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 Post subject: Article from Northern echo- ken hodcroft the pools saviour?
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I had a little sicky burp when I read that

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I had a little sicky burp when I read that



Same.

"The costs were not a concern to Hodcroft"

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Someones trying to stay in Ken's good books to get any exclusives.


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It's an interesting balanced article for me.

I think Hodcroft does have an affinity to the club and does have the clubs best interests at heart. He has been chairman for 17 years so it would difficult to argue against that.

It also backs up the talk that these TMH dodge pots had links to people that you wouldn't want anywhere near our club, so we could look back at this episode on years to come as a lucky escape.


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 Post subject: Re: Article from Northern echo- ken hodcroft the pools savio
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Shows Loughlin is a reader of The Bunker to get his info then reveals his articles as 'exclusives'


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Whilst I agree we have probably dodged a bullet from TMH, more concerning is the fact that Green and Hodcroft didn't even do the most basic of internet searches to uncover these dodgy links before entering a takeover agreement with them. Just remember if TMH had everything in place by the 31st of January deadline the deal would have been completed and Ken wouldn't have been able to ride in as the saviour.


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He totally neglects to mention the fact that a club employee found TMH and continues in his current role or the fact Pools are no further forward now under IOR who will invest nothing.

I cant see how Hodcroft comes out of this the peoples champion


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Or alternatively what would you expect IOR to say? Actually we didn't sell because TMH wouldn't agree to some financial clauses about future business etc allegedly... As usual we have one side of a story presented by a friendly media guy too close to the club and green


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bigdish wrote:
Shows Loughlin is a reader of The Bunker to get his info then reveals his articles as 'exclusives'


It's a comment piece where does it mention its an exclusive apart from nowhere?


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Was it on here Stelling said they asked him to be president? I never saw that thread?

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He totally neglects to mention the fact that a club employee found TMH and continues in his current role or the fact Pools are no further forward now under IOR who will invest nothing.

I cant see how Hodcroft comes out of this the peoples champion


I don't think anyone comes out of this the people's champion or even looking good but it could certainly be a case of better the devil you know.


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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
Was it on here Stelling said they asked him to be president? I never saw that thread?


Yes it's somewhere on the last thread he started


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 Post subject: Re: Article from Northern echo- ken hodcroft the pools savio
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Nothing surprising about this article. No club without IOR remember. No doubt loughlins mates will be along soon to defend him.


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 Post subject: Re: Article from Northern echo- ken hodcroft the pools savio
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Never got past the headline as I startkng throwing up.

Fuck off Ken hodcroft and fuck off Russ green. Your to blame for all of this, nobody else but the pair of you.

Green put them onto tmh and green was a director of said company which speaks volumes. If they wernt legit then why is this clown still employed by ior. It stinks.

As for hodcroft and ior we needed backing massively in the window and they waited till the day after to say no. Quite a coincidence that. They can want to build bridges all they like but they are taking us down and anyone who praises them is just as bad as them in my opinion.

Of course the fans should get behind the team but getting behind these 2 is a waste of time.

Non league football for the 1st time in our history, 2 players sold for over a million and yet fuck all spent on the team barring an undisclosed fee for Harrison who was getting released at the end of the season anyways. That fee will have struggled to hit 10k. We needed serious backing but they deserted us.

I'm sick of reading about Paul Murray being a mistake. He's been a scapegoat for others, he wanted players and wasn't backed. The team Colin cooper assembled was shite but Murray seems to have taken the blame. He wanted players in but was given others. Ior like many before him wouldnt back him.

Green and hodcroft couldn't give a fuck about pools, this has been there to see for a long long time.

Hopefully people ain't blinkered regarding these programme notes. He's made his bed but sadly its the fans who are lying in it and There's no covers, duvet or a even a mattress. It's horrific why they have done to us and the day the pair of these go will be like a promotion to me


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You are aware of the concept of a comment piece in a newspaper and also what question marks mean??

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 Post subject: Re: Article from Northern echo- ken hodcroft the pools savio
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Like I said i didn't get past the headline. Can you not read?? ?? ??


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Like I said i didn't get past the headline. Can you not read?? ?? ??


Seems strange therefore that you say you're sick of reading about Paul Murray being a mistake.

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Cringeworthy article.


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PJ been in for his annual belly tickle i see


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Like I said i didn't get past the headline. Can you not read?? ?? ??


Seems strange therefore that you say you're sick of reading about Paul Murray being a mistake.


:laugh:

Yes I'm being 'belly tickled'

Christ some of th juvenile shite on various forums in recent weeks has been embarrassing. I have said on here and stand by that I believe Russ Greens position at the club is untenable. His belly tickling must be getting worse...


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If I won the Euromillions and if it was a significant amount I would take over Pools in a flash.
The first thing I'd do would be to ban Loughlin and keep him as far away from the club as I could.
No amount of arse licking or comment from arse lickers would dissuade me from that.

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Tax Paying Poolie wrote:
Ritchies birthmark wrote:
Like I said i didn't get past the headline. Can you not read?? ?? ??


Seems strange therefore that you say you're sick of reading about Paul Murray being a mistake.


The article was being discussed on the other forum. I didn't need to read it to know Paul Murray was being blamed.


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Ritchies birthmark wrote:
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Ritchies birthmark wrote:
Like I said i didn't get past the headline. Can you not read?? ?? ??


Seems strange therefore that you say you're sick of reading about Paul Murray being a mistake.


The article was being discussed on the other forum. I didn't need to read it to know Paul Murray was being blamed.


Righty ho!

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Righty ho!


Loughlin's mates out in force, scared they will have to pay petrol money to away games if he gets barred out!


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Righty ho!


Loughlin's mates out in force, scared they will have to pay petrol money to away games if he gets barred out!


:laugh: :laugh:

I've been to about two away games in three years

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Ken is the saviour because he's doing what?

Him and Russ Green got us into this mess, they tried to offload it and it all fell through.
They have drained the funds out of the club for a few years now.
They have sold the best players and replaced them with carthorses.
They have alienated the fans with their 'no further comment' statements.
The staff have left in a steady trickle.
Players have been openly criticising the regime and laughable training before RM arrived.
Jesus, even some club men have asked questions.
Now they have decided that the people who they arranged to sell the club to are dodgy so there has been a change of heart. Ever heard of due diligence? Maybe work out they're dodgy before you arrange the marching bands and chuckling in the background of an interview with the new chairman.

Basically, you've stabbed me in the heart and now I'm supposed to thank you for pulling the knife out and putting it back in the drawer.

Sorry, but this is an embarrassment of an article in the best Russ tickle belly tradition and Nick, if you're going to pinch quotes from this site, at least have the courtesy to acknowledge where it came from.


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Ken is the saviour because he's doing what?

Him and Russ Green got us into this mess, they tried to offload it and it all fell through.
They have drained the funds out of the club for a few years now.
They have sold the best players and replaced them with carthorses.
They have alienated the fans with their 'no further comment' statements.
The staff have left in a steady trickle.
Players have been openly criticising the regime and laughable training before RM arrived.
Jesus, even some club men have asked questions.
Now they have decided that the people who they arranged to sell the club to are dodgy so there has been a change of heart. Ever heard of due diligence? Maybe work out they're dodgy before you arrange the marching bands and chuckling in the background of an interview with the new chairman.

Basically, you've stabbed me in the heart and now I'm supposed to thank you for pulling the knife out and putting it back in the drawer.

Sorry, but this is an embarrassment of an article in the best Russ tickle belly tradition and Nick, if you're going to pinch quotes from this site, at least have the courtesy to acknowledge where it came from.

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The point he is trying to put across is that TMH were dodgy and we've dodged a bullet. More to do with that than anything about Hodcroft. People are over reacting and missing the point. Obviously it raises other questions like what about Russ who jumped into bed with these people, big questions in fact but I fail see what people are getting in a major flap about here yes the headline is provocative but is posed as a question not a statement. Read about Swindon and read about Hereford and you can work out exactly what is being alluded to.


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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
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I had a little sicky burp when I read that



Same.

"The costs were not a concern to Hodcroft"

:roll: :roll:


It is without question and 100% true that blocking the takeover at the stage he did will have cost him money.


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PJPoolie wrote:
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I had a little sicky burp when I read that



Same.

"The costs were not a concern to Hodcroft"

:roll: :roll:


It is without question and 100% true that blocking the takeover at the stage he did will have cost him money.



Im not disputing that sctatchinghead

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So what was the purpose of your post?


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So what was the purpose of your post?



I thought it would be fairly obvious.

He spent money cancelling/arranging the takeover etc when a 5 minute google would have shown it was a bad idea all along so why were the wheels put in motion to begin with?

Lovely to know that spending money isnt a concern to Hodcroft when he wont spend a penny on the team.

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You can't really link those two things sensibly can you?

One involves spending the clubs money the takeover collapsing will have cost money personally. He could have walked away with some cash and let THM get on with that. Whatever his motives for stopping this happening that statement in the article is true.


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You had lads off this forum uncovering the murky deeds of TMH on the day of the takeover, why didnt pools do this before hand?

Why is russ green still been allowed to stay at pools after he introduced these people to the club?

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That is certainly a question that needs answering.


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You had lads off this forum uncovering the murky deeds of TMH on the day of the takeover, why didnt pools do this before hand?

Why is russ green still been allowed to stay at pools after he introduced these people to the club?


This is the same bloke who quit Pools to go and be chairman elsewhere yet when that fell through he was allowed back to resume.

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But dont expect nick to ask it, i'm just a keyboard warrior for suggesting he should be doing that instead of an IOR approved puff piece.

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Somehow I cant imagine Loughlin getting banned from the Vic, like Craig Stoddart was from Feethams for printing what the chairman didnt want to read.
Loughlin is too much an arse licker when it comes to Pools, his match reports prove this.


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You can't really link those two things sensibly can you?

One involves spending the clubs money the takeover collapsing will have cost money personally. He could have walked away with some cash and let THM get on with that. Whatever his motives for stopping this happening that statement in the article is true.


Talk about starting an argument over nothing.. Jesus. It's fairly obvious what he was getting at.

Are you Nick Loughlin? That piece is just a pointless article aimed at pleasing Ken's eyes which every man and his dog can see


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Is it common place for clubs to approve articles before they are allowed to go to press?

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You can't really link those two things sensibly can you?

One involves spending the clubs money the takeover collapsing will have cost money personally. He could have walked away with some cash and let THM get on with that. Whatever his motives for stopping this happening that statement in the article is true.


Talk about starting an argument over nothing.. Jesus. It's fairly obvious what he was getting at.

Are you Nick Loughlin? That piece is just a pointless article aimed at pleasing Ken's eyes which every man and his dog can see


I must admit I found it odd my post was one of the first on this thread and PJ replied to futher comments etc and then suddenly replied to mine? Almost as if prompted? :laugh:

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I think Nick usually writes well balanced articles but in this one he seems of gone over to the darkside of the force. This whole mess with TMH2014 has been the only thing that's sparked IOR into any positive action with Moore being appointed.

If Hodcroft is Pools' saviour it's only because he's finally put up the sails to slow down the ship's drift towards the rocks of relegation.

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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
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You can't really link those two things sensibly can you?

One involves spending the clubs money the takeover collapsing will have cost money personally. He could have walked away with some cash and let THM get on with that. Whatever his motives for stopping this happening that statement in the article is true.


Talk about starting an argument over nothing.. Jesus. It's fairly obvious what he was getting at.

Are you Nick Loughlin? That piece is just a pointless article aimed at pleasing Ken's eyes which every man and his dog can see


I must admit I found it odd my post was one of the first on this thread and PJ replied to futher comments etc and then suddenly replied to mine? Almost as if prompted? :laugh:


I was actually reading through the thread backwards :laugh:


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I hope Loughlin would be so damning of any consortium of local businesses that had links to convicted criminals as he has been TMH.


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I was actually reading through the thread backwards :laugh:


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My guess is that Loughlin, who I've met twice and certainly couldn't be called a mate of mine, has been given some off the record inside info about what went on and he trusts his source. His angle on things would probably make more sense if he could openly say who told him what.

I'm a lot more cynical than him about why Ken might want to stop the deal with TMH though. This is pure speculation but if you sell to people who are so dodgy that they attract attention from the national press and the revenue you might find the last few years of books being examined - not something that our Norweigan owners seem to be very keen on. I've got no idea what is in the books but it makes you wonder. If there was anything iffy, say to do with tax for the sake of argument, you'd certainly need to keep your chief exec who knows all about it onboard wouldn't you?


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Not really cos he'd be involved. If he knows about "anything iffy" he should be reporting it. Letting it go makes him just as guilty.

Facts are, between ken and Russ the club is on life support. The only way to get out of it was to back the manager in January. They waited till 1 day after to block the takeover. They have lost the majority of the fans for a reason. Me personally this can't be healed. I can only speak for myself though. If others want to be sucked in then that's up to them. Hopefully they don't because we are only going in one direction with these 2 running the show.

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What happened to investigative journalism? Honestly, I'm not sure why then need a media department at Pools these days when they've got the local press on such a tight lease.


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What happened to investigative journalism? Honestly, I'm not sure why then need a media department at Pools these days when they've got the local press on such a tight lease.


Is that like a "leash"?

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