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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:15 pm 
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There's an African bloke on the news who arrived from France and ended up in Nottingham. He applied for asylum and it was refused. Now there's a couple of people on the TV who are up in arms about it.

Why? France isn't a dangerous country (garlic poisioning excepted). The deal is that you claim asylum in the first safe country. He must have gone through 7 or 8 safe ones to get here.


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bit of a one dimensional argument that one Mr I,got any links to the story

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but how will they claim free benefits, housing etc do the french government compensate/welcome immigrants like us


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... on the local radio last night, there was a report that said the North East was missing out economically because we weren't attracting enough migrants ........ how?

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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:09 pm 
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... on the local radio last night, there was a report that said the North East was missing out economically because we weren't attracting enough migrants ........ how?


i dunno but the poles are invading big style, they're learning yakker now :grin:


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cornwall and to a lesser degree north devon couldn't exist without the poles.there is a massive eastern european population there of mainly white immigrants who work the summer/seasonal crap jobs eg flower picking that the locals won't do for minimum wage.

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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:34 pm 
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bit of a one dimensional argument that one Mr I,got any links to the story


I don't think it is

If his transit involved a journey through France, which it no doubt did, given the relative close proximity of North Africa to Garlic Land and their historical links, why the need to go to Dottingham (tunes!)?


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hartlepool does not have one registred asylum seeker.
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Portland in Dorset has been turn into an Eastern Block country, when the armed forces left they also left 000's of married quarters and they have all been given to asylum seekers. The bad thing is that the house prices are so high and wages so low young folks cannot afford anything at all. The 1st place outside London where you could get 4 X wages for a mortgage, my 2 bedroom flat cost £65,000 back in 1986.

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... on the local radio last night, there was a report that said the North East was missing out economically because we weren't attracting enough migrants ........ how?
Thats wrong because i work with about 100 poles and another 200 mixed race up in sunderland :shock:


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And thats without classing the geordies in that rolfl rolfl rolfl rolfl


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Funny one one night opened side of trailer and 4 ran out of factory door never seen again


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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 9:12 pm 
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Funny one one night opened side of trailer and 4 ran out of factory door never seen again


can you blame them in sunderland :grin: :laugh: :laugh:


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unless the daily star likes telling lies (which im sure it does)
every 1 in 8 arrests in britain is of an immigrant...but i do know my wage% wouldnt have increased as much as it did this year without employing the hundreds of polish what it has done.

the eastern european countries are making a massive but maybe un-noticed difference to our economy ...altho just think 20 years time when polish corner shops are the norm!!

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 12:46 am 
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unless the daily star likes telling lies (which im sure it does)
every 1 in 8 arrests in britain is of an immigrant...but i do know my wage% wouldnt have increased as much as it did this year without employing the hundreds of polish what it has done.

the eastern european countries are making a massive but maybe un-noticed difference to our economy ...altho just think 20 years time when polish corner shops are the norm!!


I wouldnt wipe my little bum bum on the Daily Star.... 1 in 8 my fecking ring!


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unless the daily star likes telling lies (which im sure it does)
every 1 in 8 arrests in britain is of an immigrant...but i do know my wage% wouldnt have increased as much as it did this year without employing the hundreds of polish what it has done.

the eastern european countries are making a massive but maybe un-noticed difference to our economy ...altho just think 20 years time when polish corner shops are the norm!!
Mine was 2% a load of crap what was yours as i have poles all around me :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 2:31 am 
alybaba wrote:
jools wrote:
unless the daily star likes telling lies (which im sure it does)
every 1 in 8 arrests in britain is of an immigrant...but i do know my wage% wouldnt have increased as much as it did this year without employing the hundreds of polish what it has done.

the eastern european countries are making a massive but maybe un-noticed difference to our economy ...altho just think 20 years time when polish corner shops are the norm!!
Mine was 2% a load of crap what was yours as i have poles all around me :roll:


Dunno, but Polish arent illegal, they are part of the EC


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but how will they claim free benefits, housing etc do the french government compensate/welcome immigrants like us


Welcome/compensate immigrants?? You're fookin' joking. If you'd just gone through the shite that we've had to go through just to get my Mrs a visa to just visit the UK you'd think a bit differently.

Firstly, they don't take postal applications, you have to go to the nearest Visa Centre. It's 500 miles away, so either she gets on a bus for 12 hours either way or we fly at about 100 quid return. They have a help line which they charge out at 5 yuen a minute which is about 33p. Cheap eh?? Most people here earn about 10 yuen a day. We called to track the Visa and after you've gone through all the pre-recorded bollocks the bill stood at 87 yuen. It would have put most Chinese out of business, they can live on that for a fortnight.

They said 4-6 days for a decision, so we booked a week in Bangkok for ten days time. Day eight came and nothing. This is when we made the phone call. Closed for Easter. Fooking Easter in a Buddhist/Taoist country?? She missed the holiday, the passport came back on day 20 with a letter asking her to go in for an interview.

So we paid for another flight to the Visa centre, by this time the bill was running at about 420 quid plus the cost of the visa itself 220 quid. The average Chinese earns 520 quid a year. She got to the interview armed with bank statements, wedding photos, mortgage statements, holiday forms and letters from her job and they asked her about my first marriage which ended in 1984. She said she didn't know but I had a daughter of 28 from it so probably that long ago. They asked why we wanted a visitor visa instead of a settlement one, she said family reasons which are nowt to do with you lot and we might have to run at any time and didn't want to wait 20 days for them to get their finger out. They said OK, visa granted. 1000 miles and a hundred quid for two questions and ten minutes.

Point being, most people in the third world cant afford to go to England. They get priced out by the administration and fuc ked about from pillar to post. We got 'try the website' we did, it said the same thing from day one 'passport sent to Embassy' and the date. We rang and said the website doesn't tell us anything and we've got a holiday booked. They said try the website after 5.30. Guess what time they close?? Yeah 'fuc k off' by any standards.

A visa for Thailand is about 28 quid, a Visa for Vietnam is about 21 quid. A Visa for England, just the basic visitor Visa like you'd get for a holiday?? 220 quid. The whole sorry saga, including the money we lost on the holiday stood us at over a grand. Or two years Chinese wages.

Welcome immigrants?? They don't even welcome your wife, she was made to feel like a criminal all the way through the entire process. So hopefully that's popped THAT particular myth. They refuse about 38% of Visa applications and the vast majority are from students already granted Uni places in England who automatically get their visa after their course is confirmed by the Uni.


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 4:42 am 
Oh and incidentally, she's not even allowed to work let alone claim benefits. If she'd got a settlement Visa, she'd be allowed to reside in the UK for two years but not work or claim anything, not even NHS treatment, we'd have to pay. After two years, they might grant a permanent residence, at which stage she would be allowed all the above, providing my stamp was up to date. If she breaks the rules the Visa gets revoked and would never be granted again.


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Oh and incidentally, she's not even allowed to work let alone claim benefits. If she'd got a settlement Visa, she'd be allowed to reside in the UK for two years but not work or claim anything, not even NHS treatment, we'd have to pay. After two years, they might grant a permanent residence, at which stage she would be allowed all the above, providing my stamp was up to date. If she breaks the rules the Visa gets revoked and would never be granted again.


what do you want sympathy? :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:29 am 
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townendtimmy wrote:
but how will they claim free benefits, housing etc do the french government compensate/welcome immigrants like us


Welcome/compensate immigrants?? You're fookin' joking. If you'd just gone through the shite that we've had to go through just to get my Mrs a visa to just visit the UK you'd think a bit differently.

Firstly, they don't take postal applications, you have to go to the nearest Visa Centre. It's 500 miles away, so either she gets on a bus for 12 hours either way or we fly at about 100 quid return. They have a help line which they charge out at 5 yuen a minute which is about 33p. Cheap eh?? Most people here earn about 10 yuen a day. We called to track the Visa and after you've gone through all the pre-recorded bollocks the bill stood at 87 yuen. It would have put most Chinese out of business, they can live on that for a fortnight.

They said 4-6 days for a decision, so we booked a week in Bangkok for ten days time. Day eight came and nothing. This is when we made the phone call. Closed for Easter. Fooking Easter in a Buddhist/Taoist country?? She missed the holiday, the passport came back on day 20 with a letter asking her to go in for an interview.

So we paid for another flight to the Visa centre, by this time the bill was running at about 420 quid plus the cost of the visa itself 220 quid. The average Chinese earns 520 quid a year. She got to the interview armed with bank statements, wedding photos, mortgage statements, holiday forms and letters from her job and they asked her about my first marriage which ended in 1984. She said she didn't know but I had a daughter of 28 from it so probably that long ago. They asked why we wanted a visitor visa instead of a settlement one, she said family reasons which are nowt to do with you lot and we might have to run at any time and didn't want to wait 20 days for them to get their finger out. They said OK, visa granted. 1000 miles and a hundred quid for two questions and ten minutes.

Point being, most people in the third world cant afford to go to England. They get priced out by the administration and fuc ked about from pillar to post. We got 'try the website' we did, it said the same thing from day one 'passport sent to Embassy' and the date. We rang and said the website doesn't tell us anything and we've got a holiday booked. They said try the website after 5.30. Guess what time they close?? Yeah 'fuc k off' by any standards.

A visa for Thailand is about 28 quid, a Visa for Vietnam is about 21 quid. A Visa for England, just the basic visitor Visa like you'd get for a holiday?? 220 quid. The whole sorry saga, including the money we lost on the holiday stood us at over a grand. Or two years Chinese wages.

Welcome immigrants?? They don't even welcome your wife, she was made to feel like a criminal all the way through the entire process. So hopefully that's popped THAT particular myth. They refuse about 38% of Visa applications and the vast majority are from students already granted Uni places in England who automatically get their visa after their course is confirmed by the Uni.


get the slow boat from china then, sneak her in and claim asylum. you half way to the asylum any way kev :wink: thanks for the education on visa's btw :wink:


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Oh and incidentally, she's not even allowed to work let alone claim benefits. If she'd got a settlement Visa, she'd be allowed to reside in the UK for two years but not work or claim anything, not even NHS treatment, we'd have to pay. After two years, they might grant a permanent residence, at which stage she would be allowed all the above, providing my stamp was up to date. If she breaks the rules the Visa gets revoked and would never be granted again.


what do you want sympathy? :wink:


No mate, we didn't want anything apart from to visit my family in my country with my wife at our own expense.

It'd just be nice if everyone stopped talking fooking shit about an open door policy on immigrants that's all. They dunno what they're on about. You have to jump the moon to get into the UK, even when you're entitled through marriage.

For the record, anyone from the EU isn't an immigrant. They live in the same common trade zone as the Brits and have freedom of passage and are therefore migrants, not immigrants.


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Oh and incidentally, she's not even allowed to work let alone claim benefits. If she'd got a settlement Visa, she'd be allowed to reside in the UK for two years but not work or claim anything, not even NHS treatment, we'd have to pay. After two years, they might grant a permanent residence, at which stage she would be allowed all the above, providing my stamp was up to date. If she breaks the rules the Visa gets revoked and would never be granted again.


what do you want sympathy? :wink:




It'd just be nice if everyone stopped talking fooking shiit about an open door policy on immigrants that's all. They dunno what they're on about. You have to jump the moon to get into the UK, even when you're entitled through marriage.



it's a case of them closing the stable door after the horse has bolted tho innit and as you say it's the genuine ones that pay the price

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:34 pm 
i reckon you're lass is ok to come in but you've been found out kev :wink: :laugh:


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katcha wrote:
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Oh and incidentally, she's not even allowed to work let alone claim benefits. If she'd got a settlement Visa, she'd be allowed to reside in the UK for two years but not work or claim anything, not even NHS treatment, we'd have to pay. After two years, they might grant a permanent residence, at which stage she would be allowed all the above, providing my stamp was up to date. If she breaks the rules the Visa gets revoked and would never be granted again.


what do you want sympathy? :wink:




It'd just be nice if everyone stopped talking fooking shiit about an open door policy on immigrants that's all. They dunno what they're on about. You have to jump the moon to get into the UK, even when you're entitled through marriage.



it's a case of them closing the stable door after the horse has bolted tho innit and as you say it's the genuine ones that pay the price


It's more a case of them being in complete chaos and completely out of touch with the situation in the countries in which they're trying to work. You only get to talk to the decision maker after you've blown a heap of cash dealing with yet another sub-contractor on huge money for being incompetent.


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aye you would think that they would make an effort with quite possiblythe most important country in the world for the next 25 years confised

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aye you would think that they would make an effort with quite possiblythe most important country in the world for the next 25 years confised


Certainly the country that's going to bankrupt the States anytime soon, with their trade deficit of $100bn!!


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