Collins

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26119459

Just slightly different from a certain old striker we had.....

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born toulouse · **Posted:** Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:09 pm

His attitude seems to have been impressive for a member of the once notorious Yorkshire mafia. Monkhouse as well. Have things changed because Don Ritchie got the text in the night or was the whole thing bollocks?

alleztfc · **Posted:** Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:14 pm

The latter. A definite smokescreen dating back to the dark days under Hughes.

pde147 · **Joined:** Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:12 pm **Posts:** 95

The dark days were on Cooper's watch.

I know you had a massive down on him for reasons that seem to predate his involvement at Pools but John Hughes stewardship was a great improvement.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Poor hughes, comes in when we're shite, gets no money to sign anyone, gets saddled with a relegation on his cv then gets accused of the days being dark under him, strange comment alletz.

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

Hughes' problem was he talked such utter nonsense.

And I DO believe it was the same in the changing room as well.

parmo · **Posted:** Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:47 pm

what this proves once and for all.. is how well Colin Cooper has done to get the unity at the club, and get them playing good football again, and working hard for each other

I don't care about the past now, we can't do fuck all about it (as irksome as it was for all of us) - what is important is that we have a manager here who has picked everything up and got our squad to be a decent football team on a Saturday once again

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Yubep wrote:

Poor hughes, comes in when we're shite, gets no money to sign anyone, gets saddled with a relegation on his cv then gets accused of the days being dark under him, strange comment alletz.

As sad is it is to say the dark days that ultimately led to relegation were under Neale Cooper. From spunking much of his summer transfer budget on Stevie Statue to completely losing the dressing room. We were as shambolic rabble and a complete embarrassment at the start of last season. I don't think Collins has been a problem since Cooper resigned and his form and attitude in the back half of last season were both good.

horden · **Posted:** Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:35 pm

N Cooper was a disaster and should never have been allowed to return.

bob newtons ego · **Joined:** Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:11 pm **Posts:** 9

thought Hughes got a rough deal no money for loans or permanent signings,would be interesting to see his stats against Colin Coopers who has had funds made available,as for Hughes talking shite,must be the same book of shite football quotes used by present management team,they all pretty much the same?

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:28 pm

MadJohn wrote:

Of course Hughes was in League One as well. I think he did a good job in awful circumstances

This!!!! ^^^^

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:45 pm

MadJohn wrote:

Hughes's record stands up very well against Colin Cooper's. Very similar.

JH: 29 league games. W8 D9 L12
CC: 30 league games. W10 D8 L12

They even followed similar patterns. Bad first six games followed by a great run of form for 10-12 with monthly awards for player and manager, then around 8-10 games of disappointing results. Both won two of their last four games.

Of course Hughes was in League One as well. I think he did a good job in awful circumstances

That's quite surprising. Hughes did remarkably well considering the lack of any investment. Had he been given the backing cc had then who knows, we may still have been in league 1 right now. Admittedly the football may not have been so good like.

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PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

I don't think the bloke was Jose Mourinho or anything he had some coaching ability, got the squad a bit more together and a bit more organised.

He was hung out to dry and not given any backing whatsoever it was clear from about the middle of March that he was getting sacked whatever happened. Dibble said he talked rubbish, I got the impression he was making things up as he went along as he no relationship with Green or Hodcroft. He couldn't even arrange a meeting with them.... I'm glad he's back in work but I'm happier where we are now and much happier with Colin Cooper in charge.

parmo · **Posted:** Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:24 am

the results don't tell the whole picture though, because we will get better results in future under CC. He is easily a better football manager, and for me a better man manager - he has got the team playing the game, and worth going to watch at long last

wearman · **Joined:** Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:17 pm **Posts:** 43

Cc doing well so far. Must say thought Hughes did a great job with what he had. But seasons not over so we will see. It all comes down to money and will cooper be allowed to spend.

BigJeffy · **Posted:** Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:45 pm

Anyone got stats for J Hughes time in charge when Howard didn't feature ? I bet his win to loss ratio sky rockets ! E.g great run in Feb 2013 when SH(ite) was injured/suspended. You have to remember he inheirited the big useless cart horse.

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:13 pm

Speaking of Stevie Statue I see he still hasn't decided which of the many many offers he had on the table to take up.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

I really want that to be his last ever game, it's the poetic justice we deserve after he shafted us out of a wage for a year n a half.

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parmo · **Posted:** Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:44 pm

can't believe folks are mentioning Hughes in the same breath as Colin Cooper like!! Have folks not got eyes?

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