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 Post subject: 1 in 4 Eastern European immigrants plans to stay in Britain
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:35 am 
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Based on estimates of migrant numbers, the report indicates that around 160,000 citizens of the former Eastern Bloc will settle for good - the equivalent of the population of Swindon.

The total is likely to climb higher still because 600 migrants arrive every day.

Labour had predicted that only 13,000 would come from Eastern Europe each year. Ministers also claimed the incomers would stay for only a few months or years.

James Clappison, a Tory MP on Westminster's home affairs committee, said: "While the Eastern Europeans are hardworking people who make a contribution, all of this immigration adds to the pressure on housing and public services.

"It shows a lack of planning on the part of the Government. It has failed to properly research and plan for the immigration that has taken place.

"They are simply making it up as they go along."

The Joseph Rowntree team questioned migrants six to eight months after Britain's borders were thrown open to Eastern Europe in 2004.

Only 6 per cent said they had originally intended to stay permanently. But many others changed their minds after arrival taking the number of would-be settlers to 25 per cent, or one in four.

Of those who were intending to leave, 90 per cent said they expected to return to the UK for further work.

The Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia and Slovenia joined the EU in May 2004, giving their citizens free access to Britain. Romania and Bulgaria joined in January.

The report makes clear that some migrants intend to make as much cash as possible and take it out of the country.

One Polish hospitality worker, aged 25, said: "I will never feel at home in this country. I hope to squeeze as much as possible out of this country and then dump it like an unloved mistress."

Researchers found that up to quarter of immigrants send their savings home as "remittances".

The study also found that many of the Eastern Europeans were living here illegally before May 2004.

They then acquired legal status overnight, with no attempt made to remove them for past immigration offences.

The researchers from Oxford and Sussex universities said that only a third of those interviewed knew how to register with a doctor.

Almost half were sharing a room with someone other than a partner.

Council leaders in migrant towns say up to 40 Poles live in three-bedroom houses, sleeping in bunk beds in shifts.

Figures released last week revealed that 640,000 Eastern Europeans, most of them Poles, have registered to work in Britain.

The true total is likely to be even higher as, in most cases, the Government keeps no record of the self-employed, spouses or children. Some estimates put the figure at 800,000.

Even based on the lower figure of 640,000, the Joseph Rowntree research would suggest that around 160,000 will settle in Britain for good.

The Government insists that migrants make a positive contribution to the economy while working.

But critics say this picture changes if the migrants retire here - with four out of five becoming a net drain on the country's finances.

The amount a worker needs to earn to make a positive contribution over the course of their life is £27,000 a year.

This is the equivalent of paying-7,600 a year in income tax and other taxation and would cover the costs of healthcare and other public services into retirement.

Only 20 per cent of migrants fall into this category, according to Migrationwatch UK which made the calculations.

Sir Andrew Green, the thinktank's chairman, said: "The social costs of the present massive levels of immigration, including their impact on infrastructure and public services, far outweigh any possible benefit."

Source: Daily Mail

More hard evidence that Eastern European immigration is not benefiting the British people and it should be stopped


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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:45 am 
Migration, not immigration.

You have a right to settle anywhere in the European Economic Area Mr Bruno, to live and work, and you can do what you want with the money you earn there. Moving from Hartlepool to Stockton is now the same as moving from Lodz to Lancaster, from Pest to Peterborough, from Tallin to Tadcaster.

They have this same right. You can't stop it without Britain leaving the EEC and I wouldn't hold your breath.

By the way, there's an 's' in Polish.......... :roll:


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Mr Bruno, there is a spare place going in Britain that I'm not using any more. I don't mind a Pole taking it.

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:04 pm 
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Mr Bruno, there is a spare place going in Britain that I'm not using any more. I don't mind a Pole taking it.


Make that two. I might sell our house to a family of Rumanian gyppo's. It's got two bedrooms and a garage, could get maybe 48 of them in there in total...... :roll: :laugh: :laugh:

Obviously all using bunk beds in shifts while they're out raping and pillaging..... :wink: :grin:


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Looking at your avatarMr. Bruno, I would say your hero is definately the son of an immigrant.
Dimi & Joel were not made unwelcome either.


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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:28 pm 
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Looking at your avatarMr. Bruno, I would say your hero is definately the son of an immigrant.
Dimi & Joel were not made unwelcome either.


Welcome to the board Mr Block. Popeye....quality!! :wink: :wink:

And a traditional F00K Off to your goodself!! :grin: :grin: :grin:


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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 3:09 pm 
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Shit stirring nonsense.Mr Bruno,you really must be about as bright as midnight to take any notice of those 'facts',even if James Clappison, a Tory MP does have a 'S' in his name


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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 3:01 am 
No-one ever says anything about the nice things Hitler did........ :roll: :roll:


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chip fireball wrote:
real daily mail headline from 8th jan 1934 " hurrah for the blackshirts!" in another editorial in support of edward moseley.

throughout the 30's the mail was the only british daily to take a consistently pro-nazi line, the owner lord rothemere was a big fan of hitler and visited him numerous times in the 30's.

the papers chief correspondent ward price described hitler as a " human pleasnat personality" :roll:

the paper described rumours of the concentration camps as " gross and reckless accusations " made by " troublesome minorities."

on the german invasion of czechoslovakia rothemere wrote personally by telegram to hitler stating " i salute your excellencys star which rises higher and higher."

some immigrants the daily mail didnt question in the survey :

lakshmi mittal, britains wealthiest man, worth about 15 billion. an immigrant. not currently signing on.

roman abramovitch, worth about 8 billion. immigrant. not on incapacity benefits.

hans rausing, immigrant, worth 5 billion. not living in a council house.

i could go on but you get my drift.


you forgot this lot of 'immigrants'

The House of Windsor, a branch of the Saxe-Coburg and Gotha line of the House of Wettin, is the current Royal House of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and each of the other Commonwealth Realms. In 1916, during World War I, anti-German feeling among the people resulted in the Royal Family exchanging use of all of their German titles and house names for English-sounding versions.

The German name had come via Queen Victoria's marriage to Prince Albert, son of Duke Ernst I of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, in February 1840. Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, however, was not the Prince Consort's personal surname, but the territory ruled by his family; his house, and possibly his surname, was Wettin.

Thus, the name Wettin was replaced with Windsor, which also became the name of the Royal House through an Order-in-Council of King George V.

However, the Order only referred to all descendants of Queen Victoria in the male line, but not necessarily by female descendants. In April 1952, after her accession, Queen Elizabeth II ended confusion over the dynastic name when she declared to the Privy Council her “Will and Pleasure that I and My children shall be styled and known as the House and Family of Windsor, and that my descendants who marry and their descendants, shall bear the name of Windsor.” This comes into conflict with Germanic house laws, which state that all of her children are of the house of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg through their father, Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh.

Later, on February 8, 1960, the Queen issued another Order-in-Council, confirming that she and her four children will be known as the House and Family of Windsor, and that her other male-line descendants (except those who are "HRH" and a Prince or Princess) will take the name "Mountbatten-Windsor".

Any future monarch could change the dynasty name if he or she chose to do so. Another Order-in-Council would override those of George V and Elizabeth. For example, if the Prince of Wales accedes to the throne, he could change the royal house to "Mountbatten" in honour of his father, and of his uncle Louis Mountbatten. Mountbatten is the English translation of "Battenberg" and so a name of German origin as well.


King George V's reign began in 1910 under the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha and ended in 1936. Though the Irish Free State left the United Kingdom in 1922, the actual name of the kingdom was not changed until 1927, when he also became King of Ireland. In the decades after 1927, the monarch also became the king or queen of many Commonwealth Realms, including, Australia, Canada, the Irish Free State, New Zealand, Union of South Africa, etc. Previously they had been monarchs in, not of, those states, through a shared Crown of the British Empire. After 1927, it became a shared monarch wearing multiple crowns. Until 1947, the king was also styled Emperor of India.

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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:13 am 
Cornelius Atweasle wrote:
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No-one ever says anything about the nice things Hitler did........ :roll: :roll:


He was nice to his mam and dad. Things just got a little bit out of hand, I guess.

Which one of us cannot admit to making mistakes in our lives?


A nation of Beetle drivers cannot be wrong.... :wink:


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