so we are all right then?

Wow!!!!

So they didn't lose three wickets for one run!!?

Plus that was only a flippant (but factually true) remark as I was trying to say Brad Haddin has been the actual major difference not really the tail. The Aussie total was all about the 6th wicket partnership today, not the fifty or sixty the lower order added batting with Smith.

There it is

Added, the last three wicket FELL for one run. If you don't understand how that is factually correct I feel for you.

Factually correct??

The last 3 wickets fell for 57 runs. This is factually correct. Only 1 of us can be correct.

269-7 to 326 all out Is all the facts that anyone would need. Harris scored double figures and didnt come in till the last 3 wickets yet somehow these runs don't count.
This is the last time I will write this. School starts next Monday if you can wait that long.

In other news its Saturday tomorrow

Haddin has had a great series but for England to have Australia at, on average, 141-5 in the first innings and not dismiss them for less than 200 at least once is a feeble effort. Haddin has done well but he can only occupy one end at a time.

The worst thing about your nit picking arguing for arguments sake because it's me tirade here is I posted that the last three wickets fell for one run, which they did (in the same over actually, I actually said earlier in the thread Smith was out in the over after) quite flippantly to highlight that I think it's Haddin that has been the major difference in the series and not really tail end runs. I think Haddin's runs have had a demoralising effect on our bowling attack and we've looked tired and beaten letting some of the lower order have some fun. Haddin has paved the way for them to do that.

Amusingly as you posted the above, you actually appear agree with the point I was trying to make

That made me laugh.
Further proof that PJ is just out for an argument.

Is it right that the Aussies where singing can we play you every week?


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Waiting for PJ to say oh no it's not. I do like a good panto

Look out..............behind you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just one word to describe this argument, semantics. Yes the last three wickets added 57 runs, yes the last 3 wickets fell for 1 run. Both are true.

And can we agree that we're totally in the shit again simply because we're poorly lead and it's time for changes right through the organisation??

We've had our day and it was very enjoyable, but it's over. Time to rebuild.

Yeah, PJ, I know I know nowt.

Hey don't forget Dibble he was involved as well and I certainly don't have any respect for his views.

Jesus fucking wept.
Cook not even using his bat now.

Can this really get any worse.

Bell dropped first ball as well.

Come on pj give me the positives now.

It will be finished tomorrow, that is a positive.

They are bowling superbly well it's got to be said. We're just gone, mentally shot.

Nice broken digit for Anderson as well by the looks of it!

I could bowl well if the batsmen dont bother using their bats.

I bet aussies are literally pissing their pants laughing

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The way the batsman have played in this series if I was Jimmy Anderson and they asked me to go nightwatchman I'd tell them to fuck right off. He's shown some courage here but I'd be sending an actual batsman out to face this bowling and not risk getting my leading bowler injured.

We bowled shite on this pitch as well thpugh.

So maybe the bowlers should be forced to face what they should have dished out.

Anderson out now anyway.

14 for 3.

I'm glad he's out he was going to get hurt.

Agree with that Chip, sending Anderson out was just stupid.

Let's have a sweep on the score.

I'm going 64 all out.

Stupidly has ruled on this tour.

410 all out.

Call me positive pete.

Oh fook. I meant 41.

17 for 4..

Hilarious

We could be following on before lunch.
Whats our lowest ever total?

Graham Onions bowls the perfect length for this pitch he 'd have taken a bagful on it.

Have we ever lost a Test in two days?

Utter Dross ... thank God for Durham the home of English Cricket..

Well another day of comedy farce ends. Geeat stuff.

And despite us taking a few wickets our bowlers stiill go for 5 an over.

Easily the worst england touring team in my life time.

An utter joke and embarrassment.

Cook should be sacked as xaptain.

And all management need to go.

A bottleless ramshackle effort all round.

I must admit I fail to see how a few key individuals can hang on to their roles after this. You don't tend to lose 5-0 to a team that is no better than yourselves and live to tell the tale.

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People saying Cook should be sacked as captain.

Who replaces him?

Because 5 Test matches ago he was going to be England captain for the long term.

If he thinks the captaincy is linked to his batting form then I'd consider a change but I'm still struggling with a natural replacement.

I see the halfwit behind the stumps managed to make us concede 7 runs in one ball !!

If I was Alastair Cook, I'd wait for the declaration. Go in, face the first ball, declare (assuming he survives the first ball), drop me gruds and wave Big Bob and the Twins at the pavillion and run for the airport because it's the only way he'll come out with any dignity.

He'll have a long wait at the airport as they still have over a month of Cricket left in Australia

Anyway we're going to win this Test, 386 for 5 will be our run chase.

I am really shit at New Years resolutions so I am disappointed but not surprised to be back on the crackpipe by January 4th.

Back to the building and loans for you George Bailey.

Come on England!!!!!!!












Seriously I bet we get Haddin out for nothing here when it doesn't matter at all.

He deserves a day off anyway.

Haddin seems to be showing a lot of respect for Rankin's bowling.

I don't think I've ever seen a more half hearted debutant. An awful pick for this tour.

He looks so far away from a test match bowler it's frightening. Thankfully he won't play another test after this unless the selectors keep up the glue sniffing. If we don't give Onions a chance in future then there is something seriously wrong.

An awful tour, but I hope we keep flower and cook, at least they have some class

Around the same time Flower was standing up against Mugabe, Lehman was hurling racist abuse after being ran out in Sri Lanka that sums them both up as people

Ps another duck for Bairstow , please drop this clown now and put him out of his misery

This tour needs to be the last we see of Panesar, Prior and Carberry, and Bairstow needs to go back to county cricket and prove he is capable.

We need Bell at 3, back Stokes as he is the only bright spot, give Root more time in the home series v India and bring back Onions and give him a proper chance. I'd also bring back Nick Compton.

Anderson and Broad need kicking in the bollocks and told in no uncertain terms that they aren't as good as they think they are and to come back down to earth or fuck off. Oh and Pietterson needs a lobotomy.

I agree with Boycott when he said it is far worse than losing 5-0 previously because then they had genuine world beaters in McGrath, Warne and Gilchrist. This Aussie side isn't as good as we have made them look.

I'm not sure I believe in a captain who when asked for his reaction to a 5-0 humiliation, capitulation and disintegration states "I feel pretty chastened". Not exactly fighting spirit and inspirational leadership. Lovely fella and a very good cricketer but he's not in the same league as Vaughan, Atherton or Straus. I think Cook is probably too close personnally to some of the players and that makes it much harder for him to lead them in real adversity.

I hope Flower stays as he has been brilliant for England cricket and we need to have a complete overhaul because this has been coming for a few years. The core of this team peaked in the summer, possibly before that, it needs change in players and attitude. We failed on pretty basic cricket skills such as don't give away your wicket, take catches and pick your best players to suit the conditions.

Disgraceful performance. We lasted 190 balls. This is a Fukn test match. Its a complete embarrassment and 1 of many on this tour. So glad this is over

Don't agree that we should have or have seen the last of Prior. He is a proven top class performer you don't just discard someone like him because of form at the age of 31, he could easily have four or five years left in him, Haddin is 36 and has been in and out of the Australian team at times.

Panesar still has his uses in the right conditions and is still the best spinner in the country.

Can't agree on Compton either, a limited player who scores too slowly. He looked out of his depth mentally when an average New Zealand team put him under pressure. I'd rather we persevered with Joe Root, he has the potential to be top class. Bairtsow does need to go back to county cricket (were he already has a superb record) because he's had his chance for now.

I'm not sure what Cook is meant to say to be honest rather than give the Aussies credit, admit we were poor and apologise to the supporters. He can come out of the other side of this a better captain, Clarke lost a four match series in India last year 4-0 remember and 3-0 here although the performance reached nowhere near the depths England's has. But he has been left with half a team almost in the last couple of Tests especially, I'm not sure what a captain can do when a bowling attack is completely all over all of your batsmen. He's had a tough job to discard him after one tough, disastrous series is a bit short sighted in my opinion.

If Flower is staying the bowling and batting coaches need changing, they've not made an impact in this series and maybe some of the more experienced players need to hear a different voice. As does any selector who had anything to do with picking the squad in the first place.

I'm sure we'll come back well in the summer.

Stokes was top of the batting averages and Borthwick top of the bowling/ Can't understand why Borthwick didn't bowl more overs.