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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33540051

These employers just take the biscuit, don't they?

Many of them currently pay wages so low that the State (ie us) have to subsidise their employees so that they can afford to live. The radical thought that the employers themselves might instead have to fork out, from their profits, is something many of them seem to think goes against the laws of the universe.


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 Post subject: Re: Minimum Wage
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Wait, wait, wait!

There's a rabbit way somewhere - before the election we had people on this site saying they would vote for the Tories as they would ensure their businesses would make a profit and they were the only economical and viable option.

Yet here we are facing an increase in unemployment figures for the second month running......

I'm sure Jizz and his amazing mind of knowledge will be able to shed light on what is really going on - no way have Dodgy Dave and George Osbourne duped the electorate......


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It won't be long before workhouses are reinstated if it carries on like this.

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I agree with chip tried getting somewhere to eat tomorrow all places I like are fully booked down here. I walk around st ives on weekend every bar and restaraunte are full same as Cambridge during the week when at work I went for a coffee the other day at a plAce in city centre I like. It was full so I stood outside nattering to a mate having a smoke and a coffee.

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Are we not all citizens of the same country? Why should there be this divide?

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The north of England is as much the same country as the south of England as Scotland is.

i'd like to see a movement for the north to separate from southern England. We're holding each other back.

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Loid Haw-Haw of Sussex wrote:
"Get on yer bike" was what Tebitt told us,i took his advice. .i now enjoy truffles or even sushi for dinner.

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If I might just indulge in a little reductio ad absurdum, a bloke I knew a few years back with a get on your bike mentality used to argue that the people of Bangalesh who are subject to serial natural disasters only had themselves to blame for not upping sticks.

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Jiz wrote:
The north of England is as much the same country as the south of England as Scotland is.

i'd like to see a movement for the north to separate from southern England. We're holding each other back.



I agree Jizz - nothing would please me more than seeing Scotland, Wales Ireland become fully independent, followed closely by the North of England - and by full independence that would mean closed borders and freedom to choose who to deal with.


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KeithNobbsBigToe wrote:
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The north of England is as much the same country as the south of England as Scotland is.

i'd like to see a movement for the north to separate from southern England. We're holding each other back.



I agree Jizz - nothing would please me more than seeing Scotland, Wales Ireland become fully independent, followed closely by the North of England - and by full independence that would mean closed borders and freedom to choose who to deal with.

Yes, please!!!

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Chip Fireball wrote:
Should it come to pass, I expect the likes of Manchester would suddenly find themselves in the South of the country.

There would also be an expectation that The North still contribute towards all of the infrastructure improvements in The South, and use all of the service industries based in the South. Probably still expect us to do all the graft down there an all. Oh, and subsidise all their shit loss making farmers.

To be honest if everyone from The North left London and moved back up here The South would be on its knees within about a fortnight. It would be full of public schoolboy puffs whats never done a days graft in its life. To be honest we could probably invade it and take over within about 12 months, cant see them putting up much of a fight.

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Who gets Cornwall? They have quite an important place in English industrial relations history.

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 Post subject: Re: Minimum Wage
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Oh bugger, I gave the wrong link. How that happened I cannot say.
There's a bit inside that link that shows an employer crying into his beer because for the first time in his life he's going to have to pay people decent wages, which is what I was trying to draw attention to.

Still, I'm all for declaring war on Southern England, so some good has come out of this.


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 Post subject: Re: Minimum Wage
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This is a very entertaining thread.

Are Magic Mushrooms standard issue in Hartlepool?

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Jiz wrote:
This is a very entertaining thread.

Are Magic Mushrooms standard issue in Hartlepool?

:lol:


No but we have all had a good classical education. This is why we are so at ease with handling the essentials of economic theory. And why you are not :cool:


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You're shitting me, yeah?

Lefties trying to educate the center-right on economic policy. This thread just keeps getting more and more bizarre :?

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 Post subject: Re: Minimum Wage
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You're shitting me, yeah?

Lefties trying to educate the center-right on economic policy. This thread just keeps getting more and more bizarre :?


A little while ago you could have enrolled at your local Adult Education Centre, to brush up on Keynes. Sadly, the Government has withdrawn funding for Adult Education Centres.


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grabec wrote:
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Still, I'm all for declaring war on Southern England, so some good has come out of this.


Best keep it on hold till next Thursday, the migrants are going on strike down here..

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 45970.html


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grabec wrote:
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You're shitting me, yeah?

Lefties trying to educate the center-right on economic policy. This thread just keeps getting more and more bizarre :?


A little while ago you could have enrolled at your local Adult Education Centre, to brush up on Keynes. Sadly, the Government has withdrawn funding for Adult Education Centres.


Never heard of an AEC.

Shouldn't adults already be educated before or during the early years of their career, augmented with CPD activities in later years?

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Jiz wrote:
You're shitting me, yeah?

Lefties trying to educate the center-right on economic policy. This thread just keeps getting more and more bizarre :?


Are you a holding centre-right or an attacking centre-right?.........or a U.S style center?

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Jiz wrote:
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You're shitting me, yeah?

Lefties trying to educate the center-right on economic policy. This thread just keeps getting more and more bizarre :?


A little while ago you could have enrolled at your local Adult Education Centre, to brush up on Keynes. Sadly, the Government has withdrawn funding for Adult Education Centres.


Never heard of an AEC.

Shouldn't adults already be educated before or during the early years of their career, augmented with CPD activities in later years?



Jizz - what is it you actually do - if you don't mind sharing - just so I can form an idea of what cpd activities you may need access too.


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Chip Fireball wrote:
Jiz wrote:
This is a very entertaining thread.

Are Magic Mushrooms standard issue in Hartlepool?

:lol:


Dividing the country in two was your fucking idea in the first place. You been banging on about it for months.

Not sure what part of killing folk and taking their land off them you struggling with, rich people been doing it for centuries. sctatchinghead

The country's already divided.

Rich people killing folk and stealing their land for centuries? Has this happened in your lifetime? Your father's? Your grandfather's? Your great-grandfather's?

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Montpoolier wrote:
Who gets Cornwall? They have quite an important place in English industrial relations history.


Oh when it all kicks off I would imagine areas like Cornwall will throw their lot in with us, along with the Welsh. As will the industrialised areas of The Midlands.

You mean like they did in May when swathes of the south-west turned Labour red?

Oh . . .

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Jiz wrote:
Chip Fireball wrote:
Jiz wrote:
This is a very entertaining thread.

Are Magic Mushrooms standard issue in Hartlepool?

:lol:


Dividing the country in two was your fucking idea in the first place. You been banging on about it for months.

Not sure what part of killing folk and taking their land off them you struggling with, rich people been doing it for centuries. sctatchinghead

The country's already divided.

Rich people killing folk and stealing their land for centuries? Has this happened in your lifetime? Your father's? Your grandfather's? Your great-grandfather's?



The country may already be divided, unfortunately there is nothing stopping you returning north - once we put a physical border with machine gun posts in place, we'll be fine...


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KeithNobbsBigToe wrote:
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Dividing the country in two was your fucking idea in the first place. You been banging on about it for months.

Not sure what part of killing folk and taking their land off them you struggling with, rich people been doing it for centuries. sctatchinghead

The country's already divided.

Rich people killing folk and stealing their land for centuries? Has this happened in your lifetime? Your father's? Your grandfather's? Your great-grandfather's?



The country may already be divided, unfortunately there is nothing stopping you returning north - once we put a physical border with machine gun posts in place, we'll be fine...

Returning north? I've been to France more times than I've been to the north! I have no desire to visit 'oop north'.

I'd be very glad for you Wildlings to build a wall. It would save us in the south having to do it clappp

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I'm on minimum wage.

Minimum Wage Tory?

I think those Magic Mushrooms of yours are starting to wear off on to me!

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Returning north? I've been to France more times than I've been to the north! I have no desire to visit 'oop north'.

I'd be very glad for you Wildlings to build a wall. It would save us in the south having to do it clappp


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He is the local idiot

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I would cut off your head, Dwarf, if it stood but a little higher from the ground


Now from the ban and you saying that I am certain you know me

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Jiz wrote:
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Jiz wrote:
You're shitting me, yeah?

Lefties trying to educate the center-right on economic policy. This thread just keeps getting more and more bizarre :?


A little while ago you could have enrolled at your local Adult Education Centre, to brush up on Keynes. Sadly, the Government has withdrawn funding for Adult Education Centres.


Never heard of an AEC.

Shouldn't adults already be educated before or during the early years of their career, augmented with CPD activities in later years?


Oh dear, that's very feeble, Jiz, and totally unconvincing. Anyone would think you'd never heard of Keynes.
Let me spell it out. You support the right-wing economic principles of the current government. Keynesian theory offers a theoretical alternative. Tell us your centre-right argument against Keynesian theory.


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Of course, I've heard of Keynesian Economics and I'm not necessarily against it with regards to state spending in a recession but, in that situation, the starting point in a recession has to be that the state is not already a huge behemoth as it was after Labour exited, ergo, it's not relevant here.

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Of course, I've heard of Keynesian Economics and I'm not necessarily against it with regards to state spending in a recession but, in that situation, the starting point in a recession has to be that the state is not already a huge behemoth as it was after Labour exited, ergo, it's not relevant here.


If you're not 'necessarily against' Keynesian economics, I put it to you that everything you've written in the above thread is the opposite of what you actually think.


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grabec wrote:
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Of course, I've heard of Keynesian Economics and I'm not necessarily against it with regards to state spending in a recession but, in that situation, the starting point in a recession has to be that the state is not already a huge behemoth as it was after Labour exited, ergo, it's not relevant here.


If you're not 'necessarily against' Keynesian economics, I put it to you that everything you've written in the above thread is the opposite of what you actually think.

Eh? Are you really attaching Keynesian Economics to socialism? Really?

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Returning north? I've been to France more times than I've been to the north! I have no desire to visit 'oop north'.

I'd be very glad for you Wildlings to build a wall. It would save us in the south having to do it clappp


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Ms Grabby, I put it to you, with respect, that the JizMeister is an attention seeking fuckbucket. Trying to prise his 'opinions and thoughts' will be difficult as they vary with which ever is the strongest troll-wind. Why he's persists on a Pools message board is wierd, but I guess it excites him a little. To summerise, an attention seeking, non-poools affiliated fuckbucket.


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Ms Grabby, I put it to you, with respect, that the JizMeister is an attention seeking fuckbucket. Trying to prise his 'opinions and thoughts' will be difficult as they vary with which ever is the strongest genius-wind. Why he's persists on a Pools message board is wierd, but I guess it excites him a little. To summerise, an attention seeking, non-poools affiliated fuckbucket.

I got tumescent just reading that post.

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I don't recall mentioning your name. Ever.

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I very much doubt it.

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Chip Fireball wrote:
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Dividing the country in two was your fucking idea in the first place. You been banging on about it for months.
Not sure what part of killing folk and taking their land off them you struggling with, rich people been doing it for centuries. sctatchinghead

The country's already divided.

Rich people killing folk and stealing their land for centuries? Has this happened in your lifetime?


Yes, happens all the time, e.g. Oil. Nigeria. Etc.

Sorry, I hadn't realised Nigeria was the context of your comments.

I can't believe I failed to pick up on that stpid :roll:

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MFR wrote:
Ms Grabby, I put it to you, with respect, that the JizMeister is an attention seeking fuckbucket. Trying to prise his 'opinions and thoughts' will be difficult as they vary with which ever is the strongest genius-wind. Why he's persists on a Pools message board is wierd, but I guess it excites him a little. To summerise, an attention seeking, non-poools affiliated fuckbucket.


MFR, I know you're right. But I've no real experience of dealing with 'attention seeking fuckbuckets' and so am on a learning curve. Neither my kid nor any of her friends ever went through the stage of opting to appear witless in order to get attention. Thinking about it, this is probably because they were taught joined-up writing at the usual age.

When Corbyn gets in of course, Jiz will be first against the wall. It's only a matter of time......


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Some of you really do talk via your sphincters.

As if I comment for attention or change my view :lol:

As I've said before, Lefties are completely unable to debate (because what they believe in does not stand up to scrutiny). An example being the delicious irony of you suggesting Keynesian Economics is a mandate for socialism :roll:

The left are good at attempting to smear and, err, that's it.

Thinking Corbyn will become PM? :lol: :lol: :lol: Surely, not even you believe that has any possibility of happening (this doubles up as an idiot test).

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