An absolute disgrace,

poolietim · **Posted:** Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:29 am

Painter isn't part of the problem for me. He is good player who holds it up well and brings others into play. First half he was good but who has he got around him with pace when Bings is not there? Couple of times 2nd half he's held the ball up looked for anyone out wide or running in behind and had fuck all to hit. Not his fault.

Fenwick looked lost, Oates was isolated, Carroll useless and nothing just nothing from midfield which was turgid. And Kudos..... Well if he's a footballer then there's still hope for me dead grandad to get a game.

Proper midfielder like that Sinclair for them and some pace up front. Smith, Paynter and Bingham need to start as a front 3.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

I dont have an problem with Oates playing, id drop Fenwick though. No idea what he offers.

Bingham has to start as soon as he is fit, pace is the key to League 2 and we have none of it when he doesnt play.

poolietim · **Posted:** Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:38 am

Oates looks decent but just not out wide in this team. Another whose abilities aren't allowed to be shown by the system and the dross around him

horden · **Posted:** Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:44 am

ElvisC wrote:

I'll grab your hands off for Mid-Table.

Ha! I nearly replied to that, but I am trying to tone down the negativity :laugh:

Mid table? I somehow doubt that, we are sliding into familiar territory, mid table seems very optimistic.

chunky1988 · **Joined:** Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:33 pm **Posts:** 1066

Smokin Joe wrote:

Probs not one or Bartletts better games but I'm not sure how you can point the finger at him rather than the 12 numpties in front of him plus the duo on the bench who appeared to be oblivious to the proceedings on the pitch and certainly unable to make a difference when their input was badly needed. If Molly Flinders had been in goal we would be looking at 5 or 6 tonight to be sure.

never once tried to say it's bartlett's fault but he isn't exempt from criticism. Not sure how the comparison to Flinders is a fair one, because I'm pretty sure Bartlett hasn't made a save to prevent a goal other than the one he's parried straight into the striker's head to score.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22676

Any choruses of 'its you ron ron ron' last night?

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:19 pm

I forgot we were playing

:dance:

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

ElvisC wrote:

I'll grab your hands off for Mid-Table.

I think anyone sensible would have at the start of the season after recent seasons. When was the last time we finished in the top half of a division? 7/8 years? A mid table finish would be something to build on, retain the decent players move a few on and improve again. Yet we win a few games at the start and players like Magnay, Bartlett, and Fenwick are superstars. Honestly some of the over rating of our players in the early weeks of the season was laughable. I thought we'd signed Lev Yashin is goal the gushing going on, on here after a few games.

Then a few defeats and some of the same players from the people 'offer nothing' and are garbage. The reality is those three as an example were all playing non league football last season, sometimes they are all probably going to look like non league footballers, some weeks they we will look like good players. It's the nature of where the club is at. We are rebuilding after an alarming slide, one which hopefully we just about got away with and survived (somehow) as a league club. We have a workmanlike squad who will have good days and bad, I think we need a couple of additions in key areas and to get one of Moores biggest signings arguable his biggest in Carson back and to get him playing with a settled back four. Last night was awful but some are acting in shock as if they've seen nothing like it in recent years, we have fairly regularly actually, we have been served up utter dross for a long time. I think those with over the top expectations and the loud minority who seem to busting for Moore to fail need to find some middle ground. Hopefully we can bounce back on Saturday let's see what the players are made of.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Chip Fireball wrote:

Jesus, sounds like I picked a good week to go abroad.

What sort of reception did Trigger get last night then ? First time back here as a manager .

He got a pretty decent reception before kick off before his team played us off the park.

PoolieTom · **Joined:** Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:30 am **Posts:** 779

Good post that PJ. It was certainly a big reality check for some of our fans who were expecting promotion after 4 games. The thing is, being in this league, your form can easily go from WWWW to LLLL. It's the reason these players are playing in this league.

Some of the abuse given out on Tuesday was ridiculous, up there with the abuse from last season. Boyce and Bates seemingly being the scapegoats where I was stood. This, despite Boyce being the only consistent defender up until Tuesday. I even heard someone say 'when is Worley back, this Boyce is fucking shit, send him back to Scunthorpe'. Short memories n tha. Bates would get abuse even if he scored a hat trick against Chelsea.

The fact is, our untouchable manager got the formation, tactics and personnel wrong from the very start, and then didn't have the awareness to change it. It was blatant after about 3 minutes that Sinclair was a step above in class, and was going to run the midfield. Yet The Messiah insisted on sticking with 4-3-3 up until the 63rd minute, allowing Sinclair as much space as he needed to pick us apart. Was our Chief Scout watching Bristol Rovers on Saturday? If he was, he didn't feed much back to his Dad, did he?

It was still way and above the performances from last season. There is creativity in there, and we do make more chances. Unfortunately, our biggest attacking outlet, our most creative midfield threat, and our most hard working midfielder were not in the starting XI. I'm sure we will see a massive improvement on Saturday if all three are back involved, regardless of the 'tactics' the boss picks.

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:20 am

PoolieTom wrote:

Good post that PJ. It was certainly a big reality check for some of our fans who were expecting promotion after 4 games. The thing is, being in this league, your form can easily go from WWWW to LLLL. It's the reason these players are playing in this league.

Some of the abuse given out on Tuesday was ridiculous, up there with the abuse from last season. Boyce and Bates seemingly being the scapegoats where I was stood. This, despite Boyce being the only consistent defender up until Tuesday. I even heard someone say 'when is Worley back, this Boyce is fucking shit, send him back to Scunthorpe'. Short memories n tha. Bates would get abuse even if he scored a hat trick against Chelsea.

The fact is, our untouchable manager got the formation, tactics and personnel wrong from the very start, and then didn't have the awareness to change it. It was blatant after about 3 minutes that Sinclair was a step above in class, and was going to run the midfield. Yet The Messiah insisted on sticking with 4-3-3 up until the 63rd minute, allowing Sinclair as much space as he needed to pick us apart. Was our Chief Scout watching Bristol Rovers on Saturday? If he was, he didn't feed much back to his Dad, did he?

It was still way and above the performances from last season. There is creativity in there, and we do make more chances. Unfortunately, our biggest attacking outlet, our most creative midfield threat, and our most hard working midfielder were not in the starting XI. I'm sure we will see a massive improvement on Saturday if all three are back involved, regardless of the 'tactics' the boss picks.

If that was way and above last season, I need to find something else to do on a Saturday/Tuesday, root canal treatment was on a par with that fugly performance!

I agree with whatthe hell did the scout bring back because that guy ran the game and somebody should have nailed him early on or marked his ass banghead

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:33 am

It never appears that we do any research on teams before we play them, it looked as if Bristol had though. We have a weakness of no width and no pace so everything Bristol done was fast and played out wide. It's not to work out team out, if Fenwick starts a game all you need to do is wind him up and he seems to bite all the time and react, i mean what was the crack at the end of the game on Tuesday? Looks like a bit of afters between him and a Bristol player.

PoolieTom · **Joined:** Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:30 am **Posts:** 779

I recall Fenwick had 2 or 3 half chances, which is way and above some of the games last season. It was still utter dogshite, don't get me wrong monkeybutt.

We have no leader on the pitch, too many quiet players. In the first half, I think it was a Bristol player who was injured so a break in play. All of their players ran to get into discussions and talk with eachother, whereas ours just stood around stretching. Paynter might be a calming influence in the dressing room, but he certainly isn't a leader on the pitch.

That kerfuffle at the end of the game started from the first minute, we had a throw in, Fenwick was walking backwards and their player stood his ground and Fenwick walked into him. For the next 10 minutes Fenwick was more bothered about trying to out-wrestle him than actually doing something with the ball. Like you say, they had certainly done their research on us. Fenwick was riled, and his focus for the rest of the game is to get one over on whoever wound him up. Happens all the time. They knew we were a slow team, all of their corners, free kicks were done at 100 mile an hour because they knew we wouldn't be organised and could exploit it. Likewise, they knew that putting the ball in or around Harrison will lead to him diving in and making a mistake, which he did countless times on Tuesday.

It's things like these that set aside a management team on the up, to one hanging around the bottom of league 2. Bournemouth aside, that was one of the best all round performances I have seen from a team in a long long time, and a lot of that was down to the tactics of the manager. I am amazed we escaped with only conceding 3 goals. Darrell clearly knows what he wants from his players, and they clearly know what he wants from them. Good luck to him.

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:36 pm

Mr Irrelevant wrote:

Any choruses of 'its you ron ron ron' last night?

No, however there was a rousing chorus of 'one Ritchie Humphreys', followed by one about 'Jeremy Corbyn

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:47 pm

Can't argue with that at all PoolieTom, Fenwick is quite an immature player and he seems to be distracted by the opponent winding him up instead of trying to score. That sort of behaviour you see week in week out on an amateur basis but he has to discipline himself and knock it on the head.

Even when Bristol were 3-0 up they still had a sense of urgency and a very impressive side. If we play like we did on Tuesday, we are fucked.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22676

Reality check needed.

Ronnie Moore has done ok-ish but he's no messiah. Last season he was believed to be capable of walking on water after keeping us up which was nonsense. Actually what kept us up was the utter implosion of Cheltenham and Tranmere. After a sequence of four wins in March after which we were second bottom, the form for the remainder of the season was DLLDLWD. Hardly loaves and fishes stuff is it but it was slightly better than the disastrous suicidal form of the aforementioned clubs.

This season has started with run of a few wins which were by consensus' 'lucky' followed by a run of poor results. At some point the manager has to stop bleating about the players and look at himself, his methods and his tactics.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22676

Sure John but there were those four games when he first took over which to be fair did happen and were won. He won those four on the bounce and had a typical new manager effect plus a batch of teams with nothing to play for experimenting supplemented the statistics. I'm not trying to get on his back but some people need to be a bit more realistic. He is not the best manager in the football league but he is a decent lower league boss. either way, I'd hold back on the Indian ink for a little while yet.

The team I have seen looks disjointed and perhaps not yet gelled together. Well they have only been together for a short period but over recent weeks they have developed a losing habit which is concerning.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Mr Irrelevant wrote:

Sure John but there were those four games when he first took over which to be fair did happen and were won. He won those four on the bounce and had a typical new manager effect plus a batch of teams with nothing to play for experimenting supplemented the statistics. I'm not trying to get on his back but some people need to be a bit more realistic. He is not the best manager in the football league but he is a decent lower league boss. either way, I'd hold back on the Indian ink for a little while yet.

The team I have seen looks disjointed and perhaps not yet gelled together. Well they have only been together for a short period but over recent weeks they have developed a losing habit which is concerning.

The crucial four game winning sequence was in mid to late March, he got the job in mid December.

We had won 2 of first 20 league games when he took charge. It was a fair turn around, it was a daft song in celebration of staying up a bit of fun I don't think anyone was taking the words literally, even Moore who was on Talksport after the last game said 'I finished 3rd bottom and I'm the best manager in the Football League' A decent lower league manager is what he is, but it's probably what Pools need now after recent seasons.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:33 pm

PJPoolie wrote:

Mr Irrelevant wrote:

Sure John but there were those four games when he first took over which to be fair did happen and were won. He won those four on the bounce and had a typical new manager effect plus a batch of teams with nothing to play for experimenting supplemented the statistics. I'm not trying to get on his back but some people need to be a bit more realistic. He is not the best manager in the football league but he is a decent lower league boss. either way, I'd hold back on the Indian ink for a little while yet.

The team I have seen looks disjointed and perhaps not yet gelled together. Well they have only been together for a short period but over recent weeks they have developed a losing habit which is concerning.

The crucial four game winning sequence was in mid to late March, he got the job in mid December.

even our 'new manager syndrome' was 3 months late, typical Pools!

horden · **Posted:** Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:00 pm

Mr Irrelevant wrote:

Reality check needed.

Ronnie Moore has done ok-ish but he's no messiah. Last season he was believed to be capable of walking on water after keeping us up which was nonsense. Actually what kept us up was the utter implosion of Cheltenham and Tranmere. After a sequence of four wins in March after which we were second bottom, the form for the remainder of the season was DLLDLWD. Hardly loaves and fishes stuff is it but it was slightly better than the disastrous suicidal form of the aforementioned clubs.

This season has started with run of a few wins which were by consensus' 'lucky' followed by a run of poor results. At some point the manager has to stop bleating about the players and look at himself, his methods and his tactics.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 9804

Ivan Ash questioned his formation of 433 on thr radio after the Bristol game.
Ronnie replied i mite have to go 442 if i can get 2 wingers in so sounds like Smith wont be getting a chance and Kudos and Eddy Abby are Niale Rodney mode signings.

Loan market closes on 25th November.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Ivan Ash questioned his formation of 433 on thr radio after the Bristol game.
Ronnie replied i mite have to go 442 if i can get 2 wingers in so sounds like Smith wont be getting a chance and Kudos and Eddy Abby are Niale Rodney mode signings.

Loan market closes on 25th November.

We played 4-4-2 for over an hour on Tuesday.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

horden wrote:

Mr Irrelevant wrote:

Reality check needed.

Ronnie Moore has done ok-ish but he's no messiah. Last season he was believed to be capable of walking on water after keeping us up which was nonsense. Actually what kept us up was the utter implosion of Cheltenham and Tranmere. After a sequence of four wins in March after which we were second bottom, the form for the remainder of the season was DLLDLWD. Hardly loaves and fishes stuff is it but it was slightly better than the disastrous suicidal form of the aforementioned clubs.

This season has started with run of a few wins which were by consensus' 'lucky' followed by a run of poor results. At some point the manager has to stop bleating about the players and look at himself, his methods and his tactics.

Interestingly though the 'lucky' consensus rarely think that we're unlucky when we lose. Did Exeter play us off the park to beat us the other week? Carlisle was a game that could have gone either way, Wycombe similar it's just the nature of this division it's highly competitive and most games could go either way and usually hinge on who is the most clinical in the final third on the day.

The only people mentioning Moore and the words messiah are people like yourself, I think most are realistic enough to realise that we aren't going to breeze through the division and that we'll some good days but we'll also have some like Tuesday night. Let's see what they are made of on Saturday. I'm realistic enough not to need a reality check, I think the majority of Pools fans are.

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:08 pm

Moore signed the players, coaches the players, picks the players, motivates the players and picks the formation, he cannot slag them off without some form of retribution, when Boyce made that cock up which led to the 2nd goal, I would have hauled his ass off, but no he hangs his head and Moore jumps up and down and Boyce doesn`t even look at him

if you pick a 3 man midfield and then complain we got offf to a slow start and were overrun in the first half hour, fucking change it earlier, make a substitution before 60 minutes, why do they wait that long when it is blatantly obvious we are being bullied and ass fucked :doh:

Bossa Nova · **Joined:** Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:51 am **Posts:** 376

We always "get off to a slow start", I've lost count of the number of home games where we spend the first 15-20 mins desperately clearing our lines and praying the opposition will keep missing chances. Both Rovers and Carlisle could easily have been 3 up in the first half hour had they been more clinical, in fact the last time I can remember us taking the game to the opposition from the off was the last time we played Brizzle and won 4-0. If we're going to play 3 in midfield then they have to be able to work their socks off and only Woods seems capable, or even willing to do that. We were outnumbered, outplayed and (criminally) outfought, in all areas of the pitch on Tuesday but especially so in midfield, and we once again waited until it was far too late to try and change it.

JohnnyMars · **Joined:** Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:24 am **Posts:** 2480

Agree entirely with previous comments - we always seem to start at a slow tempo and on the back foot. Going back a few managers we always made a point of starting the game at a fast pace. The reason is we just don't have the players to do it. All of our midfielders are pedestrian, only Magnay has emerged with any credit this season but only as a defensive player. We badly need strengthening in that area but we seem to be limited by tight purse strings unfortunately.

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad · **Posted:** Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:46 pm

Sick of reading/hearing this we need to 'man-up' crap, we are and have been for a number of years the least physical team in the lower divisions, we seem totally incapable of 'bossing' the opposition, are so easily pushed off the ball, and only have success against teams who don't employ this tactic.
On Tuesday I watched how easily the likes of Boyce and Oates were wrestled off the ball, Fenwick slipping over, he clearly doesn't have any studs in those boots of his, we didn't show urgency when we needed too on Tuesday and panicked when we did. Magnay and Woods back as well as Binghams pace will help on Saturday, but for me we need to get Worley and Duckworth back in also, sooner rather than later. Also bring in an experienced combative midfielder, if it costs us well so what, we need to spend.

horden · **Posted:** Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:40 am

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:

Sick of reading/hearing this we need to 'man-up' crap, we are and have been for a number of years the least physical team in the lower divisions, we seem totally incapable of 'bossing' the opposition, are so easily pushed off the ball, and only have success against teams who don't employ this tactic.
On Tuesday I watched how easily the likes of Boyce and Oates were wrestled off the ball, Fenwick slipping over, he clearly doesn't have any studs in those boots of his, we didn't show urgency when we needed too on Tuesday and panicked when we did. Magnay and Woods back as well as Binghams pace will help on Saturday, but for me we need to get Worley and Duckworth back in also, sooner rather than later. Also bring in an experienced combative midfielder, if it costs us well so what, we need to spend.

ElvisC · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:55 am **Posts:** 4504

I must have typed this same message for years, but it still applies...are we the ONLY team in the entire League who don't cheat? We NEVER move the ball forward on Free Kicks/Take throw-ins 10 yards from where they should be/we ALWAYS retreat the proper distance etc. Too nice. All frills and "After You , Claude".

kebab & chips · **Posted:** Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:03 am

ElvisC wrote:

I must have typed this same message for years, but it still applies...are we the ONLY team in the entire League who don't cheat? We NEVER move the ball forward on Free Kicks/Take throw-ins 10 yards from where they should be/we ALWAYS retreat the proper distance etc. Too nice. All frills and "After You , Claude".

This.I noticed a few times on Tuesday when we were involved in a tussle for the ball,our players just put thier hands up in the air not to commit a foul & let the opposition player through.

Brian Honour's Left Foot · **Posted:** Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:16 pm

ElvisC wrote:

I must have typed this same message for years, but it still applies...are we the ONLY team in the entire League who don't cheat? We NEVER move the ball forward on Free Kicks/Take throw-ins 10 yards from where they should be/we ALWAYS retreat the proper distance etc. Too nice. All frills and "After You , Claude".

Spot on Elvis! And why do we no longer recruit guys with the 'touchy feely' approach of the likes of Roy Hogan, Billy Ayre, Nobbsy and BigBadBobby Newton?

When was the last time you saw one of our guys 'hit' and you could confidently say 'XXXX will get him for that'? Darren Williams? Possibly. Monkhouse? Only if he received the kicking in the first place. Dean Emerson?

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Chip Fireball wrote:

This is the big reservation I have with Moore, and why I suspect he has spent most of his managerial career in the bottom divisions.

There's no doubt he has experience at the lower levels, has good contacts within the game, and can motivate bad players to over perform in the short term. However the game has moved on a lot in the last 15 years or so, and he sometimes looks like a bit of a dinosaur- he certainly doesn't seem to be able to react to what's happening on the pitch as quickly as some opposition managers, and you do wonder, what help if any he is getting from his management team.

Like I said the game has changed rapidly of late, once upon a time most Fourth Division managers probably didn't know too much about opposition teams and players, and got most of what they did know from a recording of a Football League highlights package the same as the rest of us.

These days you hear some managers who sound like they have spent a full day of the working week watching full game DVD's of their upcoming opposition, you can buy stats information packages on all games at this level, you even had Wycombe getting pulled the other week because Ainsworth had all of his players wearing GPS tracking devices for a game.

There's sports scientists, nutritionists, psychologists, you name it, if teams think they can get an edge doing something a bit different they will try it.

As someone said earlier, with Pools you often wonder if they have done any homework at all on the opposition. And even when it looks like they haven't, and there's an element of the game where the opposition are clearly getting an advantage over us, nobody on the Pools bench seems able to recognise the fact during a game, and then do something about it. The home game with Carlisle was probably a classic example of most people in the seats around me being able to see where it was starting to go tits up and could see what was coming, yet seemingly nobody on the Pools bench could.

As MJ rightly says, we are a bog standard team in a bog standard division, where a lot of the teams will be much of a muchness, and this is why managers earn decent coin, because quite often they will be the difference between a bog standard team being a winning bog standard team, and a losing bog standard team.

The way its looking at present we could probably finish anywhere between 3rd and 23rd, and much will depend on the managers ability to start generating some consistency from his squad. What worries me, is that after signing 13 or 14 players already this year, he still reckons he's not got the right players for key positions.

I read a brilliant article in last years 442 with the burton manager, hes at birmingham now i think and is doing well.

He was talking about the pre-game research that goes into his training sessions and his working week, every team is given an ipad, with apps that link to every team in the league, you can watch full matches, see stats, see strengths and weaknesses.

They were playing newport county and they know they would set up 3-5-2 and knew from the 65th minute the left wing back wont be running as much so when he got forward he wont get back as quick, so he made a sub just before n brought a winger on to exploit it, it worked, they scored from that side n won the game.

The way we play you'd think we'd never even heard of an ipad let alone use one for research.

JohnnyMars · **Joined:** Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:24 am **Posts:** 2480

They might have the desire (some of them anyway) but they don't have the quality. I wish we could find another Tinkler - probably the best player to have pulled on a Pools shirt in the last 30 years. He was a player who had the ability to dictate the tempo of the game, could put tackles in, score goals and also had a head on his shoulders.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

That's my point about people banging on about formations. We need a proper central midfielder, a Mark Tinkler type of player, I know they don't grow on trees but it's precisely what we are missing. It's the weakest area of the team even though individually we have some tidy footballers. A prime example is Nicky Featherstone technically with the ball a very tidy player but he annoyed me on Tuesday night, we were getting played off the park and it was all happening around him, you'd expect somebody who plays in his position and is his type of player to at least get stuck into a couple of tackles and show a bit of desire. We're soft but it's not about being a thug and booting people it's about get a foothold in the game and getting back on the ball. At least we'll have Woods back tomorrow who does play like that.

klinger · **Joined:** Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:27 pm **Posts:** 1589

I think the problem with Bates and Featherstone is that they're just too slow to be confident of going to ground in a tackle.

On Tuesday, within a couple of minutes of coming on, Magnay had put in better challenges than the others did all night.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

klinger wrote:

I think the problem with Bates and Featherstone is that they're just too slow to be confident of going to ground in a tackle.

On Tuesday, within a couple of minutes of coming on, Magnay had put in better challenges than the others did all night.

Yes he was the only one to get within spitting distance bbolt

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:08 am

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

Just wow.

Words fail me

Serious question, do people actually use the phrase 'Wow, just wow' in normal conversation?, its seems a little twattish to me

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:23 pm

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

Just wow.

Words fail me

Serious question, do people actually use the phrase 'Wow, just wow' in normal conversation?, its seems a little twattish to me

Only a little

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 9804

Hope this post subject dosent continue after the game or will it be AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE (part two).?

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:46 pm

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Hope this post subject dosent continue after the game or will it be AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE (part two).?

I think pitchforks should be handed out before the match we must drive Moore and Magnay outa town

An absolute disgrace,

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