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Take a bow son ? Fucking outstanding again


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 Post subject: Re: Sam Collins
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Everyone played well, Walton and Holden also immense.

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Walton? I never noticed he was playing tbh. Collins was brilliant. Baldwin who?

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the same Walton who had a direct hand in both of the first 2 goals you mean?

I would have had him as my Man of the Match personally.

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 Post subject: Re: Sam Collins
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Walton? I never noticed he was playing tbh. Collins was brilliant. Baldwin who?

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Are you on a permanent wind-up like some sort of shit version of Sussex?? Walton was EVERYWHERE today.


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Walton never put a foot wrong today, no stupid passes etc and was everywhere, looks to have lost weight too.

4 clean sheets in row since Baldwin left?

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 Post subject: Re: Sam Collins
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Fair play to Sam, I was one of his biggest critics last season (and really teed off when Murray was released and not him) but he's really acted with professionalism all season and is playing outstandingly.

Maybe the change of manager has done it, maybe the extra responsibilities he's been handed have focused him more but whatever it is, hats off to him. Absolutely outstanding today.


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...like some sort of shit version of Sussex....

the harshest put down i've ever heard on here, by far! :laugh: clappp

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It's a fucking mental thing to say..hardly noticed Walton playing?? Honestly, I fucking despair. He touched the ball about every five seconds. He was our best Defender, AND our best Midfielder in the same fucking match. Radged.


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I've been one of Walton's biggest critics,but today he was excellent & fully deserved man of the match.


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 Post subject: Re: Sam Collins
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Just spoke to my neighbour and he saud Collins was superb and Williams to....sounds like everyone had a great game!!!! clappp


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 Post subject: Re: Sam Collins
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Walton? I never noticed he was playing tbh. Collins was brilliant. Baldwin who?

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Are you on a permanent wind-up like some sort of shit version of Sussex?? Walton was EVERYWHERE today.


Erm, yes. I think I've got to admit that I may have been wrong to defend Grave in the past against his detractors. A series of loopy recent posts have culminated in to-day's grande finale : he didn't notice Walton was playing.

But yes, great work Sam. Great work everybody on the pitch. Yay :)


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Clearly I must have been half pissed! I genuinely didn't think Walton did that much. The centre halves played very well as did holden but I don't think it was a vintage performance today. We certainly weren't worth 3 goals more than them.

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Clearly I must have been half pissed! I genuinely didn't think Walton did that much. The centre halves played very well as did holden but I don't think it was a vintage performance today. We certainly weren't worth 3 goals more than them.

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nope, you must have been fully fucking pissed. walton was head and shoulders above everyone on the pitch. should be made club captain next year, as he not only played superbly but he was constantly talking to the two young fullbacks and organising them. he was raging at collins being slightly slow to push out and looked ready to smack him. excellent performance from fistpump; superb range of passing, harried and hassled them when they had the ball and won some superb headers.

burgess and collins were very good, little lukey looks like he's been on the pies and guiness - much stronger. williams was fairly quiet but looked quality on the ball, and brad walker is gonna be a monster when he grows up. if he had a bit more pace, he'd be a target for upper championship teams at the very least.


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Looks like I will have to concede being wrong for the first time in my life :(

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I thought Walton played well, but he wasn't as good as Burgess.


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 Post subject: Re: Sam Collins
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Clearly I must have been half pissed! I genuinely didn't think Walton did that much. The centre halves played very well as did holden but I don't think it was a vintage performance today. We certainly weren't worth 3 goals more than them.

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nope, you must have been fully fucking pissed. walton was head and shoulders above everyone on the pitch. should be made club captain next year, as he not only played superbly but he was constantly talking to the two young fullbacks and organising them. he was raging at collins being slightly slow to push out and looked ready to smack him. excellent performance from fistpump; superb range of passing, harried and hassled them when they had the ball and won some superb headers.

burgess and collins were very good, little lukey looks like he's been on the pies and guiness - much stronger. williams was fairly quiet but looked quality on the ball, and brad walker is gonna be a monster when he grows up. if he had a bit more pace, he'd be a target for upper championship teams at the very least.


Walton is fantastic at organising the team. For me it is his best attribute. He gives the younger lads confidence and praise when it is needed. He was one of the first to run over and pat walker on the back for shutting their winger out in the second half and winning a free kick. We have IMO been a lot worse without him this year and teams seem to run through us when he is out. I think what some people dislike about him is that he will still scream at a player who does something stupid when he is having a bad game at the same time. For me anyway he should be one of the first names on the team sheet.

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 Post subject: Re: Sam Collins
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Collins was excellent today. Did what had to be done defensively, even had a little turn to completely roast a Newport player too. As for Walton as mentioned previously, easily the best player on the park for me today.


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Clearly I must have been half pissed! I genuinely didn't think Walton did that much. The centre halves played very well as did holden but I don't think it was a vintage performance today. We certainly weren't worth 3 goals more than them.

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nope, you must have been fully fucking pissed. walton was head and shoulders above everyone on the pitch. should be made club captain next year, as he not only played superbly but he was constantly talking to the two young fullbacks and organising them. he was raging at collins being slightly slow to push out and looked ready to smack him. excellent performance from fistpump; superb range of passing, harried and hassled them when they had the ball and won some superb headers.

burgess and collins were very good, little lukey looks like he's been on the pies and guiness - much stronger. williams was fairly quiet but looked quality on the ball, and brad walker is gonna be a monster when he grows up. if he had a bit more pace, he'd be a target for upper championship teams at the very least.


Walton is fantastic at organising the team. For me it is his best attribute. He gives the younger lads confidence and praise when it is needed. He was one of the first to run over and pat walker on the back for shutting their winger out in the second half and winning a free kick. We have IMO been a lot worse without him this year and teams seem to run through us when he is out. I think what some people dislike about him is that he will still scream at a player who does something stupid when he is having a bad game at the same time. For me anyway he should be one of the first names on the team sheet.


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I thought Walton played well, but he wasn't as good as Burgess.


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Yep got to agree Walton was superb! :wink: He should be captain because he is a leader of men and a player who will bollock and praise others. Today he was punching the ground and shaking his head because he ONLY managed to slice a shot out for a corner when attempting to clear up field. He is a born winner and he proved that when he changed peoples opinions about him against all the odds!

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 Post subject: Re: Sam Collins
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i think (or would hope) that even his severest critic could see that the bloke is a massive asset for us now.


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 Post subject: Re: Sam Collins
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Chip Fireball wrote:
Walton doesn't perform to that standard game in and game out though. He tends to have a good game or two, and then a couple of underwhelming ones.

Not sure about him being a massive asset. He'd be 50/50 to get another contract for me, on the basis I dont think he could hack it a division higher. If it came to a choice between him or Dolan at the end of the season I think I would say Dolan is the better long term prospect.


Tough call IMO. Part of the reason we are keeping clean sheets is the protection Walton gives. In the games we played Dolan and left Walton on the bench we seemed to get torn apart through the middle. Dolan is definitely the more creative of the two but then again Walton was a big part of the goals today and I think Dolan is inconsistent as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Sam Collins
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Collins deserves credit, he made 1 mistake to my knowledge n that's it. Burgess pulled him out the shit as partners do and that's it. Apart from that he was outstanding. Won everything and deserves praise .


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 Post subject: Re: Sam Collins
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This ISN'T a point about Simon Walton, but why do people assume that bollocking players for mistakes indicates that someone would make a good captain? Isn't bollocking-for-mistakes exactly what most of us object to, in Millhouse 'fans'.

Players know when they've made mistakes. Being bollocked for them, especially on the pitch, doesn't create better play.


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I think Dolan being here has meant Walton has upped his game massively.Now he has assumed the responsibility for being the holding midfielder and he seems to be enjoying it

Again a master stroke from Cooper in my opinion,to get the best out of his players!!!

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This ISN'T a point about Simon Walton, but why do people assume that bollocking players for mistakes indicates that someone would make a good captain? Isn't bollocking-for-mistakes exactly what most of us object to, in Millhouse 'fans'.

Players know when they've made mistakes. Being bollocked for them, especially on the pitch, doesn't create better play.


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Things could have been very different re Collins had Newport made us pay for his slip in the first half. However other than this I agree he played well.

Another very tidy display fron Holden too.


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Collins was playing just as well last season, difference is he's now in a team that can play further up the pitch.
Walton never used to get into positions like he did when setting up our first goal, well done to him for getting his finger out.
I thought Walker was also excellent against a very physical team, outstanding for someone of his age really.
Like has been said, our formation suit the players very well.


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Collins was playing just as well last season, difference is he's now in a team that can play further up the pitch.
Walton never used to get into positions like he did when setting up our first goal, well done to him for getting his finger out.
I thought Walker was also excellent against a very physical team, outstanding for someone of his age really.
Like has been said, our formation suit the players very well.


I havent seen us play in this diamond formation yet, are we very narrow ? How does monkhouse play in it?

Always liked the diamond but unsure if you get much width in it, i imagine the full backs provide that.

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Walton's biggest problem has always been consistency. He's got the talent, but for every good game he can have a poor one in a week or two.


I actually think fitness has been a bigger issue than consistency. He looks like he's lost a fair bit of weight compared to last season to me. He was overweight.

Two things he did on Saturday he wouldn't have had the mobility for last season, his determination to get out wide and keep the attack alive resulting in the first goal and an occasion in the second half were he sprinted 10 yards to close down a potential shot. He's covering more ground, last year he played in 20 yard square box in front of the centre backs.


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I had to rewind the highlights n check who it was doing that running and i was very happy to see walton doing the running.

He's played at a high level and if it were not for a ACL injury he'd probably still be there, talented player no doubt about it.

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Collins was playing just as well last season, difference is he's now in a team that can play further up the pitch.
Walton never used to get into positions like he did when setting up our first goal, well done to him for getting his finger out.
I thought Walker was also excellent against a very physical team, outstanding for someone of his age really.
Like has been said, our formation suit the players very well.


I havent seen us play in this diamond formation yet, are we very narrow ? How does monkhouse play in it?

Always liked the diamond but unsure if you get much width in it, i imagine the full backs provide that.


I think it suits Monkhouse perfectly. Headers won in more central areas and closer to Williams, James etc to link up with. He is always more effective coming in off the wing anyway. Wasn't sure it suited Walker to be honest but he played the role very well on Saturday. I imagine it takes some getting used to positional wise for a centre mid.

Width wise it's fine as Holden was bombing forward to great effect, will be even better with Duckworth back.

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I think the main benefit of the formation is we can play 2 players up front and not worry too much about being exposed in midfield.
Yeah, we are lot more narrow unless the full backs get forward but we've got the young players to do that.
I can't really see Austin getting back into the team, but its good to have him as cover for any position in defence.


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I think the main benefit of the formation is we can play 2 players up front and not worry too much about being exposed in midfield.
Yeah, we are lot more narrow unless the full backs get forward but we've got the young players to do that.
I can't really see Austin getting back into the team, but its good to have him as cover for any position in defence.


He was named on the team sheet on Saturday, no idea if that was a misprint or he was pulled out of the game late on.

Richards really struggled positionally first half I was stood right behind Colin Cooper for the five minutes before half time and he was saying that he was constantly dropping too deep as his first instinct, after Collins made that mistake even Cooper was critical to the rest of the bench about Richards! But I suppose Austin might struggle once Duckworth is fully fit if Holden is still playing well.


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I think the main benefit of the formation is we can play 2 players up front and not worry too much about being exposed in midfield.
Yeah, we are lot more narrow unless the full backs get forward but we've got the young players to do that.
I can't really see Austin getting back into the team, but its good to have him as cover for any position in defence.


He was named on the team sheet on Saturday, no idea if that was a misprint or he was pulled out of the game late on.

Richards really struggled positionally first half I was stood right behind Colin Cooper for the five minutes before half time and he was saying that he was constantly dropping too deep as his first instinct, after Collins made that mistake even Cooper was critical to the rest of the bench about Richards! But I suppose Austin might struggle once Duckworth is fully fit if Holden is still playing well.


Yeah I was thinking Duckworth and Holden would be 1st choice full backs.
Good to still have options tho.


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we seem to have genuine options all over the pitch. The ethos this season has definitely been to generate such a situation, and I think we'll reap the rewards now

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To be fair to Richards, he's played a relative handful of games and I'm sure him and Cooper would be the first/second to say he's still learning his game. Burgess praised him in his interview, and he stayed on the 90 and was part of a clean sheet, so maybe the odd cock-up that doesn't cost is OK as long as he's listening and learning.


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I thought Richards did fine and improved as the game went on.
But I think Duckworth has too much to offer to be left sat on the bench.


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good job dibble wasnt his manager, he would have nacked him.

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ok that was shite

the last time I seen this many options was on the pizza menu at Al Kebab's takeout

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ok that was shite

the last time I seen this many options was on the pizza menu at Al Kebab's takeout


I bet you picked the best available eleven an' all....... :laugh: :laugh:


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I'm down to 11 toppings these days


Do you take it home in a crate? Them 3mm boxes won't fit eleven toppings......unless, you eat it .....oh aye...the box is just a plate for on the way h....... bbolt


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