6 game suspension for Magnay....spat at a fan when he got sent off apparently

Six match ban from the FA for apparently spitting on a Wycombe fan when he was sent off there.

Well if he did that then you can't really defend him and he deserves the ban. I'd rather get lamped than be megged on, disgusting.

Weird that we didn't even hear he'd been charged though.

Is that 6 extra or 3 plus3just served?

I agree with PJ, there is a first, about being spat on, dirty way of dealing with stuff and what makes a person do that

fucking hell. surely either there's video evidence or the officials seen it if hes been found guilty? if the officials did see it or there was video why would it take a month to come out

suspension starts after the luton game so he can play tomorrow

When I went on the website and saw this I thought are they taking the piss but when I read what he has done then its fair enough. I'd have thought it'll be an extra 6 games seen as it's a different incident to the red card. I have to say both clubs kept this quiet which I'm surprised about. You'd have thought it might have been picked up on CCTV inside the ground and will have been witnesses as well so he has really let himself down.

I just quickly had a look at El Hadji Diouf seen as he had done similar in the past and he only received a 2 game ban but was fined 2 weeks wages. This is a much longer ban but smaller fine so can't complain about that either really.

From what I can see it's a fresh 6 game ban :-/

Disgusting.

In mitigation........the bloke he spat at was wearing sandals.

It's worth pointing out though reading the statement that he is obviously denying any wrongdoing and the club are fully supporting him, so it's maybe not completely black and white.

I have a feeling If he'd have out and out spat in someones face as he left the field I'm sure this wouldn't have been the first we'd have heard of it.

We always seem to be hit hard whenever we get any of these charges.

cisse and jonny evans got a six match ban when they spat at each other

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31750913

A deserved ban if true, but he'll be missed massively.

Deliberately spitting directly at someone is a filthy and disgusting act. The question here is did he do that? is there irrefutable evidence that he did? We all know that sportsmen, and especially footballers, are prone to spitting. He has denied spitting at somebody. He probably did spit as he left the field and it may have accidentally hit somebody but to charge him with directly intending to hit someone with a gobful of spit surely has to be backed by independent witness such as a camera. The fact that he has categorically denied aiming spit at another person and is backed by the club tells me that no such evidence exists.
I think, if I was Magnay and absolutely sure of my ground, I would be outside a solicitors office first thing in the morning.
The stigma of this could be far reaching.
I'm off on a holiday now, well as soon as I find me sandals, so play nice while I'm away. Hopefully a happy ending will have occurred by the time I get back.

If he was wearing sandals he got his just desserts

The lowest of the low is how i view spitting at someone , the dirty bastard. If this 6 match ban and fine stand then the club should fine him heavily as well, no point in him playing tomorrow either , what a let down

Had no idea

Removed himself from Twitter by all accounts

Sounds like there maybe an appeal as according to BBC Tees " the ban has been set aside pending written reasons for the disciplinary panel's decision."

After the Wycombe match, a Wycombe fan on a football forum said he'd heard Magnay spat at a fan. Another had heard sat he spat towards a fan.

I disputed that he'd spat at a fan and said if it was true it would be all over the Wycombe forums, which it wasn't. Not a single mention.

It doesn't seem like an open and shut case. If it was, Pools would be condemning him.

It's a dirty act and deserving of a 6 match ban.

But I also have first hand experience of the FA disciplinary process as a teammate went through it. A team mate was sent off after a second yellow card and was accused of striking a player as he left the pitch. The referee in his initial statement to the football centre said it was self defence, to police he said he'd punched a player after being sent off (the closest to the truth) but it wasn't in self defence and to the FA he said he'd in the middle of the match he'd headbutted the guy. So we had three different statements.

The problem is the FA view headbutting as more serious than punching. If it was punching he'd have got a much lesser fine and lesser ban. Five years later he still maintains it was self defence as the guy attacked him first (something the referee put in his original statement). I was told there was CCTV evidence, we asked for this evidence and then was told there was none.

In the end he got charged by the police for common assault for a punch and charged by the FA for headbutting. All charges were dropped against him but the FA banned him from all football for 12 months for a violent unprovoked headbutt in the middle of the match (something every single player on that pitch and everyone watching would say was untrue). I'm not trying to defend my ex-team mate but the process was a total joke, a referee who'd supported him but changed his mind, three different completely contradictory statements and no actual evidence but he was punished on the one statement the referee submitted to the FA.

So based on my own experiences, the FA disciplinary committee is a farce and unless there's actual evidence I wouldn't trust them as far as I can throw them.

But if there is evidence, 6 match is justified and Magnay is a stupid stupid boy (I hope he's not and he's innocent until proven guilty WITH EVIDENCE atm)

Borrowed from ITB:

"It was claimed Magnay spat at a home supporter as he walked towards the dressing room. Video evidence shows Magnay did spit, but it was on the ground and not in the direction of the crowd.

There was no flare up or heated incident at the time of the event and no official from Wycombe –or supporter – made any complaint or reported any incident until a home fan made a claim days later."

Same with my experiences too both in a case against me and against team mates on other occasions. Referees statements are taken as fact and even if both teams back up the accused it counts for nothing. Kangaroo courts, that all they are.

Spitting is a dirty filthy habit 'unique' to footballers and scumbags who do it in public. If he is guilty well he deserves a ban. The question has been asked time and time again why they do it none of of it acceptable to me, what other sports do they openly 'gob up' in public ? It should be banned, I am sure in some places in the world you can be fined for spitting same as littering.

More suspensions to add to the injuries.
Players not disiplinned.

Players who cant take on the good training methods.
Set play stats probably the worst in the league.
Talented young players who are frozen out by loanies who no other clubs want.

Players out of position.

ITS ELISH been a Poolie
Roll on 3 o Clock.

If he is guilty I woukd sack him. As a fan last thing I want at pools is someone who spits on fans. If he punched 1 I could forgive him but to spit in the face of 1 is just unforgivable.

If he's innocent then the club should back him to the hilt and fight to clear his name

if the video evidence shows him spitting on the ground and not at a fan i dont understand how they could come to a guilty verdict. i hope he plays today, and i hope the fans reserve judgement until weve got a proper explanation/evidence. if the club and chairman are backing him, hes saying hes innocent and theres talk of an appeal, theres obviously some doubt around what actually happened.

I don't think i've seen anywhere that he spat in the face of anyone.

Sadly when you see spitting that's just what you assume. I hope he's proven innocent he has never come across as that kind of player and even the sending off was a bit harsh i thought. He will be a massive miss as well for 6 games. I don't think we have much luck in getting these kind f things overturned and can't see the FA changing their mind to be honest.

According to BBC Tees a video has gone viral re the spitting incident, any body got the link ?

Has this link that will prove his innocence been made public yet. If not then surely someone should be producing it before the ban kicks in

As I said its gone viral but I can't find it,maybe some body on here can try

IMHO leave the appeal to those that be. NOT A Kangaroo court.

Viral normally means people have seen it. Sounds like no one has.


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Carl Magnay is in fact Ronnie Pickering.

Someone from Gateshead who Magnay appears to be friends with tweeted a link the other day saying something along the lines of 'can someone please explain how this is deserving of a 6-match ban' - the video was quickly removed though

who?

Why was it removed ?

Not sure.. here is the tweet..

JJ O'Donnell ‏@JJODonnell23 Oct 3

How's a 6 Game Ban possible for this for Carl Magnay? Man in light blue jacket 'victim' doesn't even react #shocking
https://storage-ec2-44.sharefile.com/do ... ogabPFU%3d

Link just doesn't load anymore..

I was told by a mate that Magnay is sueing? sewing? suwing? whatever!......the bloke who said he spat at him. Hope its true!

Ronnie Moore has just confirmed on BBC Tees that they are NOT appealing.

This is Loughlin's account in the Echo:

"CARL MAGNAY’S six-game ban for spitting will stand, after Hartlepool United opted against appealing the Football Association’s ruling.

Pools’ defended the player at the hearing and he continues to have the club’s unequivocal backing and support.

The club on Tuesday received the written explanation from the FA commission and, after taking legal advice on the report, feel they cannot appeal the outcome. As a result, Magnay will miss the next six games and will not be able to play until November 24.

Privately the club is unhappy at the whole situation and feel that the evidence, from a single Wycombe supporter, was neither reliable or consistent enough to bring about a charge of such magnitude.

Boss Ronnie Moore said: “Carl’s ban will stand. We have the FA reason and we know why he’s been banned. We have taken legal advice on it and, unfortunately, we feel we cannot appeal it on the advice we have been given.

“If anyone had a chance to look at the footage and see what they are talking about, then it’s very harsh to get three games for a sending-off which was debatable anyway.

“Then the spitting at, or in the vicinity of supporters, you know if someone spits on you there’s a reaction – you look at the DVD and there’s no reaction.

“So it’s harsh, but we have to take it and move on.

Magnay last week deleted his long-standing Twitter account after receiving abuse on social media and the player is considering what he can do next after speaking to the Professional Footballers’ Association and taking professional advice on the matter."


Don't know where to park the outrage bus on this one - Pools have lost one of their better players for 20% of the season - our boy shouldn't have been sent off (allegedly) and shouldn't have received a spitting ban (allegedly) but there are no grounds for appeal.

Is there a video or not

Can someone pop over and check up on bresslaw. He seems to have had a personality change.

There was a video. It was widely reported on on the forums, Facebook, in the Mail and in the Northern Echo. This video purported to show he was innocent. All I am asking is where is it, and why has it not been used.

It has already been said (on this thread) that one of his mates posted the video on Twitter, and it was subsequently deleted. Maybe on legal advice or he PFA (who advised to delete his Twitter account) Pools have obviously seen it as Moore is commenting on it, Moore will be wrong though as he is the devil incarnate a very bad manager and certainly not 'you Ron Ron'.

I think the problem with things like this at League Two level is you often only have one camera in the ground so to ban someone for six games off the back of one persons word and inconclusive video evidence seems overly harsh. It's not like the Premiership were it would be shown from 14 angles including a HD slow motion meg cam. I can see why the club would not take it further though as we know we'll get nowhere with and the ban would probably be increased during the 35 seconds they took to consider any appeal.

Thanks

Can only hope that Ronnie has bollocked Magnay good and proper behind the scenes - criticizing his behaviour publicly would make a nonsense of saying he's been hard done by- and on the face of it it does seem he's no El Hadji Diouf when it comes to gobbing on people.

I'm not going again until we install a HD slow motion meg cam. Should be an option on Sky red button when they used to do player cam.

Given that they paid Parnaby and Miller a years wage last year not to do their job I'd say leave it at that.
This lad has some potential and looks like he wants to play football.

If he wasent our best player then he would of been sacked.
Not sacking him gives us a better chance of staying up.
Signing Ched Evans would give us a chance of going up.
How dare i show ambitions of wanting success!

The Season ticket renew letter was just a gimmick from Russ.

We / I am so gullable or loyal or both!