No. The manager always has complete control. Sam Collins and Russ Green have never ever interfered. Ever. Not even a little bit

Whenever Austin is mentioned nowadays the word Error isn't far behind, fucking shite and needs binning asap

And neither did Ken!!

ffs... all everyone does on here is knock Pools.... simple this is not to go......go and support someone else if you dont like watching them.....

I wonder how many abusive replies I get now, because that is something else youse are good at!!!

This next week is critical to our survival and will tell us if the club really do want to stay in this league people keep saying lets a build a team for next season, i would say fuck that because we are already in the league now and i think it would be easier even in our current position to stay in rather than getting out of the Conference.
Ronnie now knows he has to replace the following =
Flinders Franks Austin Compton Walker
If the support is there and he can replace these players i believe we can have a real good go at staying up.......

He has a point.

He can but then he can also stay an offer an opinion which is kind of the point.

as for the original topic. Pools have years of form for this. Especially if you're a badge kissing, beetroot faced...................... etc

I won't abuse you... Yer big doyle!


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Take away the name Austin n flanders, replace it with most players in the "looked after positions" from about 2008 to now.

Give russ some credit, he looks after his boys.


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How quiet would a Pools message board be if you could only post positive stuff?

Rafferty and James Poole were both in the away end today

Edited for accuracy.

Not sure about that

Forgetting the fact our season has been total dogshit, I thought we played okay and you could see that everyone was putting in the effort. I thought Harrison was outstanding and also thought the guy from Ipswich played well, strong on the ball and trying to drive the team forward. The guy from Mansfield looked very sharp/promising first half but Wycombe stepped up a gear second half and could easily have won the game comfortably but for some solid defending.

Hawkins chance didn't last long...( refs conspiracy?)

I went out today to the excruciating arena that is the fun shack, most parents will know of it.

Didn't even take me phone to check the pools score, I had no idea until now Hawkins got sent off, it's just at that stage now where you know defeats gunna happen.


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Of course he can. How dare he disagree with any of the clique!
Last week Chip was shouting for Hawkins to come on - he did but didn't last long. This week it's Austin and Flinders to blame. Lets get Holden back - oh I forgot, he's crap as well!

and your point is?

I think his point is, is that the vibe always seems to be looking for the negatives and not looking at the positive, obviously too late and also potentially slight, improvements that have been made so far. If that's what they turn out to be. Limited budget and lack of appeal of the club could well mean we get opportunity to improve in just certain areas. Whilst we can't stop conceding goals, we are not scoring enough either. Maybe the manager see potential in some areas and none in others hence the areas he is addressing first.

As it is Mick, more often than not if you don't agree with Mark et al, you are lining yourself up to be shot at. Life's too short mate for all of that type of shit. Way too short. Pathetic really.

Something that isn't short is the amount of time we've been a football league club.

Something that is short is how long of this season is left to get out of this mess.

Yes let's be happy as fuck about the situation. Its fucking brilliant isnt it

This manor lad character IMO is another Loid. Signs are there, only posts to cause trouble and look for reactions. Surprisingly he's had bites which amazes me. When you read his post again its Blatently obvious he's fishing.

For the record people who don't whinge and only say positives in the current situation are the blinkered fuckers who are part of the problem. There is absolutely nothing to be happy about.

Personally it would devastate me to go down. Hopefully these owners ain't full of shite and spend some money and bring in the replacements that were promised

Which replacements where promised?
I know we did have 3 new signings playing yesterday who apparently are better than the 3 which were released last week.

There hasn't been 1 new signing, we have loan players in. 1 is a striker off Mansfield town. I don't think I need to continue

And what if the loan signings are better and fitter than players who would agree to come permanently?
Burgess, Williams, Barmby - loan players
Parmaby, Bates, Miller - permanent signings.
Need I continue.

My thoughts on Flinders and Austin retaining their places are:

- even if Flinders is playing badly he's still better than an untried Maxted. I agree with Chip's point that Rafferty was given a raw deal. When he came in he did nothing wrong and shouldn't have been replaced when he was.
- Austin is better than Holden. Austin is the hard man (not THAT hard granted) in the side and will put it about a bit - Moore likes this so Austin will keep his place I reckon. Holden is weak as piss defensively (just the other week against Morecambe when that pain in the arse Kevin Ellison came on he roughed Holden up, I doubt he'd have been as successful with Austin) and whilst he looks decent enough going forward he still has a tendancy to take his eye off the ball and dribble the fucking thing into touch when under no pressure. Personally I think Ronnie prefers the experience of Austin even if he has started making errors.

I don't think anyone is undroppable in Moore's eyes (at least I hope not). I can't imagine him taking any shit off any player or Russ or anyone else. He probably doesn't need the job in the same way that a Murray would and therefore would walk away if he had one hand up his back.

Chip - your original post raises reasonable enough questions apart form the last paragraph which is where I think you lost it a bit. Austin isn't the worst defender in the Football League and isn't a complete liability. Bates has cost us more goals than Austin and hasn't played as many games.

The other thing Chip is, and this goes for a many of your posts, you seemingly absolutely refuse to accept any other viewpoint apart from your own - you'll state that everyone is entitled to their opinions then utterly ridicule it and / or tell people they don't have to come on this forum if they challenge the apparent negativity of yours and others posts.

As a mod/admin/whatever you are you of this forum I think you should be a bit more open-minded to other's views - I am not saying you need to agree with them, just accept that where opinion is involved there is an alternative to yours which carries the exact same weight as your own view (as it isn't fact).

Unbelievable. Ok all is rosy then. Few loans will keep us up.

A few weeks ago you were saying who would buy us

Blinkered to fuck

Who has the blinkers on?
All has not been rosy for a long time and I don't expect it to change quick enough for us to stay up.

Maybe just maybe if we signed some players and actually spent some money we would have a chance of survival.

Or we could get players who arnt good enough for Mansfield town in

Doesn`t always work like that Ritchie, some players just don`t fit in a certain way of playing, he may be the best thing since no oil chip fryers, early days and at least we have players coming in, keep the faith boyo!

Be careful Chip, the chairman at Wigan has just been fined for something similar, although he didn`t state where the chink was, unlike your saying, at the end of the tunnel

Austin has been terrible lately - if there was anyone capable to come if for him then they should. Problem is there isn't anyone. He is a better player than he has been showing lately but confidence is at rock bottom throughout the side.

Rafferty MAY have had a raw deal but where is he now - Dover Athletic - so no other league club felt he was good enough then! Flinders has made mistakes, some that have cost games but he is still the best (only) option we have at present, and he did make some good saves yesterday as well.

It's easy to criticise players. As far as I'm concerned there should be a wholesale clearout but that's not going to happen and we have to make do. Lack of confidence and in some cases ability runs thoughout the team but it seems different players come into the firing line every week.

As for Moore and the new owners, please lets just give them a little bit of time - and I know the situation is desperate - if some players simply won't come there's not a lot you can do about it.

I stopped reading after positives


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It the norm to continuously blame defensive players for losing games.
In the past few years we've seen Humphreys, Walton, Liddle and Hartley getting the bulk of criticism, all have gone on to play for better teams. Now Austin and Flinders are the chosen ones.
I watched the Morcombe game and yeah, we could have done better with the goals conceded but the real reason it was such a poor performance was we got absolutely nothing from our attacking players.
It's easy for attacking players to hide out of the way during games, defenders don't get that option.

I'm one of Neil Austins biggest fans,he's been rock solid for Pools for many years. Sadly the last thirty games he has been FAR from solid. I'm sick of the sight of opposition forwards skipping past him, tired of his terrible distribution and heartily pissed off with that "half-a tackle " thing he does where he always ends up on the deck.

HOWEVER....we don't have anybody else.


Yet....

i think that if you walk around the ground every supporter will give you a list of players they think are good or total waste of shirt. by time you reach the last we would not have one player any one has not mentioned, point been we all have our say and our rants but we support worst team in league, not man utd city or Chelsea, who have money to buy who ever they want. im not too happy about loan signings but if they do the job then so be it. we don't want old pros coming in who only here for final pay day and don't give a toss, at least loan signings will give it a go. I personally think brad walker has great potential but should not be in team at moment, but guy behind me thinks he should be first name on sheet.

Just read this on the bog so came in handy for after washing my hands I didn't have to dry them as i put them in front of my phone and this hot air dried them. However as always there little drops of water to shake off even when using hot air, so

No I wasn't at the Morecambe game, I was ill, all tucked up. Illness made worse by travelling to Mansfield when I dragged three other people along to watch, when I shouldn't really have went. Still ill now but hey-ho. I did make sure my son and three of his mates went though, dragging people along in my absence.

You will find there are thousands of fans who will be pleased if there is light at the end of the tunnel, not just you, Mick and Phil.

But to reiterate my point just in case it wasn't fucking clear for you I didn't say people are pathetic for being pissed off, I said it's pathetic that folk are being shot at for offering a different opinion. And as for that bollocka me saying different in real life to what I say on here ...... Other than recent posts re protest, Evans and more bunker bullying I think the last post I made re team performance was after Blyth which was RIP HUFC stating club was dead. They have been doomed since that cup defeat in my eyes and have been a poor disjointed team for seasons but I ain't going to go on and on about it, I no more blow smoke up the clubs arse than I do knock it. i don't need to kiss arse or wait for my arse to be kissed by what I say or don't say on a message board on the Internet FFS. Going on about how shit the team are 'in here' is not going to make any difference to the price of milk. I think it's unnecessary for people to be roundly abused every time they post when they stray from the doctrine of the big boys.

Also remind me of the last time we spoke and the conversation we had. I can't recall it been so long since I apoke with you.

Austin has been poor but Holden instead of him, based on what...being bustled off the ball to easy, stopping it going out for a goal kick then running it out for a Morecambe throw in with no opposition player near him, failing to be able to pass to a Pools player within 30 yards of him on numerous occassions. Yes he can go forward but then his final ball/ choice is abysmal. We need better defenders and Holden does not fall into that category.

Chip , whats the point of the manager coming out and naming his targets/players he's talking to wouldn't that be counterproductive and allowing other clubs to know who we want and maybe get them instead. If that happened some would be complaining either we shouldn't have named them or that we offered them peanuts and other clubs offered them better deal. We've been turned down by far to many this week that haven't been named, so god knows what would happen if we then lost out the ones we were willing to name.

Nomination for post of the year already and it only 4th January.

Bob, you make the assumption that the manager didn't name them in the first place.

chip, I totally agree the point of finders and Austin not getting dropped is a mystery, may be written in contracts that if fit they play. as nothing about pools back room surprises me. Austin has been a great plater in his time at pools and scotty was destined for better things but stayed and became as bad as the jokes of defenders who play in front of him, not counting duckworth who I think is our stand out player.

There's seems to be two groups:

1)Those with connections to working for the club who still refuse to believe were in the shit and have blind faith.

2)The rest who can see exactly how bad things are.

Only exception is elvis who has connections but dares say it how it really is.

Even people as positive as me are struggling.

he probably is a better plater than a player lol

3) Those with connections in or working for the club who know for a fact we are in the shit.

We could definately do with winning soon or we are going to ourselves in a relegation dogfight if we aren't careful.

Do u know if Featherstone is still here?

Who?

No way will Featherstone still be here, the lad plays football.

You.

Why are you been so negative? Surely will can still achieve automatic even if we draw!