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 Post subject: Luton Fallout...
PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:55 pm 
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That was appalling.

I left 10 minutes early.

We've got a lot of work to do if we aren't going to be rock bottom by Christmas.

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We couldn't finish a horny pervert if Beyonce and Shakira were necking on in front of him...

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I've not seen Carson yet, but I could put my 6 year old in goal and he wouldn't do any worse than Bartlett.

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 Post subject: Re: Luton Fallout...
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Mr Ripper wrote:
I've not seen Carson yet, but I could put my 6 year old in goal and he wouldn't do any worse than Bartlett.


You could probably tie his hands and feet together and blindfold him as well...

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 Post subject: Re: Luton Fallout...
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I though 1st half we were excellent. Defensively 2nd half was nothing short of embarrasing

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We're doing what we did last year...looking like we might actually do something for the first 45 and then utterly capitulating in the second half.

The defence was a shambles, Bartlett is nothing short of terrifying and our finishing in the final third is becoming so predictable I don't even crane my neck in expectancy of seeing a goal anymore...

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 Post subject: Re: Luton Fallout...
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We have defenders that can't, Strikers that don't, and a keeper who doesn't.


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With Dag & Red, Barnet and Crawley all to play in October, and all currently below us, this could be another winter of discontent...

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 Post subject: Re: Luton Fallout...
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To be honest, that was the most chances we've created in any game I've seen this season. Through good goal keeping and poor finishing we only put 1 away, when we could have easily had 3 or 4. Bingham is so low on confidence going through on goal right now, I just don't expect him to score. He needs one in off his arse because he gets himself into some excellent positions.

Defensively we're a fucking joke. Halliday after a promising start has gone downhill, Harrison looks half the player he as last season, Boyce is a fucking liability and Carroll is yet to show anything to me to suggest he is a good player.

Carson has to come in also when he can, Bartlett is doing his best to undo all his good work from the beginning of the season.

The team in general is massively lacking confidence. We're in a relegation fight this season if we don't bring in some defenders and our forwards don't start finishing chances.


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Look to one man who seems to have run out of ideas , remember he signed a lot of these players who don't seem to be good enough ,


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 Post subject: Re: Luton Fallout...
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Positives we created plenty of chances for a change.
Bingham missed 5 good chances.
Smith looked good a proper winger who is talented and will be an asset with more experience and game time.
But its a results buisness and we gunna be relying on two bad teams again.


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Bingham isnt going to get a goal till he scores a flooky one , he's trying too hard and thinking about it too much if he gets a chance


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 Post subject: Re: Luton Fallout...
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Rakish Bingham has missed at least 12, and that's only in games I've seen, clear cut chances mainly one on one, this season.

He's not a Striker, he's a runner.

Very very worrying.


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 Post subject: Re: Luton Fallout...
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I don't know how how he scored i think it was 9 goals for mansfield last season mostly from the bench as well


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 Post subject: Re: Luton Fallout...
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I keep hearing that Bingham just needs one to go in off his arse. Like that is actually going to make a difference. He gives us pace and tries very very hard but his finishing is appalling. Do they have shooting practice in training?

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 Post subject: Re: Luton Fallout...
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They want shooting


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He makes a huge difference to us with his pace.

People said when on loan that if we signed him we would need to get him with finishing practice because he's missing too many.


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ElvisC wrote:
Rakish Bingham has missed at least 12, and that's only in games I've seen, clear cut chances mainly one on one, this season.

He's not a Striker, he's a runner.

Very very worrying.


I disagree to a certain extent. He hit the target more than he missed it today. Their keeper saved them, against other teams they'd have gone in.

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 Post subject: Re: Luton Fallout...
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Haway Kev, what about the five he'd pulled across the face of the goal before today? He's not a striker, just hasn't got it in him. Great pace, but nowt else. A decent forward would beat a goalkeeper one on one at least 5-6 times out of those 12 chances.


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 Post subject: Re: Luton Fallout...
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So two home defeats in 4 days with a score of 1 7.

Shouldnt the only comment be

Its you ron ron.

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 Post subject: Re: Luton Fallout...
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Bartlett is great had this discussion on Tuesday, keep up lads


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Long balls down middle from Luton cause us all sorts of issues and resulted in goals, a 6ft 4 centre back who can't deal with balls played in the air anywhere near him. Defence looks chaotic

Long balls down middle by us results in Luton defender clearing or bloking forward so ball goes to keeper, which is what should happen.

Shooting by our midfield was abysmal, Woods had a great opportunity in 2nd half ball coming to him edge of box and he sliced it embarrassingly high and wide. I was thinking about how Tinkler or Miller or Humps would have dealt with that opportunity and it wouldn't have been wasted.

Free kick late in 1st half on edge of box and our centre half runs up and slices it onto the Rink roof. Is that the best we have from that situation. Shambolic

Forward has chance after chance. The first chance 15 yrds out, middle of goal and no one near him and he puts it wide. If we go 1 up after our decent start it could have been different.

And we have apparently 2 of the most qualified coaches in the league according to Ronny, however there is very little evidence of it on the pitch

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 Post subject: Re: Luton Fallout...
PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:45 pm 
Think maybe Ronnie can`t tell the difference between tactics and tic tacs!!

McNulty won every ball in the air, so what do we do?, keep fuckin punting it up to him banghead banghead banghead


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Looks like Ronnie has no faith in the players that were on bench today, left it too late to make changes.
Only crumbs of comfort were Connor Smith, why has he not played more, man of match for me, always looking to do something but didn't get the ball much 2nd half.
Thought Oates did well on the left, out-jumped defender every time but little support for the resulting ball he won.


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Woods' shooting is appalling, for a pro footballer, he's not the only one, I've never seen a guy completely fluff/scuff as many bog standard opportunities from the edge of the box. Our chance conversion rate has got to be the worst in the Football League by a country mile.
Since the home win against Newport we've now played 10, won 1, drew 2 and lost 7. Scored 7 and conceded 21.....fuppin' appalling. We are still a side lacking far too much 'League' experience. If you take Paynter out of the side the rest of the team would be lucky to have 200 league games between them.
This squad desperately lacks some experienced league players, of the Mirfin type quality, we need to go out now and get some in before it's too late,and not crocked one's, just capable journeyman who know how to read a game ffs.

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Think maybe Ronnie can`t tell the difference between tactics and tic tacs!!

McNulty won every ball in the air, so what do we do?, keep fuckin punting it up to him banghead banghead banghead


Is that to do with 'tactics' or an individuals and their decision making on the ball? A manager can't dictate that. Nearly all of those aimless lumps were by Scott Harrison I doubt that he was doing that under any sort of instruction. We played some nice stuff in the final third until the finish today in general.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:57 am 
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There was a tit sat in front of me waxing lyrical about Mcnulty, saying he had "bossed" the game. He was " marking " Rakish Bingham, who had six clear chances to score in the game, 5 of them one on ones with the keeper, after losing said McNulty in and around the box.

It was only a combination of good goalkeeping and poor shot selection that stopped Bingham getting 5 goals today, fuck all to do with the Luton defenders, who in all honesty, were fucking awful. Every bit as bad as hours in truth.


Did Paynter win a header against McNulty?, no he didn`t, the Bingham chances came from where we played to feet, FACT!


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 Post subject: Re: Luton Fallout...
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:00 am 
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monkeybutt wrote:
Think maybe Ronnie can`t tell the difference between tactics and tic tacs!!

McNulty won every ball in the air, so what do we do?, keep fuckin punting it up to him banghead banghead banghead


Is that to do with 'tactics' or an individuals and their decision making on the ball? A manager can't dictate that. Nearly all of those aimless lumps were by Scott Harrison I doubt that he was doing that under any sort of instruction. We played some nice stuff in the final third until the finish today in general.


So Harrison is ignoring the managers tactics then is he or is the instruction to lump it up to Paynter the non jumping forward?


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monkeybutt wrote:
Chip Fireball wrote:
There was a tit sat in front of me waxing lyrical about Mcnulty, saying he had "bossed" the game. He was " marking " Rakish Bingham, who had six clear chances to score in the game, 5 of them one on ones with the keeper, after losing said McNulty in and around the box.

It was only a combination of good goalkeeping and poor shot selection that stopped Bingham getting 5 goals today, fuck all to do with the Luton defenders, who in all honesty, were fucking awful. Every bit as bad as hours in truth.


Did Paynter win a header against McNulty?, no he didn`t, the Bingham chances came from where we played to feet, FACT!


Apart from the header Paynter won to set up Bingham in the opening minutes with as clear cut chance as you'd want, oh and the header for the goal.

Paynter might not win every header, he's not that tall in fairness, getting the best out of Paynter is by knocking balls into him to hold up and bring others into play.

He linked up well with Bingham, Smith and particularly Oates who I thought did well yesterday. He was involved in the build up to a chance for Woods who in a great position 20 yrds out nearly hit the scoreboard. Until we get a forward who can finish the chances created by his work and a midfield who can break forward al la Sweeney, Tinkler, Miller alot of Paynter's good work will continue to go unnoticed fans who don't appreciate the work he does.

Paynter is a long way down the list of why we are shit

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