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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:30 pm 
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Strap them to pigs then shoot them they'll love that evil rag head bastards

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The worst part about this for me is there are people living in this country who support this disgusting,despicable, abhorrent act.

I agree, it's time to go in on the ground, but we also need to look at the evil fucking not nice people on our own shores who celebrate when these kind of things happen. Even some of the jihadists who are from iraq and Syria have been reported as saying that they are shocked by the level of violence shown by British jihadists and the pure evil and bloodlust they have.
Someone please take the swear filter off please.

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PS RIP Mr Henning, hopefully your killer will get what's coming to him very soon.

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Its time now for boots on the ground, how many beheadings before the world steps in. They all need putting down the lot of them


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Time to get out the big red fucking button.. Turn it to glass

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mr elkots wrote:
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It was inevitable . We need to go to war with them like.


And these air strikes are what?

Again the media coverage is giving them exactly what they crave.


I thank god your not one of the families who have been beheaded by this evil scum.


sctatchinghead

A bit of a bizarre comment.

It's abhorrent what these kunts are doing, they are the spawn of the devil, sub humans. It's utterly awful for the family of this poor man.

However these bastards use the media. They want this exposure they want this notoriety. If it was a member of my family God forbid I wouldn't want to hear the kunt who was about to behead my relatives twisted agenda on the news at ten moments before his cowardly act. The media are allowing this twisted soap opera to continue. Stop playing there next fucking instalment. Why are all the major news networks giving them what they want?


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Oh good some common sense has turned up.

Again the anger and revulsion is perfectly understandable, I feel it, but surely the last thing anyone wants to do is give these vile monsters anything they want.


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I think even my worst enemy would accept that fat and ugly are adjectives you couldn't really use to describe me. Though admittedly, you slender handsome prick hasn't got the same bite to it.


Maybe I was a little OTT in my post, but I don't like being labelled an 'imbecile' by someone who has never met me. Just because I don't type interesting/long or informative posts, doesn't make me a 'grade one imbecile'. We do have one thing in common though Chip, and that is Hartlepool United. Thought you could have at least taken that into account before you slagged me off. I apologize for my post about you, and also my IS comment.


Forget that....fuck the apology for my IS comment.


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IS have as much to do with Islam as Hitler did with Christianity .. They need irradiating now

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Chip Fireball wrote:
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worse.

Irrespective of who is backing them we must take them out along with any of their supporters in this country. If this means a war against the whole islam world then so be it.


You do realise thats exactly what they want dont you, to turn it into a massive war between believers in Islam and everyone else ?

The reality is that this is simple question of good versus evil, a man who selflessly tried to help others less fortunate than himself, being killed by an evil psychopath.

I do think for once the Yanks have got it right in building a multi-faith coalition, so that its not perceived as a war on Muslims , its a war on extremist nutters who are a danger to people of all religions. As I have said already though, its not just a case of taking out the foot soldiers, you need to root out the super rich hardline financiers in places like Saudi Arabia who actually bankroll all of this dumb shit.


Declaring war on a quarter of the Worlds population because of satanic death cult that numbers tens of thousands at most seems a rational step to take...


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And these air strikes are what?

Again the media coverage is giving them exactly what they crave.[/quote]

I thank god your not one of the families who have been beheaded by this evil scum.[/quote]

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A bit of a bizarre comment.

It's abhorrent what these kunts are doing, they are the spawn of the devil, sub humans. It's utterly awful for the family of this poor man.

However these bastards use the media. They want this exposure they want this notoriety. If it was a member of my family God forbid I wouldn't want to hear the kunt who was about to behead my relatives twisted agenda on the news at ten moments before his cowardly act. The media are allowing this twisted soap opera to continue. Stop playing there next fucking instalment. Why are all the major news networks giving them what they want?[/quote]


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Don't know what happened there lol


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A bit of a bizarre comment.

It's abhorrent what these kunts are doing, they are the spawn of the devil, sub humans. It's utterly awful for the family of this poor man.

However these bastards use the media. They want this exposure they want this notoriety. If it was a member of my family God forbid I wouldn't want to hear the kunt who was about to behead my relatives twisted agenda on the news at ten moments before his cowardly act. The media are allowing this twisted soap opera to continue. Stop playing there next fucking instalment. Why are all the major news networks giving them what they want?[/quote]

Why is it bizarre? This is the real world mate its happening banghead This is what they do. So what are you saying?

FFS you sound like KH.

Its not nice seeing this, but these daft evil bastards doing these cowardly evil acts don't realise its a rod against their own back.

The world is watching!


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A bit of a bizarre comment.

It's abhorrent what these kunts are doing, they are the spawn of the devil, sub humans. It's utterly awful for the family of this poor man.

However these bastards use the media. They want this exposure they want this notoriety. If it was a member of my family God forbid I wouldn't want to hear the kunt who was about to behead my relatives twisted agenda on the news at ten moments before his cowardly act. The media are allowing this twisted soap opera to continue. Stop playing there next fucking instalment. Why are all the major news networks giving them what they want?[/quote]

Why is it bizarre? This is the real world mate its happening banghead This is what they do. So what are you saying?

FFS you sound like KH.

Its not nice seeing this, but these daft evil bastards doing these cowardly evil acts don't realise its a rod against their own back.

The world is watching!


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They are making are distributing fairly professionally made videos of these murders. I'm sort of guessing they want the World to watch that is kind of the whole idea.


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Maybe they've already murdered these poor souls ..

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Chip Fireball wrote:
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Oh good some common sense has turned up.

Again the anger and revulsion is perfectly understandable, I feel it, but surely the last thing anyone wants to do is give these vile monsters anything they want.


Very little good has come of this whole sorry carry on thus far, but I guess you could maybe cling to a couple of things.

The first is that these videos and the following publicity have acted as a magnet for a whole host of complete and utter psychos to come crawling out of the woodwork and make their way to the perceived caliphate. Obviously the more of these characters you have rounded up in one place far away the better , and anyone from the UK who has gone out there to join in, should either come back in a wooden box or in chains.

The second is that by killing in cold blood a bloke who went with a convoy of Muslims to deliver aid, they will have actually pissed off 99% of Muslims in this country. Any grudging respect some may have had for a war on the west is surely being slowly and surely eradicated.

In effect they are actually uniting people in this country who see them for what they are, utter nutters.


I agree with all of that I just don't think we need to see any still or audio footage from these macabre videos on major news networks. It's news that certainly needs reporting but we don't need to see any attempted justification of cold blooded murder from these monsters. Show us some footage when they find and bring them to justice.


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PJPoolie wrote:
They are making are distributing fairly professionally made videos of these murders. I'm sort of guessing they want the World to watch that is kind of the whole idea.



Misinterperated a post as usual :roll: Your the kind who gets bullied at school, only for mammy to tell you to rise above it and ignore him it il go away :roll:

Wake up son :wink:


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I don't think I'm the one misinterpreting posts here to be honest.


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I don't think I'm the one misinterpreting posts here to be honest.


Youre No 1.. And a worserer speller than me :laugh:


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The first is that these videos and the following publicity have acted as a magnet for a whole host of complete and utter psychos to come crawling out of the woodwork and make their way to the perceived caliphate. Obviously the more of these characters you have rounded up in one place far away the better , and anyone from the UK who has gone out there to join in, should either come back in a wooden box or in chains.

The second is that by killing in cold blood a bloke who went with a convoy of Muslims to deliver aid, they will have actually pissed off 99% of Muslims in this country. Any grudging respect some may have had for a war on the west is surely being slowly and surely eradicated.

In effect they are actually uniting people in this country who see them for what they are, utter nutters.[/quote]

I agree with all of that I just don't think we need to see any still or audio footage from these macabre videos on major news networks. It's news that certainly needs reporting but we don't need to see any attempted justification of cold blooded murder from these monsters. Show us some footage when they find and bring them to justice.[/quote]

PJ agrees with sir lord chip fireball shocker :shock: "They will have pissed off 99% of muslims in this country.. who see them for what they are, utter nutters. in effect they are actually uniting people in this country.

Key word pj,, SEE :drool:




But then contradicts hiself as always,, replying to me?


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Forget that....fuck the apology for my chip fireball comment.


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The first is that these videos and the following publicity have acted as a magnet for a whole host of complete and utter psychos to come crawling out of the woodwork and make their way to the perceived caliphate. Obviously the more of these characters you have rounded up in one place far away the better , and anyone from the UK who has gone out there to join in, should either come back in a wooden box or in chains.

The second is that by killing in cold blood a bloke who went with a convoy of Muslims to deliver aid, they will have actually pissed off 99% of Muslims in this country. Any grudging respect some may have had for a war on the west is surely being slowly and surely eradicated.

In effect they are actually uniting people in this country who see them for what they are, utter nutters.


I agree with all of that I just don't think we need to see any still or audio footage from these macabre videos on major news networks. It's news that certainly needs reporting but we don't need to see any attempted justification of cold blooded murder from these monsters. Show us some footage when they find and bring them to justice.[/quote]

PJ agrees with sir lord chip fireball shocker :shock: "They will have pissed off 99% of muslims in this country.. who see them for what they are, utter nutters. in effect they are actually uniting people in this country.

Key word pj,, SEE :drool:




But then contradicts hiself as always,, replying to me?[/quote]

FFS

You've clearly had a skinful last night so I'll break this up into simple terms for you :laugh: :wink:

I am not contradicting myself I agree that people need to know exactly whet these animals are doing.

I am not missing your point we are disagreeing, Chip is agreeing with you. I just don't think the videos should be used by any of the news networks. As they are basically propaganda for these nut jobs.

I agree with you and Chip that people need to know what these people are doing, so the World including the Islamic World can be rightfully revolted by these murders but to be so we don't need to SEE a terrified man with two kids moments before his death. We know the drill by now any half decent human feels exactly the same. So I slightly disagree about the way the media coverage. I think we'd all feel just as if not more appalled by seeing the image of Mr Henning carrying to small Muslim lad that's been on the news and in the papers along with news of what they have done to this man. A man who was only in the area to help.

Better that than he kneeling, utterly terrified,in an orange boiler suit with a knife to his throat.


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I hope we do a nuclear detonation on the House of Lords and House of Commons as well, cos ritual child sacrifice by top free masons is brushed under the carpet as well

Now I have your attention....

what folks have to realise is a lot of every day people in the middle east also can't do anything about these heavily armed nutters because they can't fight back... and they want their families to live...

the IRA and the UVF/UDA controlled their own communities along the same lines... they had weapons and if you opened your mouth you were a dead man

the people in the middle east don't want any of this crap, why should they be punished for the actions of a mindless few?

troops and targeted destruction is what's needed...

but how did they get the money in the first place?

who gave them it? and who passed the money on in turn to those who gave them it?

I stopped looking at the symptoms a while ago..... the underlying causes are triggered by folks who seemingly have nothing to do with events on the surface of it all.... but sadly most folks won't accept that

because the masses here are brainwashed and controlled in a different way

liberals and free thinkers try simply to make sense of the situation, rather than simply jumping behind the flag of the country they live in

Evil has to be wiped out, we are all in agreement on that... I just happen to disagree with how the perceived cause of this evil all came about

I honestly think it stems much closer to home

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ISIL are IMO a huge threat to the civilised world and they need to be faced, but as others have pointed out on this thread, the complexity, interaction and diversity of the region mean that any solutions are not straightforward. The developed world in general are poor at taking a long view of these situations and tend to react to perceived immediate issues – sometimes poorly, sometimes with great dignity and intellect. As a card carrying Guardianista and owner of several vintage outrage mopeds, I find myself strangely torn in this case and drawn to two equally disturbing possible solutions:
ONE: Take a deep breath, think of the long term and walk the fuck away. All the civilised world unite and face up to the historical and cultural inevitability that the region is divided up on a basis that is no longer, if indeed ever was, relevant. There are probably 3 separate regions that need to establish themselves – Suni, Shia and Kurd – and let them establish themselves. It will be fucking awful, there will be global repercussions and effects but we should plan for that and walk away. We are and have been for nearly a century, addicted to oil and a movement away from that addiction would radically alter our interests in the region. Thousands will perish, it will take generations, but it should lead to a more sustainable and stable area. Whether or not we are capable of watching that unfold, dealing with the consequences at the peripheries or reducing our hydrocarbon dependency is all questionable – but it is an option.
TWO: Kill them all. All those identifiable as ISIL - infiltrate and identify. And kill all of them. They’ll come back, but in smaller numbers. Kill all of them again. ISIL represent some fucked up throwback to a time when killing for kicks was acceptable, mundane and frequent. By and large, we’ve all moved on and realise that feeding ourselves, living our lives as best we can and being happy is pretty much it and we seem fairly content with that. Fair play there’s the odd spat over oil, land etc but over the last century we’ve generally moved on. ISIS are still fucking about in the middle ages but now they have sharper knives, guns and HD video-cameras – but they are still fucking throwbacks. The civilised world – all members thereof – arm up a decent force, identify these fuckers and kill every one of them, again and again. Let their backers know that if we find lines of communication/training/funding that lead back to them, we will go in and kill all of ISIL in their patch to. We have achieved great things as a civilised society – scientifically, intellectually, culturally – and ISIL represents the antithesis of all that. Fuck them – we deserve better and whilst it may be what they are looking to provoke, maybes a ‘Shock and Awe’ on a monstrous level is what is required as response from the civilised world. Go in so hard, so fierce, so committed that people will think twice before they offer ISIL any assistance.
There are no simple solutions, and the two scenarios here are just the two that have caught my eye. But we will need to do something other than piss about on the periphery. Me – I would err towards options one – maybes…


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the paradox of Islam is that they aren't a united front as MFR alludes to... there's a class system operating there, with those in Africa deemed the equivalent of the untouchables, along with Bosnians and converts... all the while there is a power struggle going on between the rest for the perceived status of being the superior race in the Islamic world

Sad indeed, very sad, that such conflicts exist anywhere... but they exist everywhere... but this one has involvement from the west because there's oil there

If all of this was going on between different south Pacific islands, we wouldn't even know about it

They wouldn't have the money to buy a pistol for starters

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