Just say fuckin no, can he not see we cannot play this formation, how many more games are we going to start and give them a foothold in the game, first 20 minutes was painful and then we end up chasing shadows

What formation would you play with the players we have?

6-8-6

4-3-3 needs one central striker with two wingers alongside. It also needs midfielders who can pass and tackle.

Currently we don't have that.

We play better 4-4-2, do you think we should continue 4-3-3???

And that is the problem. Franks and compton might have been useful

Do we?

We don't have the players for anything because we don't have wingers. The only thing you could argue we have players for us a 442 narrow diamond, but that would expose us down wings and Moore hates full backs attacking

Football teams need that fuck formations, our problems stem from midfield not systems are they magically going to go away by changing the formation? We are desperate for a proper central midfielder.

What was I watching tonight then? As we did play a decent chunk of the game 4-4-2. When was the last time we regularly played 4-4-2 with any success?

Yes

Switched after 25 minutes to 4-4-2, problem is Fenwick was piss poor, featherweight was piss poor which leaves a 4-2-2!

Were Duckworth fit, we could have him in front of Halliday on one side, And Carroll in front of Dan Jones on the other. Not ideal, but it would at least give a bit more shape to the side.

We've seen time and time again duckworth is far better as a full back and imagine as soon as he's fit, Halliday will go back.

We need proper wingers, and have done for years yet never go out and sign any. Moore has left the squad unbalanced and unable to play anything resembling a formation without players out of position

With what we have at the moment I am now inclined to say the best formation to suit is would be 4 - 3 - 1 - 2

Carson
Halliday - Harrison - Worley - Carroll
Woods - Magnay - featherstone
Walker
Bingham - Paynter

Most teams in the world now play a variation of 433 or 451. Very few teams play with 2 out and out wingers. Can only assume those demanding 442 because "we can't play anything else" havnt seen a game since the mid 90's

That formation may well be the best bet for now.

442 would leave us worse off than we are now, 433 isn't working either.

I'd play Walker there as you put him (even though he's been shite whenever he's started for a long while) and say 'right you've got one more fucking chance to justify your own hype, I'll give you a 2/3 starts here or its curtains'.

I'd put Magnay in next to Harrison and put Hawkins where you've got Magnay but a good post anyway.

4 3 3 needs two of the front three to be capable of playing wide, all three to be capable of swapping positions when needed, and at least the wide two being hard working enough to drop and support the midfield if it is getting over run. When the ball goes wide one of the midfielders has to get forward and support the main striker while the others hold back. Defence has to have a strong centre because the full backs will need to push up to avoid the three in midfield being stretched too wide.

It takes intelligence, organisation and energy to play it well and judging by what people are saying on here, match commentaries and reports we were lacking in all three last night. Even more worrying we seem to have been lacking in all three even in some of the games we've won.

the squad just still isn't very good

we somehow managed to win the 1st 3 games without playing really well, and then only stopped the rot against a truly horrendous yeovil side on saturday.

bristol rovers showed from the off last night how quick football can be played and basically we not one of our players had a clue where they were or what to do to counter this. paynter is good at hold up but as we don't have people providing balls into him from wide regular, he seems wasted. Bingham was missed massively due to his pace being an outlet and think it's safe to say kudus won't be much of an influence.

last night really was that bad that is was a mirror image of a large chunk of last season, and that has to be the worry.

unsure how many chances people want to keep giving brad walker, he's been terrible apart from a 4/5 game spell at back end of last season for around season and a half now.

Ronnie Moore is an old fashioned football manager who tactics are old fashioned.
After last night it proves that the teams from the Coference are half decent, I think we would have really struggled in that division thankfully we survived but need to improve big style or will end up there.

Ronnie Moore is an old fashioned football manager who tactics are old fashioned.
After last night it proves that the teams from the Coference are half decent, I think we would have really struggled in that division thankfully we survived but need to improve big style or will end up there.

Ronnie Moore is an old fashioned football manager who tactics are old fashioned.
After last night it proves that the teams from the Coference are half decent, I think we would have really struggled in that division thankfully we survived but need to improve big style or will end up there.

Ronnie Moore is an old fashioned football manager who tactics are old fashioned.
After last night it proves that the teams from the Coference are half decent, I think we would have really struggled in that division thankfully we survived but need to improve big style or will end up there.

It doesn't really does it, they finished second and got 90 odd points, hardly your typical week in week out conference team. Funnily enough I was talking to a few Bristol Rovers fans before the match last night and they were on about the game they lost 4-0 here towards the back end of the season before last. They were woeful that day, so for that team to be turned around to get 90+ points shows that Trigger has done a very good job, and that its probably as not as good as some make out. I was well impressed with the football they played last night though.

I presume your only disagreeing with the comment because you saw my name but it wasnt my quote.

That would be a bit pathetic wouldn't it?

I'm disagreeing for the reasons I've have given in the post, which are pretty fair I'd say.

Christ this place gets worse.

Yes it would.

FFS grow up Tree.

Comedy gold this