Those in talks about contracts

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

How long do they get to either agree to the reduced terms or leave?

Been over a week now aint it?

Tex Ritter · **Joined:** Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:47 pm **Posts:** 943

What their contract expires. That's the end of June I think.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Tex Ritter wrote:

What their contract expires. That's the end of June I think.

Im pretty certain the club will tell them they have to make their mind up by a certain time so we know what areas we need to bring in and how much we have to spend etc.

Coffin Dodger · **Joined:** Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:50 am **Posts:** 189

I know for a fact that one of players 'in talks' over a new deal has never been offered a deal and was released by a phone call the day before the retained list was published!

So i suppose its a case of when Russ and Ken stop playing games and tell us fans the truth!! Can see it being a while!

Brian Honour's Left Foot · **Posted:** Mon May 18, 2015 1:55 pm

[quote="Coffin Dodger"]I know for a fact that one of players 'in talks' over a new deal has never been offered a deal and was released by a phone call the day before the retained list was published!

Any clues?????

attackontitan · **Joined:** Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:37 am **Posts:** 269

I'm guessing Flinders.

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2011 4:25 pm **Posts:** 4198

I'm guessing his 'fact' isn't a FACT.

Unless anybody has a plausible reason why someone who had been released would be left off the released list?

I'm guessing Belinda the barmaid got given the job and messed up. Stick to pulling pints luv!

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father wrote:

I'm guessing his 'fact' isn't a FACT.

Unless anybody has a plausible reason why someone who had been released would be left off the released list?

So Ken and Russ can say "well we tried to keep him" etc

loyal blue · **Joined:** Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:53 pm **Posts:** 1912

Ronnie moore mentioned last week at his Q&A that the players who had been offered new deals were thinking them over and discussing with their agent. SO basically saying they can sign or look for another club. But he did also say, they have been told that the club wont forever and the players had been given a deadline.

Coffin Dodger · **Joined:** Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:50 am **Posts:** 189

Quote="Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father"]I'm guessing his 'fact' isn't a FACT.

Unless anybody has a plausible reason why someone who had been released would be left off the released list?

I'm guessing Belinda the barmaid got given the job and messed up. Stick to pulling pints luv![/quote]

If i knew how to upload pics on here i could prove my fact is a fact, and anyone who'd believe Ken & Russ over a a great servant to the club and a loyal fan needs their head looking at!!

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Coffin Dodger wrote:

quote="Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father"]I'm guessing his 'fact' isn't a FACT.

Unless anybody has a plausible reason why someone who had been released would be left off the released list?

I'm guessing Belinda the barmaid got given the job and messed up. Stick to pulling pints luv!

If i knew how to upload pics on here i could prove my fact is a fact, and anyone who'd believe Ken & Russ over a a great servant to the club and a loyal fan needs their head looking at!![/quote]

www.tinypic.com is a quick way of doing iphone pics etc

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2011 4:25 pm **Posts:** 4198

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father wrote:

I'm guessing his 'fact' isn't a FACT.

Unless anybody has a plausible reason why someone who had been released would be left off the released list?

So Ken and Russ can say "well we tried to keep him" etc

Because there would be an outcry if Flinders was released?

There'd be more of an outcry on here if he'd been given a new 2 year deal on the same money!

Coffin Dodger · **Joined:** Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:50 am **Posts:** 189

Think the point here is no matter wether you think he should be offered a deal or not.....the Club is once again bare face lying to the people that support, fund and care about the club!!

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2011 4:25 pm **Posts:** 4198

Hey, if you've got a picture that proves a rumour I'd love to see it too.

Though if he was released by a phone call I'm struggling to understand what the picture would show? Flinders on the end of a phone?

Somebody help him out - Please!

Coffin Dodger · **Joined:** Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:50 am **Posts:** 189

I dont need helping out, like i said if you want to believe our amazingly well ran trustworthy club then crack on!!

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4483

The club has told bare face lies to the fans in the past. This has been proved unless Phil brown is a liar too.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

Chip Fireball wrote:

I know Coffin Dodger, and I don't think he's the sort of lad that would make shit up for the sake of it. He gets to a lot of the away games as well as the home ones so could be classed as a bit of a diehard.

This is the reason you should all be just a little concerned.

ptbap · **Posted:** Mon May 18, 2015 3:48 pm

Well as much as I wouldn't trust the club hierarchy, I wouldn't put my life in the hands of Phil Brown either!!

stupoolie · **Posted:** Mon May 18, 2015 3:53 pm

I have seen said message and know Coffin Dodger pretty well. Can confirm what he is saying is 100% true, No reason for the daft lad to make it up

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4483

No reason to lie though did he got himself a nice little job at Southend on wages Ronnie Moore could only dream of at pools. Players also apparently giving up playing football then a week or two later signing for a conference club. Ior have a recent history of lying to the club or fabricating the truth.

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Mon May 18, 2015 3:54 pm

Here you are, here's the proof.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

I use that phone at work...have I been released?!

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2011 4:25 pm **Posts:** 4198

Chip Fireball wrote:

I know Coffin Dodger, and I don't think he's the sort of lad that would make shit up for the sake of it. He gets to a lot of the away games as well as the home ones so could be classed as a bit of a diehard.

I've got no reason to doubt that, but the rumour in question sounds a bit far-fetched to me and suddenly it seems there isn't any photographic evidence after all...

ITB reckon Flinders has turned down the offer of a reduced terms contract and has gone - that's a rumour I have no problem crediting.

I guess we all believe the rumours we want to believe, don't we?

Coffin Dodger · **Joined:** Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:50 am **Posts:** 189

Check your PM MDKMF!

returnofaido · **Posted:** Mon May 18, 2015 4:04 pm

is that like FMFDM ?

Lord_of_Stranton · **Joined:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:48 pm **Posts:** 1852

Mr. Montpoolier clappp

MicksMan · **Joined:** Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:37 am **Posts:** 234

Would love to know what this picture is... Flinders waving goodbye?

billygoatblue · **Joined:** Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:30 am **Posts:** 606

Montpoolier wrote:

Here you are, here's the proof.

Nah don't believe, I always thought Russ did the dear john calls and those digits just ain't pudgy enough.

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2011 4:25 pm **Posts:** 4198

Coffin Dodger wrote:

Check your PM MDKMF!

Ok, have done. Definitely a sauce very close to one of the interested parties.

Can imagine that the club captain would be gutted to discover he wasn't really in Ronnie's plans - whether it was no offer or a reduced offer.

Can't imagine why Scott would go along with the charade of other people pretending there's something on the table if he was already a free agent - why wouldn't he or his agent just put out a statement saying the club have got their facts wrong?

billygoatblue · **Joined:** Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:30 am **Posts:** 606

To be fair flinders isn't even mentioned by name on the announced retained list, just says discussions are still ongoing with other first team players including Bates, Franks and Austin. Why would pools need to deceive the fans into presuming flinders was part of those discussions?

alybaba · **Posted:** Mon May 18, 2015 4:42 pm

Hush money like i got offered more redundo payment not to talk to the press about it.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Makes you wonder who else has been released but they told us they declined terms etc

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Mon May 18, 2015 6:30 pm

Fucking hell. Hush money?

You can tell it's pre-season.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

regardless of what has actually happened here, would be too much to ask Green to at least once, have a clean, concise and clear retained list?

yloop · **Posted:** Mon May 18, 2015 7:11 pm

Maybe it would be detrimental to season ticket sales to tell anyone the captain was being released with no other senior keepers on the books?

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

yloop wrote:

Maybe it would be detrimental to season ticket sales to tell anyone the captain was being released with no other senior keepers on the books?

Surely thats assuming lots of Pools fans are really dumb?

thetownendfaithful · **Posted:** Mon May 18, 2015 7:13 pm

We've still got Rafferty haven't we he was alright

Oh no he pursued a career outside of football

HonestPoolie · **Joined:** Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:46 pm **Posts:** 663

Last year there was no deadline and Poole in particular look a very long to turn it down, it was the day we returned to pre-season training I believe so at least that won't be happening again.

Obviously haven't seen this photo but Ronnie had them in from the Tuesday onwards to tell them of his plans individually and for one who lives here I'm not sure why it would be done by phone call.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Mon May 18, 2015 7:28 pm

yloop wrote:

Maybe it would be detrimental to season ticket sales to tell anyone the captain was being released with no other senior keepers on the books?

i doubt it. I'm one of Flinders biggest advocates but i wouldn't be overly bothered if he went based on the last 18 month.

yloop · **Posted:** Mon May 18, 2015 7:59 pm

misterb2001 wrote:

yloop wrote:

Maybe it would be detrimental to season ticket sales to tell anyone the captain was being released with no other senior keepers on the books?

i doubt it. I'm one of Flinders biggest advocates but i wouldn't be overly bothered if he went based on the last 18 month.

I refer you to The Colonel's above comment

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