Decent article by him today, can't see it happening like.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/jo ... an-7846660

Good on yer Joe - at least we have a voice in the media who is listening to Pools fans and is prepared to speak out - unlike the pathetic, fawning Cooper-lovers on Radio Borer and also the formerly forthright Nick Laughlin who seems to have totally lost his spine of late - unless he is being hamstrung by an Northern Echo policy not to upset and therefore be banned NE club chairman?

Can't fault a word he's saying there, sums it up nicely.


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Parnaby probably put his back out if he spat his dummy out. It's all rumours tho and typing them here don't make them true - see I heard it the other way round and the club trying to terminate his deal, and if he leaves we copy and paste is all you will get.

I think it's just a shame that probably the majority of fans think it's Coopers fault and are not seeing the big picture, with these sort of fans using similar quotes such as "They have given us the best football in our history" "Without them we'd be with Darlo" blah blah blah We have received decent money in the last 9 months for players and seen pretty much nothing in return apart. Of course Cooper isn't completely blameless as his tactics and substitutions are extremely questionable at times, even if he goes what are people expecting? No chance we would get a proven lower league manager as no doubt they would want a few quid to spend. FFP is the biggest smoke screen going. IOR have completely lost interest, no communication, no AGM and limiting the manager to either freebies from Boro or journeymen on the way out. I've been quite fortunate as I've only been around for the IOR years but the fundamental basics are just non existent, we must be the only club that doesn't have any communication with it's fans apart from popping on here and threatening to sue. Just talk to us Ken, it's the least we deserve and not just your predictable programme notes that contains 80% of stuff about other clubs and 10% FFP

What I heard yesterday amongst some quite interesting stuff about lots of things was that Parnaby hasn't spat out his dummy out his heads gone. Unlikely the play again for various reasons mainly physiological. I think he's had quite a hard time for one reason or another over the last year or so.

Well said Joe. One who not bothered about free tickets or appearing on POOLSworld.

Well said Joe. One who not bothered about free tickets or appearing on POOLSworld.

I also heard the same.

I hope for his sake he sorts it out, not nice at all.


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Not trying to be a smart arse PJ, genuine question - do you mean you've heard it is psychological?

Yes, damn you IPhone autocorrect!!

Great article, well said super Joe. Even with a voice in the press I know ken still won't speak

That's what make rumours awful stuff for as always there only a couple of people know what's really going on. If your heads not in a good place, then likely to be your body's not there either.

Rarely do i post on here, even rarer that I post titbits - which I did to show how many different things you can hear about the same situation - so therefore annoyed with my post above now - for I have since got some background and now can appreciate any predicament he encounters.

Not wanting to get into an argument but if he is suffering from something like that do you think it's right to be putting it on a public forum?

I have to doubt the validity of it simply because who would be dumb enough to leak something like that in the first place? They must have no idea of the damage it could cause.

Damage? Surely people being aware of this will stop unwarranted criticism of the lad. Nobody has said he is suffering anything specific or posted any details. It just might help in terms of the stick he's been getting as I think most people on here realise their are far important things in life than football.

Yes damage, shame of it being public, regardless of details being released or not.

Shit if you ask me, as I said, not looking for an argument, just think it's not right to even speculate on such a rumour. Bit of empathy required.

What's to be ashamed of like?

Yes it's 'shit' and shows a lack of empathy trying to put a stop to people who might not have heard about other issues slagging him off at every opportunity.

Nothing from my point of view, from Stuart's it might be different. You don't know that hence my post. It's up to him to reveal it if he wants to. I don't like the way you tried to turn the emphasis onto me either. I don't think mental health issues are anything to be ashamed of, I just think you should show a bit of class when posting rumours like this one.

It's probably a load of old shit anyway like Peter Hartley's 3 grand wage packet.

It's a good job you're not trying to start an argument here.

I'm not even going to lower myself and respond to most of that, all I will say I know what my intentions were when posting which I am ok with and that I never mentioned mental health issues, you did.

"Parnaby hasn't spat out his dummy out his heads gone. Unlikely the play again for various reasons mainly physiological"

Are you trying to pass off your mis-spelling of the word psychological as the original intention then?

I wasn't wanting to get into an argument however you seem to thrive on it. What you posted shouldn't have been posted, that's my opinion.

As for the rest of your drivel and attempts to point score on the internet just crack on. Hope you have a prosperous day at work.

Unbelievable. What has happened to the bloke in the last year isn't even a secret, it was all over the papers when it happened.

You're entitled to your opinion and if the mods feel like the thread needs deleting then so it be it. But as for the other stuff, as I say I'm not lowering myself.

I don't see any need to delete this. I can only see the outrage bus being unnecessarily started up. PJ's initial post was restrained and full of good intentions. How on earth anyone can have a go at that is beyond me.

Psychology and issues or problems equating to sportsmen doesn't automatically mean someone has mental health issues either. A loss or lack of motivation or confidence and self belief is a major issue which is going seriously impact on a persons ability to do his job.

It's why a lot of coaches employ someone to deal with this side of things now.

That's fair enough. I misconstrued what you were saying. Easy enough to do in text.

Apologies.

If it's not too rude to ask... Wha problems did he have this past year?

As it is also said above another rumour was that the club were trying to terminate the players contract. They are all rumours and personally the matter will be best dealt with by the club, manager, and player directly without comments from the outside world, making assumptions that A, B or C are in the wrong.

I'm sure all will become clear in due course

And some of us have been through similar experiences or know close friends/family who have.

Cooper himself has been through it.

I stopped reading at

It was a cracking night and it brought back memories of 1991 when the club turned things round and won their first-ever promotion to the Third Division.

Joking about stopping reading but does it show that it may have been done by a ghost writer who hasn't checked his facts.

It was 90/91 though wasn't it?

It wasn't first promotion though.....

No.

He forgot about the first. Like everything else in life no one wants to be second..

What year was it then?

I'd be happy if Pools are second come May

It was

1968/69 I think, Cloughie's team largely but Gus McLean took us up. Clough took Les Green, John McGovern and Tony Parry to Derby County and saved us from extinction by the taxman.

And john Sheridan I think

67/68

On Parnaby, if that is true then its a shame. As fans we tend to look at footballers in terms of they are either good or bad, never think that they may be going through some of the problems us ordinary folk/fans go through, such as drink, drugs, bullying, women trouble or just low moods. This always crosses my mind when I see a player struggling over a long period, especially a player who has fell from grace quite quickly

Bingo Mr Horden. Usually hidden behind the nauseating phrase "I'm entitled to my opinion.'

Well he's entitled to his life off the pitch.

And should it be true, as a player of our club i think the least we can do is be supportive to both player and his family. He might of had a difficult start to the season and maybe that is why cooper has tried to play him. As a distraction, a target of something to focus on? But from now on I think as fans we should ease the criticism and allow the club and player to solve the issue.

Whose that aimed at?!

Who is that swipe aimed at Tree? What is wrong with getting a free ticket for offering your services for free or appearing on Poolsworld.

There is nothing wrong with it.

But there again its just a cheap shot at getting a bite.

No humour whatsoever.

Poor effort tree.

Not yourself.

I applaud your stance of paying in rather than using your free ticket.

Local press maybe?

Thats Elvis out of the equation then, but who is it aimed at? You cant just come on here and throw things about like that. What is wrong with an ex player or fan or journalist getting a free ticket or paid for working on behalf of the club? not that I am saying they do.