Caught this before coming out this morning....apparently the North East is by far the worst area of the country for drink related health problems. Speaking to people in Hartlepool, the opinion seemed to be that they drink because there's nothing elsr to do. Really....?...or just a case of not having the imagination or desire to have a interest beyond drinking....?

Are you now homosexual since this morning?

I'm as homosexual as you are funny.

Lazy journalism .. Walk around any large inner city area and find the same views..


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About as shocking as a gay female football player!


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Lazy journalism....? They ask the question and get the answer.

At least they bothered their arse to send a reporter, rather than just Googling the place.

They ask the question they broadcast the one they want.. They obviously didn't ask you or I did they? Walk up to a kid pushing a kid with a Gregg's dummy and I'd put my house on the answer I'd get!


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Probably just stood outside king johns and asked the punters coming out.

Holy shit, you must have a khaki button like a hoola hoop

It's on the Today programme on the I Player, 1 hour 44 minutes in. The reporter, a young woman, sounded like she was early 20's went to Camerons brewery and then to the Clarendon, didn't really find anything out that's not already known. As has already been said, she could have gone to any number of places and got the same responses.

You seem to be fascinated by the subject in a disturbingly obsessive way..... and fluent in the terminology....is there something we should....?

Well he's already come out once as a closet Man United sympathiser so it would come as no real shock.

To be fair I'd rather reveal I was Howard's Way.

I've made a conscious effort to cut back, and I really have, honest!!

I want to see my young un grow up, simple as that!!!

I still have mates who think they can drink like they did when in their 20's, and some still think it's some sort of consumption competition when out on the town or a weekend away. Like Parmo I've made a conscious effort over the last 10 years to cut my consumption back to sensible amounts.
I've known some really intelligent individuals who just could'nt see that the drink was slowly killing them, and it's such a shame that many people cannot seem to enjoy themselve's without a gutfull.

I know just what you mean.

Funny you saying that, because our old man would be out every Satutday at 10 in the morning shaved and suited and on the beer... and you never saw him again till Sunday morning when the whole process was repeated .....but due to the licencing laws, the pubs closed for the afternoon then so home for dinner a kip and out again nevet to be seen....and every nighr to the pub from work and home for 9.... still can't stand the smell of beer.
Funny thing is, he barred us from going to Pools because that's where he went.... even at the age of nine I was going to be an awkward sod and go...!

I was lucky then, the old man used to love taking the family out for jaunts on a Sunday. He carried that on with my youngest brother (who is 19 years younger than me) and taking him and me mam abroad and what not.

I have followed in his footsteps, our lass wants to sit around the house some days but I want to get out on a Sunday in the summer... they have no choice, we are going!!!!!

To be fair Saturdays/ away games is the only drink I have these days, family comes first for me

When I was with the wife it was the same with the bairn back then, spare time equalled days out/ holidays!!!

My Dad never bothered either ..Many a Sunday we'd be out for a walk (if he wasn't out at work) .. Although my Grandfather carried put the "Sunday" ritual as described by chip.. We used to visit and had to walk around my Nana's like mice on pain of waking him up.. Although I never saw him angry about us waking him up
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I definatly think its a generation thing as offshore says my Dad never / doesnt drink and neither does my mother. He was a legend and used to take me everywhere with him and got me into watching Pools.

My Mam's Dad however describes everything you mentioned, not knocking them about like but always in the pub. He was a steel erector and traveled all over with work earning a lot of money in those dads and to be honest they should have been very well off but my grandad pissed it up the wall even giving his mate pocket money every week to go out with him. One time on a Saturday my Nana was in town doing the shopping when my grandad (who was working away) mate came up and said "nice to see Alberts home!" my nana didnt have a clue what he was on about and said he was away, his mate replied "oh well he has been in the pub and my house from Thursday".

yeah that was the norm back then, when you hear the stories

Blokes with "women in every port" so to speak

Women have fuck all to complain about today, in comparison to how the vast majority of them were treated years ago!!!!

I also remember he went out to get my nana a fish once for dinner at 9 and the shop didnt open till ten so he hung about. This was over Christmas and being a drinker he knew everyone and saw a mate who asked him round his house for a new year drink. He went and then back to shop but on way home kept bumping into people he knew all offering him a drink. He didnt get back till 5 and my nana was mental. She kept going on at him and he hit her round the face with the fish telling her to shut up. Wouldnt have been a nice image but my mam cant tell the story without pissing herself.

I have been drinking with him twice once in the five lamps and once in Hardwick social club and never again. Me after my first year at uni thinking I was billy big bollocks and could drink. Walked in and had to pay 20p as wasnt a member and my nana went in the lounge as no women allowed in the bar. I sat down got told to move as was in some blokes seat (he wasnt even in the place and didnt come in for another 2 hours) I was sat watching the footy and after about 5 minutes my grandad asked if I wanted another (i was only half way down) so necked it and said yeah. The same thing happened when he came back for second then his mate got up and said do you want a rum chaser with your next. Me being an idiot said yes and this was repeaded a couple of times. I was in there for about 2 hours and was drunk as a lord, my nana had a go at my grandad. All his mates did this every day and two have had heart bypasses. My grandads response "Boy drinking with men!" I vowed after that day when I have kids never to do this.

I also went to play snooker during this time and put my money on the table, before it landed a bloke asked "what are you doing and who the fuck are you!" I said was going to play next as it was winner stays on and I was Alberts grandson, he said "oh thats ok then, but you need to write your name on the board". I did and hammered this guy and then I asked "right who's next" His response was "me as your names not on the board and mine is and you need to FUCK OFF!"

I didnt have to be told twice.

I remember in the 70s reports in the papers stating Hartlepool was the drinking capital of England, think Wigan was a close second. Difference then was most people were working and drinking, now for many its just drinking. Is it the drink that kills them or the combination of drinking and inactivity?.

A sedentary lifestyle definitely doesn't do you any favours if you're a drinker. When you think how much fitter the average gadgie was due to most work being manual it isn't surprising that drink-related deaths are on the up.

I'm lucky in that my dad and both my grandads liked a drink but I never saw them shitfaced or aggressive. Plenty of my extended family were drunken arseholes though and a few of them found their way into early graves.

My uncle George was a nice bloke, but couldn't stay out of the Catholic Club. He earned a decent wage as a welder, and eventually went down to three days a week so he could spend four in the club. I don't think he made it to sixty.

And another one of my uncles is a complete and utter 'lovely lovely person' who has drunk heavily all his life, yet is still walking about without a care.

Apart from my period as a landlord for 3 years, where because I didn`t drink they thought I was a puff!, I haven`t been in a pub for a drink for 25 years, I get by great without the stuff, don`t need it for medicinal purposes or to help me sleep, forget my worries and cares, or have a good time.

When I had the pub, It amazed me the amount some would sink in a short period of time, finish work on a friday at 3 and have 12 bottles of dog before tea, out again at 7 until closing, most of sat and sun also.
The all day tradition of bank holiday drinking also and towing the kids along, where you had to tell the kids to get out the toilets, off the machines and stop running because the parents were busy drinking

Having lost four clem since September the 24th I neither eat nor drink so will youse all fuck off starting Scran and Beer threads yerkuntz? Thanks.

Interestingly Hartlepool doesn't feature in the top ten of either unemployment or alcohol related deaths. Sorry to dissapoint you.
Interestingly a lot of the 'top' places for both are in the North West, they always come to to North East for these features though. Interestingly a Town that features in both is Hastings. I think the truth is most Towns and Cities in England now face the same problems as each other and as much as you like to slag Hartlepool off at every opportunity below the surface aren't that different.

And a truly magnificent effort, young man.

PS....and well done Phil!!!!

Lost my true soul mate to alcohol.

Disappoint me