Come on then PJ. Faced with an enemy who wants death, just what would you suggest?
Think back in history. Not far, just WW2. How did the war with Japan end? Was that not barbaric? Had the Japanese not shown they preferred death to giving up?
They were forced to realise that the other side was not going to give in no matter what the price.
Was the situation the same? Yes of course it was.
And if you do not like that as a comparison I can show you plenty more through the ages of war.
By the way, the Japanese hierarchy knew as soon as they got the results from Pearl Harbour that they could not win, but put the world through 3 years of hell before they were forced to stop.

I'd suggest you take your medication and go to sleep.

Yep. You don't change. Sarcasm plenty. When pushed for any content no answer.

You are comparing a terrorist organisation that numbers ten of thousands to the Second World War that had a human cost of nearly 50,000,000 people.

Mind if you had your way and started filming people being killed and wrapping them up like pigs in blankets then World War Three wouldn't be far away and ISIS would grow into millions overnight. You might as well make yourself head on recruitment after those thoughts. The scary thing is you think sarcasm is unwarranted as you are having a sensible conversation....

I have another idea we could remove womens burkas and get gadgies eating bacon sandwiches to chase them round to the Benny Hill music, that will show them.

Hahahahahaha.
There really is no substance at all to you is there.
Come on bright spark 50 MILLION the human cost of WW2 ????

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population_estimates.

You work out the % of the earths population that died, according to you.

You really should try to check things before you spout your garbage.

Lets try 1 closer to home for you.... War criminals The Falklands war.... Only 1 person could have been tried for war crimes in that conflict. (It did not happen because only the losers get tried as war criminals). Maggie Thatcher. Most certainly guilty for the sinking of the Belgrano. According to International law it was outside the conflict area and sailing away.
Was she right to sink it? Hell yes. It could have turned and attacked causing us many more losses. Her reasoning... You started it. Pay the price.
If you, or any of your lilly livered chums can think of a way of stopping these animals from what they are doing, speak up. I am sure we will all listen. If all you can manage is "We are supposed to be civilised" I suggest you go join the Neville Chamberlain appreciation society.

Does anyone have any idea what the fuck he's going on about here?

Especially the bit about the death toll in World War Two.

Yep, that's right try to deflect.
As per usual, you but in with sarcasm and pathetic comment then when you are pulled on it you backslide and ask for help.
If you do not understand about the toll of WW2 just re-read your own garbage.

But to help you.... "to the Second World War that had a human cost of nearly 50,000,000 people."

Your words not mine.

This reminds me of a time I tried to talk to a rambeling old Yank about war and foreign policy in North Orlando

There's a war on in North Orlando? , news to me

Haha he was just an old drunk yank who thought the world could be resolved by the power of a gun as he had right to bare arms. His point of if they come in my back yard I will blow them Arabs away. At the same time addressing this to a guy who was clearly phillipino. Ergo rambelings of a trigger happy boffoon

Compo, I most certainly am not an advocate of the gun is law. What I do most certainly believe, as obviously does the poster, is that these people can not be reasoned with.
If you have a rogue dog you put it down. The analogy is similar.
Talk first, second, third, and fourth, But at some point you have to realise that talking will not work with some people. Sad, but true.

The point is that this has been going on since the dark ages difference is they have media new weapons etc it will never be solved same as Jerusalem and Palestine as long as religion is removed from the world

At least you understand the point being made,(unlike PJ).
I would be interested to hear any thoughts of a solution you may have. Certainly religion,(all denominations and creeds), can not be removed.

Almost 50,000,000 people died in WW2 that is a fact, are you disputing this?

Your original point was that barbarism should be countered by worse barbarism. I haven't missed any point, that response would be fucking mental. Absolutely certifiably crazy. If you don't understand why then God help you.

Ted can't take his medication unless someone unstraps his hands for him.

I recall taking a school visit to Eden Camp Museum many years ago. An elderly ex-Luftwaffe pilot began chatting to some of the students (aged 12/13) about his war experiences. "I destroyed tventy Soviet tanks in my time on zer Rushehn front..." The students clapped him shaking their heads with amazement at his exploits. When he left us I quietly reminded them that the Russians had been on our side and that he was the enemy at that time. "He looks harmless sir".
"He isn't in his Stuka lad!"

This.

No risk to you.............are you fucking stupid???????????

So explain please.

If you want to take out insurance against being killed by ISIS I will be happy to oblige.

Do you genuinely believe ISIS are a realistic risk any of us living in the North of England right now? I have no immediate plans to travel to Syria or Iran, I'll probably go to Magaluf instead.

As for random acts of terrorism from UK based nut jobs, they could happen at any time in any place. If you let the fear of that consume your thoughts then you'll never leave the house and you are letting them win. You are still more likely to get hit by a bus.

PJ, you seem somewhat confused. It was in fact YOU who gave the figure of 50 million victims in WW2 not me. I want to know where you plucked that figure from!!!!!
Stop twisting and answer the question.
I have already pasted your comment once, do I need do it again for you?
Once again, you have no substance whatsoever.

Nelly,The idea of cutting media coverage would be a start, but Al Jazeera is a Muslim run media outlet, who enjoy glorifying the atrocities. How do you propose stopping them? As for limiting social media, Not possible. Internet can not be removed from the world now.

Aye ok.....I give in...you're right. Isis are no threat whatever. They don't want to take over. No of course they don't.

Or live in USA they love all that scaremongering there. They are as much threat to us as any other religious fundamentalist nutjob be it Christian Muslim or any other. Stop westerners going there will stop the hostages and no media will mean no outlet simple really.

Are Isis a threat to the North of England? Actually, quite possibly yes.
From 1963 to the mid 70's the North Yorkshire Moors was without doubt the most dangerous place on earth to live.
That threat has diminished, but not by much.
PJ, don't bother trying to find a comment. I doubt you have the brain to work out why it was so dangerous.

Oh do fuck off.

Compo, same question to you mate. How do you propose stopping Al Jazeera?
I do agree that the USA are a major threat to world peace.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
http://www.secondworldwarhistory.com/wo ... istics.asp
http://warchronicle.com/numbers/WWII/deaths.htm
http://worldwar2-database.blogspot.co.u ... lties.html
http://worldwar2.org.uk/how-many-people ... orld-war-2

Are just the first five answers Google plucked from nowhere most suggest 50 million is a conservative estimate and some suggest as high as 80 million.

Why because I said Isis is as much a threat as any other? There is a rule in criminal forensics be wary of things around you and people you know. Most crimes are committed by people that know you. I don't think these Isis blokes know much about Hartlepool

Yes I do they pose more problems than answers

Btw al zarerra do a lot of good footy streaming

Since the terror attacks in London in 2005 who many people have been killed by radical Islamist violence in the UK? It's one isn't it? One death directly linked to it in ten years. I apologise for not living in a hysterical state of permanent fear. That Bird fella in Cumbria killed as many people as them loops in Paris the other week.

I'm not saying they are not a threat that need dealing with, with force but ISIS don't exist here they do in Iran and Syria and other parts of the Middle East the innocent people who live there are the ones who should rightfully be fearful of them. Let's drop a nuclear missile on them though eh?

Lets start with anyone can post on Wiki. No-one with any historical knowledge would give it much credence.
Just 1 point. The China-Japan war started in 37, and was not part of WW2 when the vast majority died when Japan invaded. The major losses came in the first 6 months, thus 2 years before WW2 "phoney" war, and nearly 3 before fighting actually started.

Al Jazeera went to great pains to show Ken Bagley being beheaded. I would say that was an atrocity.
Perhaps some of you should try watching Aljazeera's Islamic stations instead of the watered down version they run to the UK.
"Freetvall" is a very easy contact method.

Is this bloke even real?

Holocaust denial is a crime isn't this bloke is dismissing the entire War.

The major losses came in the first six months?? What about the Eastern Front!??

I would say all other networks had also blood on their hands the bbc more than mist

Jesus! Ted could put a glass eye to sleep

I've given 5 (it could have been 500) examples of figures of World War two casualties, you have provided me World Population estimates (what does that tell us about WW2 deaths!?) from.... anyone can quote Wikipedia!!!!

Can you not read at all. I said that your first link include those lost in the China Japan war which preceded WW2 by some nearly 3 years, and that the major losses in that war were in the first 6 months, ie 2 years before WW2
You really are 1 thick fool. Yet again, tryint to twist what was said.

Why is this even relevant though, some estimates are as many as 80 million and is the single most significant event in the history of the World in terms of loss of human life. It was a situation that bares no comparison whatsoever to this conflict against a terrorist organisation so your point about the atom bomb has no place in this thread, which is the point I was trying to put across and why I mentioned a figure at accentuate that point.

I'll take thick compared to not all there.

I bet Ted thinks the EDL are a decent bunch of lads who are at least doing something to stop these muslamic Ray guns as well

I just don't know how I'll sleep tonight now derwent has pointed out the dangers of Isis. Certainly not going out tomorrow

Don't go the the North Yorkshire Moors whatever you do!!!

ISIS have taken over it's a no go zone just like Birmingham!

When is Mickey muslamic Rae gun signing away?

Headland Keith??

Ted is running around his asylum now armed with a 'pig skin' in case he bags one to upload onto youtube.

(He actually is)

Bandit country

Leave him Chip....he is entertaining as fuck!!!!

Poor PJ, he took it on himself to look after our favourite falaraki fryer

Below the belt, Joe old chum. When he says that then you can jump on him. Argue the points he is making not the ones you think he MIGHT make FFS.