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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:07 pm 
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Was a well deserved win for the best visitors I've seen this year.. :D


Did none of them say "the fookin jammy bastads scoring with the last kick of the match"?
I'd be surprised it they hadn't.

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What a feeling that was. There fans were silent throughout then made some noise with a minute to go and basically pissed me off. We battered them for a vast amount of that game and we have never deserved a last minute goal more. We even hit the bar before the goal to make it even more special when it went in.

Overall I thought we were excellent. I thought Baldwin was just head and shoulders above everyone on the pitch and just defended so easily. I also thought like James caused no end of problems up top by himself. James Poole was also a huge thorn on there side and we just kept attacking. Franks saw an obscene amount of the ball but every single time only used his right foot and went outside, it became obvious to the entire ground what was going to happen. In fairness he for a fair few in and scored the winner which was a brilliant finish. Rodney was ok 1st half but in the 2nd was very poor and he had to go off. Dolan was outstanding throughout and along with Baldwin was my man of the match.

Best justice ever that though, in actually glad they levelled just for that feeling of the winner.

Overall as a team we battered them, I forgot to mention duckworth was again faultless. Brilliant belated Xmas box

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What a feeling that was. There fans were silent throughout then made some noise with a minute to go and basically pissed me off. We battered them for a vast amount of that game and we have never deserved a last minute goal more. We even hit the bar before the goal to make it even more special when it went in.

Overall I thought we were excellent. I thought Baldwin was just head and shoulders above everyone on the pitch and just defended so easily. I also thought like James caused no end of problems up top by himself. James Poole was also a huge thorn on there side and we just kept attacking. Franks saw an obscene amount of the ball but every single time only used his right foot and went outside, it became obvious to the entire ground what was going to happen. In fairness he for a fair few in and scored the winner which was a brilliant finish. Rodney was ok 1st half but in the 2nd was very poor and he had to go off. Dolan was outstanding throughout and along with Baldwin was my man of the match.

Best justice ever that though, in actually glad they levelled just for that feeling of the winner.

Overall as a team we battered them, I forgot to mention duckworth was again faultless. Brilliant belated Xmas box

Thank you pools

sounds like a cracking match, glad you enjoyed it clappp

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Average age of pools team today was just 22. Great stuff that

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was at a christening all day, so just seeing anything about the match now. as he's a rare starter, can anyone tell me if Rodney did ok ? looks like he has raw pace, but if he can push on he'd be a good asset from the bench.


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Id say from the bench maybe. 1st half ok, 2nd half really poor


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Average age of pools team today was just 22. Great stuff that


That is unreal and very good to see


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was at a christening all day, so just seeing anything about the match now. as he's a rare starter, can anyone tell me if Rodney did ok ? looks like he has raw pace, but if he can push on he'd be a good asset from the bench.


Just got back from the match. Great day out, especially the scenes at the end when we got the winner, awesome.

To answer your question I thought Rodney was a liability today. Hate to pick on individual performances but Rodney was dire. His touch was terrible and his positional play was no better. You could see in the second half players were hesitant to pass to him he was that bad. Shame but for me he's not league standard football.

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Rodney isn't a footballer and won't be while I have a hole in my arse. Fact.

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Rodney isn't a footballer and won't be while I have a hole in my arse. Fact.

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He is. Plays for Hartlepool United. How's the bag holding up?


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returnofaido wrote:
was at a christening all day, so just seeing anything about the match now. as he's a rare starter, can anyone tell me if Rodney did ok ? looks like he has raw pace, but if he can push on he'd be a good asset from the bench.


Just got back from the match. Great day out, especially the scenes at the end when we got the winner, awesome.

To answer your question I thought Rodney was a liability today. Hate to pick on individual performances but Rodney was dire. His touch was terrible and his positional play was no better. You could see in the second half players were hesitant to pass to him he was that bad. Shame but for me he's not league standard football.

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returnofaido wrote:
was at a christening all day, so just seeing anything about the match now. as he's a rare starter, can anyone tell me if Rodney did ok ? looks like he has raw pace, but if he can push on he'd be a good asset from the bench.


Just got back from the match. Great day out, especially the scenes at the end when we got the winner, awesome.

To answer your question I thought Rodney was a liability today. Hate to pick on individual performances but Rodney was dire. His touch was terrible and his positional play was no better. You could see in the second half players were hesitant to pass to him he was that bad. Shame but for me he's not league standard football.

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Dire? With respect, you're a fucking bell end.


Apart from your usual abuse how about some feed back on how he actually did for those of us not there?

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Good day out.

Weird ground, very small for a new stadium.

Good performance by the whole team, hard to pick out a bad performance, Rodney put in a good shift and considering his lack of experience did well.

Burgess and Baldwin both turned in MOTM performances, the midfield looks sharper without Walton and our attacking players made their defence worry about everything. Over the moon Franks got the winner after hitting the bar.

If Cooper can get this side to be a bit more clinical in front of goal (we easily had enough chances to win it at a canter) then it will go up, and if it doesn't the vultures will be circling for a few of our (and at least one of Boro's) players.

For the benefit of anyone connected to Middlesbrough FC Burgess and Dolan were actually shit and you should just sack them.

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Good day out.

Weird ground, very small for a new stadium.

Good performance by the whole team, hard to pick out a bad performance, Rodney put in a good shift and considering his lack of experience did well.

Burgess and Baldwin both turned in MOTM performances, the midfield looks sharper without Walton and our attacking players made their defence worry about everything. Over the moon Franks got the winner after hitting the bar.

If Cooper can get this side to be a bit more clinical in front of goal (we easily had enough chances to win it at a canter) then it will go up, and if it doesn't the vultures will be circling for a few of our (and at least one of Boro's) players.

For the benefit of anyone connected to Middlesbrough FC Burgess and Dolan were actually shit and you should just sack them.


Was Ellison any good for them? Always looks a donkey to me but comes up with some cracking goals

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Rodney played very well for the first twenty minutes, being an integral part of most of the excellent passing moves up to that point. He drifted out of the game for a while whilst a lot of the play was down the right side, then gradually saw a bit more of the ball in the early part of the second half including being part of the best move of the game when he broke into the box after great work by Poole and Franks. He faded a bit before being subbed, but he obviously isn't going to be a regular 90 minute player just yet.

Ellison did nowt..in fact! Morecambe did nowt!


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Apart from your usual abuse how about some feed back on how he actually did for those of us not there?

one of the Morecambe fans had him down as our best player...

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He played very well for the first twenty minutes, being an integral part of most of the excellent passing moves up to that point. He drifted out of the game for a while whilst a lot of the play was down the right side, then gradually saw a bit more of the ball in the early part of the second half including being part of the best move of the game when he broke into the box after great work by Poole and Franks. He faded a bit before being subbed, but he obviously isn't going to be a regular 90 minute player just yet.


Cheers, pools world made it sound like he was taking them on for fun in the first 30 mins

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He was. Obviously not good enough evidence for those labelling him a liability and having holes in their arses. Bunch of not nice people.


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Was Ellison any good for them? Always looks a donkey to me but comes up with some cracking goals


Ellison was fucking dreadful, big clogger with the touch of a rapist. He spent a lot of time on the right against Duckworth and did nothing.

I'd rather have had Steve Howard in my side.

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He was. Obviously not good enough evidence for those labelling him a liability and having holes in their arses. Bunch of not nice people.


You should know by now some people need a player to slag off.

Rodney won't be getting many offers from Premier League sides but he offered a fuck load more than some of the sacks of shite the club have paid big money to over the last few years.

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Just got back from the match. Great day out, especially the scenes at the end when we got the winner, awesome.

To answer your question I thought Rodney was a liability today. Hate to pick on individual performances but Rodney was dire. His touch was terrible and his positional play was no better. You could see in the second half players were hesitant to pass to him he was that bad. Shame but for me he's not league standard football.

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An ever-so-slight exaggeration, or rather a huge one. Rodney had a poor few minutes just before being subbed, but he had a decent enough first half for someone who hasn't played much. He was a long way from dire, and was actually rated our best player by a couple of Morecambe fans. I thought they were well off the mark too, but the truth lies somewhere between these two extremes of opinion.



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was at a christening all day, so just seeing anything about the match now. as he's a rare starter, can anyone tell me if Rodney did ok ? looks like he has raw pace, but if he can push on he'd be a good asset from the bench.


Just got back from the match. Great day out, especially the scenes at the end when we got the winner, awesome.

To answer your question I thought Rodney was a liability today. Hate to pick on individual performances but Rodney was dire. His touch was terrible and his positional play was no better. You could see in the second half players were hesitant to pass to him he was that bad. Shame but for me he's not league standard football.

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Dire? With respect, fuck right off.


I thought I was been kind calling his performance dire. What did he actually do in the game then? What did he offer down the left? Give me one example. Just one.
Yes he did a lot of running but that was mostly after his own miss controlled first touch.


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He watched a different Nialle Rodney to the one I saw today.

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alienlife wrote:
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He was. Obviously not good enough evidence for those labelling him a liability and having holes in their arses. Bunch of not nice people.


You should know by now some people need a player to slag off.

Rodney won't be getting many offers from Premier League sides but he offered a fuck load more than some of the sacks of shite the club have paid big money to over the last few years.


I thought the team performance today was nothing short of awesome. We attacked at every opportunity and exploited the space on the wings to great affect. It's just my opinion that Rodney was the weak link in the chain by some margin, I know it's his first game in a while but nothing he has shown me when given the opportunity has changed my mind that that he just can't cut it at this level in our team.

I don't need a player to slag off, it was a positive team performance, it was asked how he performed and I thought he was well below what we require.

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Of all the people who post opinions about players and performances on here, I trust Mad John the most. His rating of Rodney is good enough for me, and I really hope he is one who proves the boo boys wrong.

I find it hard to be objective when watching Pools, as I get too wound up and absorbed in the game. Unless someone plays really well or has a stinker I can't usually form a reliable opinion on them.

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their messageboard is making him man of the match, as well as being very complimentary about the whole team.


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I thought I was been kind calling his performance dire. What did he actually do in the game then? What did he offer down the left? Give me one example. Just one.
Yes he did a lot of running but that was mostly after his own miss controlled first touch.


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The DVD will no doubt be on sale after such a fine win but from memory...

His first three or four passes in the opening five minutes were part of the moves that made our start so dominant. About eight minutes in he won the ball back after Dolan lost it and played a short pass to Walker which he then spread out to Franks who won a corner. He also won a good header around the same time which made me comment that he hadn't put a foot wrong up to that point. That takes care of the first ten minutes....if he'd have stopped there, it still wouldn't warrant the word Dire....


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Before everyone gets over excited. Rodney when on the left wasnt that bad however when he moved centrally and his touch and awareness came into play he was piss poor. He isn't the answer to any 1st team spot but could offer something in reserve . This is the actual truth and to stick up for folk who were there 2nd half he was diabolical. However as a squad player he may offer something with his pace as we have no attacking options whatsoever


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Apart from your usual abuse how about some feed back on how he actually did for those of us not there?

one of the Morecambe fans had him down as our best player...


And for every Morecambe fan who said that today there will be a loid who thought he was not good enough for their pub team.

I will trust my own judgement. If other people have a different opinion of his ability then that is fine.


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I think Cooper is doing a hell of a lot right and we are seeing continual improvement as the young 'uns get more experience.

This is good enough for me to put my faith in him and if he wants to start Rodney I will back him to the hilt. Cooper doesn't get everything right (see eccentric formation at Cheltenham), but he seems to learn from his mistakes and I'm very happy to have him as our manager.

Compare the feeling as a Poolie to this time last year and the difference is huge. We had won one league game and were knocked out of all the cups at the first hurdle. We couldn't create a single chance during a game let alone score, and there was absolutely no team spirit in the squad.

If we don't make the play-offs this season I reckon we'll go up automatically next year, even if some of our better players get snapped up by other clubs.

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Grave wrote:
misterb2001 wrote:
Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

Apart from your usual abuse how about some feed back on how he actually did for those of us not there?

one of the Morecambe fans had him down as our best player...


And for every Morecambe fan who said that today there will be a loid who thought he was not good enough for their pub team.

I will trust my own judgement. If other people have a different opinion of his ability then that is fine.


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What do you base your judgement on he's barely played, I think it was 90 odd minutes combined before today all season.

He played a grand total of 45 minutes for Darlington FC (not A1(M)) while they were in the Conference at an away game at Braintree or something, probably attended by about 7 away fans and I doubt any of the no nothing gobshite deluded goons commenting were anywhere near that game. I'd rather trust Colin Cooper who obviously thinks he's worth a bit of a go. He hardly seems a disruptive influence with a bad attitude he has waited for his chance even though before today he's had more than ten minutes about twice.

By all accounts he played well in the first half an hour, which if you look at the games we win they are the games we start well and score first in. So he's played a part and did a job when when called upon and contributed to a good win.


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Grave wrote:
misterb2001 wrote:
Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

Apart from your usual abuse how about some feed back on how he actually did for those of us not there?

one of the Morecambe fans had him down as our best player...


And for every Morecambe fan who said that today there will be a loid who thought he was not good enough for their pub team.

I will trust my own judgement. If other people have a different opinion of his ability then that is fine.


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you still can't bring yourself to admit Flinders is a good keeper, you made a rather hasty judgement on him too and stubbornly refused to admit you were wrong (and you WERE wrong) :wink:

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I tell you what as well fuck singling out young players as being worst on the pitch when we've won.

It's great reading about four or five sets of fans say lately we are the best footballing team they've seen all season, or the best visitors to there home ground.

This was from Morecambe's official site;

"Morecambe were forced to defend for long periods against an excellent, young Hartlepool side"

Average age of 22 today, playing the game the right way, take yourself back 12 months when it was fucking depressing.


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[quote="Tree_With_Hamster"]

Apart from your usual abuse how about some feed back on how he actually did for those of us not there?

one of the Morecambe fans had him down as our best player...


And for every Morecambe fan who said that today there will be a loid who thought he was not good enough for their pub team.

I will trust my own judgement. If other people have a different opinion of his ability then that is fine.


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you still can't bring yourself to admit Flinders is a good keeper, you made a rather hasty judgement on him too and stubbornly refused to admit you were wrong (and you WERE wrong) :wink:[/quote]

Flinders is a league 2 goalkeeper. No better no worse. He has conceded a number of soft goals but also made some decent saves.

I will stand by my judgement of Rodney. If i am proved wrong then that will do nicely. I am certainly not alone in believing he isn't good enough. The other young players we have are typically very promising. Not convinced about Richards but the rest will do well.

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Flinders is a league 2 goalkeeper. No better no worse. He has conceded a number of soft goals but also made some decent saves.



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Even if we win all 5 games in January and Rodney scores a fookin hat-trick every game the poor lad will still get a hammering. Give him a chance, he's giving it a go. Probably had his fair share of knocks over time but it shows character to come back and persevere.


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Apart from your usual abuse how about some feed back on how he actually did for those of us not there?[/quote]
one of the Morecambe fans had him down as our best player...[/quote]

And for every Morecambe fan who said that today there will be a loid who thought he was not good enough for their pub team.

I will trust my own judgement. If other people have a different opinion of his ability then that is fine.


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you still can't bring yourself to admit Flinders is a good keeper, you made a rather hasty judgement on him too and stubbornly refused to admit you were wrong (and you WERE wrong) :wink:[/quote]

Flinders is a league 2 goalkeeper. No better no worse. He has conceded a number of soft goals but also made some decent saves.

I will stand by my judgement of Rodney. If i am proved wrong then that will do nicely. I am certainly not alone in believing he isn't good enough. The other young players we have are typically very promising. Not convinced about Richards but the rest will do well.

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Flinders is far too good for this level. Stevie wonder could see that one

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Bog standard league 2 keeper, when he gets this big move to a Championship team and becomes a regular il admit I got it wrong. But for now no one wants him and after seeing today's latest howler, it's no surprise.

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Bog standard league 2 keeper, when he gets this big move to a Championship team and becomes a regular il admit I got it wrong. But for now no one wants him and after seeing today's latest howler, it's no surprise.


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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
Bog standard league 2 keeper, when he gets this big move to a Championship team and becomes a regular il admit I got it wrong. But for now no one wants him and after seeing today's latest howler, it's no surprise.


You forgot to log in and out again.



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Good finish from franks that!

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There fans were silent throughout then made some noise with a minute to go and basically pissed me off


You are easily annoyed!

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Ritchies birthmark wrote:
There fans were silent throughout then made some noise with a minute to go and basically pissed me off


You are easily annoyed!


They had just equalised so the pissed off levels were slightly high


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Rodney has MacKay syndrome... unless he tailors his game more towards the team then he's not going to make it. I get the impression he doesn't know himself what he's gonna do next!!!!

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Flinders is a league 2 goalkeeper. No better no worse. He has conceded a number of soft goals but also made some decent saves.



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1. That description could also apply to Joe Hart, who is not a League 2 goalkeeper.

2. Was S Flinders a League 2 goalkeeper last season, when he was in League 1?


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Some have an opinion on a player and rather than see the good they pick on every negative.

A few times yesterday Rodney's touch evaded him, but he recovered well mostly. He was sharper than Walton would have been and when you have a player like Poole in the side anyones touch will look shit.

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1st half Rodney was ok. Hard to single him out for any criticism. 2nd half he wasnt at the races and was poor. Overall he certainly wasnt man of the match but wasnt as shit as some folk are making out. My assessment of him was squad player who will be useful for the last 20-30 mins of games. His pace is very good.


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He did say in his interview that his legs were shot after an hour. It was probably the highest paced game he's ever played in and it was probably a huge ask for him to replace Monky.

Bit harsh to slag him off on his first start, but it seems to be the way it is.

If Flinders is a shit keeper, why have we got a positive goal difference? Why does his manager say he's the best in the lower leagues?

I'm really curious, because I haven't heard anyone slag Cooper off for a good few months.


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He did say in his interview that his legs were shot after an hour. It was probably the highest paced game he's ever played in and it was probably a huge ask for him to replace Monky.

Bit harsh to slag him off on his first start, but it seems to be the way it is.

If Flinders is a shit keeper, why have we got a positive goal difference? Why does his manager say he's the best in the lower leagues?

I'm really curious, because I haven't heard anyone slag Cooper off for a good few months.


We also had a manager claim ALB was the best in the lower leagues.

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How did walker do btw?

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