Ronnie is quoted in the Fail as follows about the retained list:"We had to try and get the big hitters out so we can use the finance to strengthen for next season."

Sounds straightforward enough - but there are doubters on here worrying that the playing budget will be cut again. I'm struggling to see any actual reason why that would happen - FFP rules and all.

Income from match attendances and sales - maybe hard to work out with the ticket offers, but can't be far away from last year?

Income from sale of Baldwin & James - phased over several years.

Income from Sponsorship - about the same?

Income from the Football League and TV - up if anything?

Not that it'll matter if you think IOR are robbers (as well as clueless, which is a given) but are there any plausible reasons why the playing budget won't be roughly the same as this season ?

The election result.

Duh.

Well their record over the last few seasons has hardly been inspiring...

But surely Hodcroft et al won't invest in something they want shot of?

^ This

Don't let logic get in the way of a belly tickle..

The CCTV needs doing so fuck yer playing budget

I also expect to see and hear ronnoes optimism go as as well as time goes on. Hope I am wrong but its what has happened every year for years now.

As it stands now we only got 13 players on the books mostly youngsters who will be on low wages.
4 more players have been offered reduced terms.
So there should be no reason why Ronnie cant get the 8/9 new players he wants.



Ior are good at doing u turns so we will probably have the smallest squad in the league and end up in another relegation battle.

The quality of the squad has been getting worse each year for some time now, so why would IOR break the trend this year.

FFP does not stipulate a set level of investment in the squad, just an upper limit. Even over the last couple of seasons when we have been well within FFP (due to Baldwin and James fees) we have been told no monies are available due the vagaries of FFP (due to payments in instalments). Where the bulk of this money has been used I don't know but as IOR have the begging bowl out for the pitch (30K) and are moaning about buying some CCTV equipment it must have all been used up.

A bit of extra income from the new tv deal will just be sucked up by this financial black hole that IOR keep painting pools as. The only positive is that I believe Ronnie will get more bang for his buck than Cooper did last year, due to his contacts and a lot of positive media coverage of the great escape.

If we get a few injuries outside of the Loan Transfer Window then we basical
ly going to be struggling to get a matchday squad out!






Ior did say they had budgeted for us to go down.
I hope they remember we actually stayed up!

I don't dispute that Cooper wasted most of his kitty on "3 ageing old crocks" but they must have been on decent wedge otherwise Ronnie wouldn't be talking about using the finance saved on their wages (and Harewood's) for team strengthening.

Don't dispute either that IOR have been running the squad down for years (helped by some crap signings from successive managers, starting with Mick Wadsworth and the likes of Solano, Nish and Luscombe) but they bucked their ideas up a bit for Ronnie when they saw the trap door to the Conference beckoning.

Did they really buck their ideas up?

Moore got a couple of loanees in that clearly helped save us, but werent they just replacements for others that went away?

Like has been said a million times its Moore that deserves the credit, not IOR.

But there again, I know there are some that see IOR as some sort of gods. This is the most alarming thing of all.

I seem to remember last year we had miller and woods on trial for ages and didnt sign them until the eve of the season, i gathered this was for cost cutting so we didnt have to pay them over the summer.

I hope we do not adopt this approach again this summer.

Well Colonel Dibble, I think it's very difficult to see IOR as anything other than a deeply flawed organisation headed by a crank, and Moore deserves 99.5% of the credit for keeping Pools up.

But at Ronnie's prompting IOR did find the cash for some decent loan signings on proper wages - for example getting Hugill in when they were already wasting money on Marvin Morgan.

I struggle to agree with your point of view because I don't live in a world that is all 100% black or 100% white. Must be nice...

I'm holding out hope that IOR will back Ronnie on the basis that unlike the previous two seasons, we've ended the season promisingly with a manager all of the fans are behind.

I fully expect the men in white coats to knock on in the morning.

No chance we were paying Marvin Morgan's wages he was training with the youth team.

He makes enough money off hats n daft jackets he won't have cared


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Try that one on Ronnie Moore the next time he holds a fan's forum. He likes a laugh.

Just out of interest, when was the last time before Moore/Morgan that a manager or anyone at Pools for that matter admitted to a recruitment fuck-up?

And then, as an added bonus, wasted very little time correcting his mistake?


I find the auto-correct feature quite encouraging.

Sorry for presuming to criticize Mick Wadsworth Chip. I liked him too as manager, but his signings weren't that great.

Love this as well, how many managers persist in selecting a player just because they brought them in. With Ronnie every player is selected on merit alone.

If you can show me pools actively paid his wages and it wasn't thst Plymouth wanted shot I'll gladly eat my hat if Paddy Ashdown doesn't get there first.

I am sure he does make enough off fashion stuff he does but why wouldn't Pools send him back.

IORare claiming they appointed Moore now so I don't believe anything they say. Even Simo has lost touch with reality with the whole 5 people kick it out complaints stuff. Not to mention publishing a pro Tory propaganda on the website.

Sooner the fans trust can take these things up with the club the better.

Why would Paddy Ashdown want to eat your hat?

If Plymouth were paying his wages we'd have terminated his loan as soon as Moore decided he wasn't in his plans.

I asked this before, but does no one have any slight doubts about Moore if planks like Morgan can come in?

Colonel we all make mistakes. Even Ronnie.

Your answering your own questions. We didn't send him back cos we agreed to pay at least some of his wages till the end of his loan. Hence Moores comments about the mistake and Ken being ok with it.

I am not having a dig.

Just pointing out the style of player Morgan is.

a similar style to Hugill and Bird, albeit a lazier, much shitter version.

How many people would welcome Hugill & Bird back? Dibble, we need that style of player, we are in League 2.

I would suggest War chest is a little bit of an exaggeration, perhaps War jewellery box is prevailant here

Is it one of those pink ones with a ballerina and musical box?

It has a secret compartment to hide administrative costs and the ballerina is missing its wind up key.

I think when there was talk of us signing Morgan on loan that i think I read Plymouth wanted to offload him to free up his wage for fair play purpaces

It's like Doctor Who's Tardis, it is 20% bigger on the inside to account for vat

I said somewhere else, Morgan was a panic signing, we were desperate, he was available, shit happens, thankfully we didn't have to persevere with him and we could bring somebody else in. Hardly a reason to doubt the manager that one, he's put his hands up on numerous occasions, previous managers would have stuck with Morgan and flogged a dead horse!!

Moore worked him out, dumped him, replaced him, jobs a good 'un.

It's not bigger on the inside it's smaller on the outside. It has to be to land in London scrapyards.

Not sure how that translates to the IOR war chest like.

These negotiations that are ongoing with some of our squad.

If someone was on say $1000 a week to do a job, were at the end of their career and then offered $500 a week for another season. What sort of motivation are they likely to show. I reckon pretty little.

Dump them.

I've went for money box, it was either that or change purse, but that sounds a little bit gay.

Are there no pictures of Ronnie's coin purse on the interweb? There's pictures of everything else!

Just did a google and this is what Ronnie's coin purse looks like, although it could be a load of bullocks.

Can we see enough money for bingham in here?

Copper Jar?!?!

Betting account?

Hedge fund.
(if only)