Carlisle Thread locked ?

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7418

Why was the Carlisle Fancy Thread locked ?

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7418

Thanks for the reply. I have emailed the club voicing my concerns about the Bob Marley Fancy Dress day at Carlisle, I don't expect a reply.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 9531

You wont get a reply we just customers to them.
We will only become treated as fans if n when new owners come in.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7418

Well I got a reply !

Thank you for your email.

The Club has no input on the final day fancy dress theme and plays no part in the organisation.

We do not have any pre-discussions with those who organise the day out and we do not have the authority to control what people or supporters choose to dress in for any football match.

We will always publish uncensored news about the Club and supporters on our website but this does not necessarily represent our views.

We thank you for getting in touch with your concerns but if you have any further comments or questions we would suggest that you direct them towards the organisers of this event.

Best regards
For and on behalf of
Hartlepool United FC

Sarah Rowntree

-----Original Message-----
From: Annie Whitelock
Sent: 20 April 2015 09:20
To: Sarah Rowntree
Subject: FW: Fancy Dress, Carlisle

Annie Whitelock

Sent: 19 April 2015 09:12
To: Annie Whitelock
Subject: Fancy Dress, Carlisle

Sir/Madam,
The club should withdraw its support and contact the organisers of the proposed Fancy Dress for Carlisle, Bob Marley. It's a 'ticking time bomb' and the ante racism groups will have 'field day' it is also in 'bad taste' as the club currently have 4 black players on the books, please have a rethink as Hartlepool United could be in the news but for the wrong reasons,

Sarah Rowntree
General Accounts, Admin and Matchday Coordinator
Email: mailto:Sarah.Rowntree@hartlepoolunited.co.uk
Direct: 01429 272 584 (e

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37436

'Nowt to do with us ' would have sufficed.

yloop · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:30 am

"We will always publish uncensored news about the Club and supporters on our website but this does not necessarily represent our views."

Where was their coverage of the Trust meetings then?

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

What other uncensored news have they ever published?

that line is a load of bollox.

Plus i dont the official site is the place for news like this as any news on the official site is presumed official and linked to the club.

billygoatblue · **Joined:** Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:30 am **Posts:** 606

It certainly doesn't read like just reporting a bit of news and if the F.A do take the view this is racist then it will be club that will face the actions. Hence a bit surprised that they seem to be washing their hands of this matter.

Thecorvus · **Joined:** Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:14 pm **Posts:** 43

Are you allowed to say 4 black players when playing the racist cards? Should that not of been Four Coloured player?

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7418

Thecorvus wrote:

Are you allowed to say 4 black players when playing the racist cards? Should that not of been Four Coloured player?

Nope black is polically correct, some one once told me in certain countries don't ask for black coffee ask for coffee with out cream !

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7418

There is a post on another website, one of our black players has tweeted about the fancy dress, judging by the tweet he ain't happy about it! Time to reconsider the theme for me.

Thecorvus · **Joined:** Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:14 pm **Posts:** 43

Why ain't he happy about it? Doesn't he like Bob Marley?

Thecorvus · **Joined:** Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:14 pm **Posts:** 43

Can't see anything on any of the current black players Twitter, other than Marvin Morgan retweeting a photo.

Thecorvus · **Joined:** Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:14 pm **Posts:** 43

Why wasn't this brought up Two years ago with the Penguins then?

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

Same as smurfs... Although papa was a bit peeved about the heskeylator episode

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:59 pm

Because we didn't have any penguins playing for us back then.

Thecorvus · **Joined:** Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:14 pm **Posts:** 43

We had a few jokers and still do now.

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

How about everyone "whites up" and goes as his ghost?

yloop · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:24 pm

yloop wrote:

"We will always publish uncensored news about the Club and supporters on our website but this does not necessarily represent our views."

Where was their coverage of the Trust meetings then?

Had a message from Pools so in the interest of fairness I'll reply to this, Pools will publish details of the trust and meetings providing they're sent over

PooliePaul0211 · **Joined:** Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:59 pm **Posts:** 49

'A ticking time bomb', Jamie1952?? For goodness sake, get a grip of yourself it's a few fans getting dressed up. Getting dressed up as Bob Marley is in no way derogatory to anyone of black origin; on the contrary, it is recognition of a legend. Would the pc brigade be up in arms about anyone of African descent donning whiteface getting dressed up as Elvis? (Elvis Presley not Elvis C) I very much doubt it. I'm off to throw my Coming to America DVD in the bin.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7418

PooliePaul0211 wrote:

'A ticking time bomb', Jamie1952?? For goodness sake, get a grip of yourself it's a few fans getting dressed up. Getting dressed up as Bob Marley is in no way derogatory to anyone of black origin; on the contrary, it is recognition of a legend. Would the pc brigade be up in arms about anyone of African descent donning whiteface getting dressed up as Elvis? (Elvis Presley not Elvis C) I very much doubt it. I'm off to throw my Coming to America DVD in the bin.

Morgan's none too happy about !! You can call some one jock, taffy, and numerous names I can't quote on the board but when it's about black people the odds are stacked against you with all the political correct people. Fortunately round this area racism has never been a problem so let's keep that way and forget about the Bob Marley thing.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12363

Pools may have washed their hands of it but does anyone know the views of Carlisle United and the local Police.
People could be turned away, coaches could be stopped outside Carlisle, People could be arrested for alleged Racism.
I think the organisers need to think again or at least check with the powers that be in Carlisle.

Thecorvus · **Joined:** Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:14 pm **Posts:** 43

Two seconds let me grab my popcorn this could be another 6 pager

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22665

It's not my fight because I can't go because of a family commitment but may I just say this;

If people go in banana suits they are looking for trouble and will find it.
If people go blacked up like a minstrel they are looking for trouble and will find it.
If people go singing in a Jamaican accent in a Jim Davidson stylee they are looking for trouble and will find it.

If they go in hats, shirts and trousers in Jamaican colours they'll probably be alright but some Jamaicans might get upset.

In my view this choice is fraught with danger but hopefully there is no grief. Given thats its in Carlisle theres a good chance there won't be but that wouldn't be the case elsewhere in the country.

billygoatblue · **Joined:** Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:30 am **Posts:** 606

For those who intend blacking up at Carlisle.
against:
http://www.theguardian.com/education/20 ... ack-racism
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebri ... stume.html
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scott ... ut-5195684
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... -christmas
for:
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/national/rac ... acks-do-it

Thecorvus · **Joined:** Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:14 pm **Posts:** 43

5 lads in Pools strips might get jumped on too, but 200 fans as Bob Marley well maybe Carlisle fans might think twice before starting anything 'all for one and one for all'

Then again all this maybe hot air and nobody will give a toss after this weekend when we stay up anyway.

Thecorvus · **Joined:** Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:14 pm **Posts:** 43

The worlds gone mad Billygoatblue

yloop · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:02 pm

billygoatblue wrote:

For those who intend blacking up at Carlisle.
against:
http://www.theguardian.com/education/20 ... ack-racism
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebri ... stume.html
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scott ... ut-5195684
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... -christmas
for:
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/national/rac ... acks-do-it

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The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

Since when was Bob Marley a legend amonst the folk of Hartlepool?

That a new one on me.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37436

Thecorvus wrote:

Two seconds let me grab my popcorn this could be another 6 pager

Well you're certainly doing your best to breathe life into this particular frozen chicken of a topic.

Thecorvus · **Joined:** Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:14 pm **Posts:** 43

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