Let's sack the manager Sam Collins will still be assistant, Russ Greens son will still be on the coaching staff. We'll still be relying on free transfers and loan players.

He may make a sub before 70 minutes, he may play a formation that suits the players and he may win a game, are you seriously happy with the current shite?

Everyone's fault bar Ron Ron Ron

Well there are three listed there that need to go before I set foot in the place again.

I might go back like if I can blag some freebies.

Quite fancy a golf day at wynyard.

Nah. That would just be wrong.

no it's just as much his fault.

At most clubs when things turn to shit its usually the manager that goes.

I would sack him for that godawful you ron ron

You are just being bellend here.

I'm trying my best to engage you in a proper discussion about the club as although I don't know you I'm aware that you've watched Pools for a lot of years and respect you opinion but I can't be arsed with someone who just looks like they are being deliberately inflammatory. As I've said the bloke is a lower manager, he gets plenty of things wrong but my view about the club has been consistent for the last five or six managers. What chance do they have?

Who?

Did you you someone wants him shot?

Thats a bit harsh innit?

Breeslaw does. Dead.

I am neither a 'brilliant human being' or a 'bellend'. Once the insults start your points are meaningless.

I didn't call you a bellend. You haven't made any points rather than obtruse one liners.

He needs to take a leaf out of Wadsworth book and go 4-5-1 for a bit and get us somewhere close to solid at the back.

Wadsworth played 4-5-1, away from home that was a midfield five as well at home though it was more 4-3-3 with the ball 4-5-1 without. The game we beat Brighton he played 4-6-0 It's one of the last times we've looked well drilled and organised though, again though you need the players. You could put shite like Boyce in any formation and he'd be awful.

Its been anutha sham takeover were Russ Green hides behind TMH JPMG laughing all the way to the bank.
Owned by a Dubai based Recruitment firm.
Dubia and no money just dosent add up.
YOU Done us again Russ and even had the nerve to do it with a 40% increase.
You certainly know how to look after No. 1

The next 3 games are all against teams below us in the league (2 at home) I believe so lets not start pushing the panic button just yet. Yes the form is horrendous, yes Boyce is not what we need and it doesn't help when key players get themselves long suspensions either. It's still early in the season, if we can somehow pick up a Gary Strodder and a Willie Boland type player then a top half finish beckons.

Yes we need to shape up in a lot of areas but talk of a change in manager at this stage are very silly.....

So do I need clubs for a game of golf at wynyard them. Or are they supplied.

Surely someone can tell me.

Moore needs to stop making stupid excuses, such as, " We were slow starting", " We defended badly" and not make any subs in the defence for the whole game, if he can see we are defending badly, fucking change it

If we are getting overran in midfield, do something during the bastard game and don`t whinge about when we have lost

He isn`t exactly helping himself is he

I wonder what Pools's reputation is amongst players after recent years. I know that in my industry there are companies I would work for and others that I wouldn't. I'm sure its the same in football circles. Pools have treated some players very shabbily and others receive loyalty beyond reason. It depends if your face fits I guess.

My point is simply that when players have options would a struggling club in a struggling town 'oop North' be preferably to others in more desirable areas with a better reputation? If the theory holds then Moore has had a very limited pool of talent from which to choose and most will have been rejected by other clubs.

I seen a manager the other day praising the work moore has done, saying it was a miracle that he managed to keep "that lot" up.

I think the reputation of hartlepool in the game is pretty low amongst players, managers and media.

Hard to judge from PoolsPlayer, reports and word of mouth but what worries me is that you'd expect a manager of Moore's experience to have the defence organised and playing as a unit. There might still be individual errors from players who are below standard but they should be defending as a coordinated group and everything I'm hearing suggests that they're miles away from that.

The whole defence needs scrapping and better ones brought in and that includes Harrison who has two good games followed by 8 poor ones been vastly overated since he came because of one or two good games he had. Can blame Moore all we like for bringing these players in but if he had a wage budget that could match the majority in this league I hazard a guess we wouldn't be getting torn apart every week. People are forgetting how bad we were its still a miracle that we stayed up and its a miracle we somehow won the first three league games. The blame lies once again at the feet of green and new owners who have done very little apart from change shite with more shite since they arrived.

I'm all for blaming Russ Green for any number of things, but how could be have affected the wage budget or the signings?

I'm not blaming him for the wage budget or signings that's the owners and obviously Moore who has obviously made mistakes but has had very little scope to bring quality in. What I do blame green for is bringing in a third takeover in who clearly do not have any money whatsoever to cope with a division 2 club which then inturn has an effect on wages and once again another decent managers hands being tied.

This^

If the proviso of any takeover is that Russ is kept on as CEO it surely cuts down the field of potential new owners.

The problem is Russ will only bring in a group who would agree to keep him on. We have to presume that will vastly limit which companies would be interested.

You have to wonder if these takeovers are in the best interests of HUFC or just the best interests of russ green.

What take over?

Anyone played Wynyard Golf Course before? I fancy a game and want to know what the course is like.

Few people on here get to go for free regularly. It does come with certain t's and c's like.

Surely Chief Executives don't 'bring in' people? I don't see what the Chief Exec could do if an owner wanted to sell and another individual wanted to buy. The Chief Exec can't veto anything (unless of course he's blackmailing someone?!) though this one certainly seems extremely talented at feathering his own nest.

The point is that there's no-one with any funds who wants to buy our Club and invest in it. If there were, they would buy it, whether Russ Green wanted to bring them in or not. Sorry, but time to face facts, I guess.

Well its been well documented about Russ greens efforts to sort out these takeovers. One involving a dodgy overseas deal that fell through with turner. A dodgy one back in January and now heavily involved in bringing coxall et al here. His record is pretty poor to say the least. There's plenty of clubs been taken over with owners who have ambition and money I don't believe nobody wants to own a north east football club with 4000-6000 fans obviously hard to find them I don't deny that.

But he's CEO of the year...

He can spin more silk than Rumpelstiltskin.

Which is a bit strange as we are certainly not one of the smallest clubs in this division.

We're possibly one of the most unsuccessful, but our support base is definitely enough to sustain a decent 4th tier, lower 3rd tier side.

I just don't think the footballing gods have ever had or will have any love for us.

Rewind about 10 years ago and the opposition used to say Hadtlepool can attract decent players because of the good wages they pay..

But everything isent just down to money in this division as the Accrington manager John Coleman explained on saturdays Football League Show.
" hard work and a good team spirit was his answer to why they having a good season so far "

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