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 Post subject: It did the job what's the problem!?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:02 am 
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http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-27215508

Great headline ; 'Inmate dies in botched execution'

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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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Because he died in lots of pain, in what should have been a painless death...


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Because he died in lots of pain, in what should have been a painless death...

Some would say thats justice.

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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:08 pm 
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No he's been punished once by being given the death penalty; now he's been punished twice so in my opinion it's unjust.


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Death is death, it's unfortunate , but hey. He shouldn't have done whatever he did in the first place.

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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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He got a girl to watch whilst his accomplices dug her grave and then he shot her in it all because she would give up the keys to her van.

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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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Right, regardless of how bad his crime is. He's been punished twice, instead of the one time he should have been... He got his punishment of the death penalty for his act; he does not deserve the second punishment of a painful and horrible death.


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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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Surely the death penalty was his punishment and this was carried out, what's the problem


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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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He died a painful death instead of the one he was given. Now two people have suffered instead of one.


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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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The more painful the better....the horrible evil kunt!!!! rakxe


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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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I dont understand all these fancy expensive injections and change of drugs for doing this. Either give them a load of smack or buy a rope for B and Q its cheaper and quicker. For the record I dont agree with capital punishment.

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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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Fuck him. Why shouldn't he die in pain?

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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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No, just no. You are being just as bad as him by wishing a painful death upon someone.


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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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Not being bothered that a pathetic piece of shit like him died a painful death is hardly the same as digging a girl a grave then shooting her dead is it ?

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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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An eye for an eye in my book. You give up your human rights when you do that kind of shit IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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The sentence was death by LETHAL INJECTION this happened, it didn't say death by not very nice stuff


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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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They injected him and it WAS lethal though...

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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:28 pm 
It just reduces the authorities to the same level as the psychopath they're executing. Says a lot about them when they can't even kill somebody efficiently.


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Spender wrote:
It just reduces the authorities to the same level as the psychopath they're executing.


Did the guy accidentally dig a grave and then accidentally kill the woman like?

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Exponents of the death penalty I give you the Birmingham & .. they'd be long gone if you'd of had your way.. Lock them up and throw away the key ..No person has the right to take anyone else's life..

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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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Give me the fcking drugs I'll do his fcking mate. Who was suppose to die by same means 2 hours later.

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Yes nice man, I'll make sure it goes wrong.He's lived fcking 17 years to long anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:53 pm 
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It just reduces the authorities to the same level as the psychopath they're executing.


Did the guy accidentally dig a grave and then accidentally kill the woman like?


Yes, of course he did.

Did the authorities find out whether their drug made your blood vessels explode?

There's more to this without getting into a bitch fight. Some lawyer in America found out that it's illegal for the drug they used to use from crossing state lines. There's only one supplier, in Alabama, (surprisingly) and so they're having to arse about finding alternative ways to off their convicts.

All I'm saying is that if they must kill people as an act of revenge, do it humanely. That's what would make the difference between the executioner and the criminal.


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Spender wrote:
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Spender wrote:
It just reduces the authorities to the same level as the psychopath they're executing.


Did the guy accidentally dig a grave and then accidentally kill the woman like?


Yes, of course he did.

Did the authorities find out whether their drug made your blood vessels explode?

There's more to this without getting into a bitch fight. Some lawyer in America found out that it's illegal for the drug they used to use from crossing state lines. There's only one supplier, in Alabama, (surprisingly) and so they're having to arse about finding alternative ways to off their convicts.

All I'm saying is that if they must kill people as an act of revenge, do it humanely. That's what would make the difference between the executioner and the criminal.

No bitch fight from me Kev, they don't call me Yubep :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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According to reports the drug previously used was not available for export from Europe when discovered it was being used for this purpose.

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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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According to reports the drug previously used was not available for export from Europe when discovered it was being used for this purpose.


Yes, and there was only one importer. Once the suit discovered who that was, he invoked the 'crossing a state line with a deadly substance' law.


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So can you carry cigarettes across the state line.......?

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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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So can you carry cigarettes across the state line.......?


Oh aye. And any manner of poison sanctioned through the pharmas. Just don't take your lass across if you're a rock star and she's under age. :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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Fuck him.

The 'lovely lovely person' and his accomplices should have been skinned alive then thrown to some dogs.

Even that would be merciful.

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The J Dizzle wrote:
Right, regardless of how bad his crime is. He's been punished twice, instead of the one time he should have been... He got his punishment of the death penalty for his act; he does not deserve the second punishment of a painful and horrible death.


Nice to see he served a good few years in jail as well...proper justice.


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I wonder if they had a chorus of, "For he's a jolly good fellow"?

...nah I didn't think so either!!!

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Never approved of the death penalty but reading of their crimes I have my doubts now.

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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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Like Spender says the death penalty reduces you to their level. I've got no problem making them earn their keep while they're incarcerated though.

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I really don't see why the death penalty should be painless. It's rarely painless for the innocent ones who are killed. You should get a similar death penalty to that which you are guilty of.

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14 years of expensive appeals then the death penalty.. Seems a bit pointless really (definitely negates the cost argument used by some).. Lock them up in solitary till they die far with no luxuries.. Far better punishment

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Oh and Police have never fitted someone up for murder have they ..

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 Post subject: Re: It did the job what's the problem!?
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I am opposed to the death penalty but for certain crimes I find myself questioning myself. Like for example someone capable and murdering and raping an 11 month old baby. Such an individual is clearly sub human and I see no valid reason for them to be alive, they are beyond serving time.

So am I opposed to the death penalty? I suppose the question is where to you draw the line between what is punishable by death and what is life in prison I'm not sure you can and I agree that killing people is brining you down to that level, a level the law should be above.

I wasn't really trying to start a debate to be honest I just find someone dieing in a botched execution quite amusing. I think if you did a risk assessment the chance of death during your execution would be quite high.


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It's a bit like a hanging where the person strangles to death rather than the more preferable dislocation of the vertebrae snapping of the spinal cord... It gets the "desired" result but without the necessary "humaness" a jucdical murder should have

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If there is irrefutable evidence then I think capital punishment should apply.
If there is manipulation, which happens, or doubts about the truth then there is a problem.
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