Where is POK when you need him

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

The Fat Man wrote:

Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:

When you son is older, and he is at school, and maybe playing for the school footy team etc......you will understand some things better.

When you have kids, they say things how they are, especially ones that watch the Inbetweeners.

The lasses at his school all love Daley, and during the Olympics, he said so. He also said, most of the lads think hes a bender anyway, and take the piss out of the lasses for fancying him. :laugh:

Kids eh?

And as I watched the Olympics, he did rather mince his way round the swimming pool, a bit like Mr I. (A bit of a giveaway?)

See?

I'm not buying that. He does it for you, doesn't he.

Is it that Obvious?

grabec · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:17 pm

alienlife wrote:

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From what I know most in Tom Daley's generation won't give a stuff.

The media and old stuffy people are too set on putting people into boxes whether that is based on colour, race, sexuality or some other characteristic. Yet when you peel back this superficial tat we are all the same and if everyone looked at other people as just another member of the human race rather than having to hang a label on them.

I don't really think there's a youth/age divide here, alien. Not as far as being gay is concerned. Look at the gay bullying that goes on in playgrounds and via text messages...and the resulting suicides.

alienlife · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:18 pm

It's a fucking sad reflection on society when a young man being a homosexual or bisexual or to be honest shagging anyone is deemed newsworthy.

We also must be very dull to be discussing it, what next a story where Rio Ferdinand comes out as black or Amir Khan as a Muslim?

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

I am surprised so many of you cant see what Alienlife and I see.

He is just a media hungry little faggot, looking to get his next gig.

Like all the one before him, and all the ones that will follow.

I did notice on the BBC this morning that an "expert"

has used this story to have a go at football again, and its lack of gay players.

The Fat Man · **Joined:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:03 pm **Posts:** 2107

alienlife wrote:

It's a fucking sad reflection on society when a young man being a homosexual or bisexual or to be honest shagging anyone is deemed newsworthy.

We also must be very dull to be discussing it, what next a story where Rio Ferdinand comes out as black or Amir Khan as a Muslim?

I think Rio coming out as a footballer would be more newsworthy.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Think he has a new series of 'splash' soon on Saturday Nights. How on earth its entertianment seeing 'celebrities' jump of a diving board is beyond me.

alienlife · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:20 pm

grabec wrote:

I don't really think there's a youth/age divide here, alien. Not as far as being gay is concerned. Look at the gay bullying that goes on in playgrounds and via text messages...and the resulting suicides.

It's more acceptable amongst many young people, at least more than it was 15/20 years ago. You'll always get nasty people in schools and sadly they just have more ways to get at their victims, I'm not sure that the gay bullying is as much to do with homosexuality as the way that groups and cliques still exist and very few are brought up capable of seeing people as human beings.

alienlife · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:21 pm

The Fat Man wrote:

alienlife wrote:

It's a fucking sad reflection on society when a young man being a homosexual or bisexual or to be honest shagging anyone is deemed newsworthy.

We also must be very dull to be discussing it, what next a story where Rio Ferdinand comes out as black or Amir Khan as a Muslim?

I think Rio coming out as a footballer would be more newsworthy.

A bit far fetched though, more chance of Tom Daley being elected Mayor of Hartlepool...........

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

grabec wrote:

I don't really think there's a youth/age divide here, alien. Not as far as being gay is concerned. Look at the gay bullying that goes on in playgrounds and via text messages...and the resulting suicides.

Can you show me where this happens?

There is a lad at St Hilds now, who everyone knows is gay. He is not picked on or bullied in the slightest. Not by anyone. And there are some troublesome lads at that school.

The kids are more tolerant than most give them credit for.

alienlife · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:25 pm

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

Think he has a new series of 'splash' soon on Saturday Nights..

Boom there it is.

His sexuality isn't the thing, he could have told his family and close friends the public didn't need to know.

His publicist however suggested that giving him another reason to appear on a few shows over the coming months and to make himself the darling of the cooing band of morons who will think he is a brave little man for coming out will ensure good ratings for his TV show.

grabec · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:27 pm

alienlife wrote:

grabec wrote:

I don't really think there's a youth/age divide here, alien. Not as far as being gay is concerned. Look at the gay bullying that goes on in playgrounds and via text messages...and the resulting suicides.

It's more acceptable amongst many young people, at least more than it was 15/20 years ago. You'll always get nasty people in schools and sadly they just have more ways to get at their victims, I'm not sure that the gay bullying is as much to do with homosexuality as the way that groups and cliques still exist and very few are brought up capable of seeing people as human beings.

Well, the fact is that gay bullying does happen, and if being gay were normalised, it wouldn't happen.

As a matter of fact, I agree with you in principle. You could also argue that racism is to do with the way groups and cliques operate. As soon as you outlaw
one prejudice, another simply takes its place, but that doesn't mean we should stop trying to eradicate prejudice.

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:29 pm

Agree with Alienlife.. It's perfect timing for his new show. On the back of this announcement he will get a few TV interviews to discuss his coming out and also slip in the fact he as an ITV show every Saturday night.. Great play by the Tom Daley team..

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:29 pm

Also when is Poolie1908 going to admit he is POK?

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

The top and bottom (opps wrong word) of this is nobody gives a damn anymore ..
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grabec · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:31 pm

Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:

grabec wrote:

Can you show me where this happens?

There is a lad at St Hilds now, who everyone knows is gay. He is not picked on or bullied in the slightest. Not by anyone. And there are some troublesome lads at that school.

The kids are more tolerant than most give them credit for.

Yes, here you go:

•Over half (55%) of lesbian, gay and bisexual young people have experienced homophobic bullying at school.

From: Guasp, April (2012) The school report: the experiences of young gay people in Britain's schools (PDF). London: Stonewall.

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

Stonewall... That's like believing Goebells saying Adolf Hitler was a canny bloke

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grabec · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:45 pm

offshorepoolie wrote:

Stonewall... That's like believing Goebells saying Adolf Hitler was a canny bloke

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If you can point to fallacies in the research, let's hear 'em.

Compo · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:47 pm

grabec wrote:

Yes, here you go:

•Over half (55%) of lesbian, gay and bisexual young people have experienced homophobic bullying at school.

From: Guasp, April (2012) The school report: the experiences of young gay people in Britain's schools (PDF). London: Stonewall.

Hasnt every kids experience some form of bullying at some point in their lives the difference is people dont bang on about it or just call it name calling or they learn as i did to grow a backbone and come back with better come backs.

Compo · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:48 pm

Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:

is compo gay?

grabec · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:52 pm

Compo wrote:

grabec wrote:

Hasnt every kids experience some form of bullying at some point in their lives the difference is people dont bang on about it or just call it name calling or they learn as i did to grow a backbone and come back with better come backs.

Bullying can lead to mental illness and suicide.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Compo wrote:

Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:

is compo gay?

Your so brave and courageous.

poolie1908 · **Joined:** Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:46 pm **Posts:** 105

offshorepoolie wrote:

He's as camp as a row of tents... The only people who are shocked must be the media.. They where probably shocked when Wayne Sleep announced be was bent too..

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The problem is he acts like your average everyday normal likeable guy, but when he speaks, he does tend to speak with a little high-pitched accent which makes him sound slightly effeminate.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Compo wrote:

grabec wrote:

Yes, here you go:

•Over half (55%) of lesbian, gay and bisexual young people have experienced homophobic bullying at school.

From: Guasp, April (2012) The school report: the experiences of young gay people in Britain's schools (PDF). London: Stonewall.

Hasnt every kids experience some form of bullying at some point in their lives the difference is people dont bang on about it or just call it name calling or they learn as i did to grow a backbone and come back with better come backs.

Compo your better than that, not everyone can just 'grow a back bone' n think of better come backs.

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

So can stressing about GCSE's, premature baldness, being the fat kid, being shit at sport.

Bullying is awful. Full stop.

Being bullied for being fat is just as bad as being bullied for being gay.

But like I said, I dont believe kids these days DO bully the gay kids.

alienlife · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:56 pm

grabec wrote:

Yes, here you go:

•Over half (55%) of lesbian, gay and bisexual young people have experienced homophobic bullying at school.

From: Guasp, April (2012) The school report: the experiences of young gay people in Britain's schools (PDF). London: Stonewall.

I'm being deliberately obtuse here but how many of those using abusive language knew with 100% certainty their victims were Gay or Bisexual?

The fact that these terms are used by some in a negative manner is the issue not necessarily the singling out of people, the solution comes back to the point I made about society recognising people as humans first and foremost. That requires re-education of the media and more challengingly of the terminally thick that lap up sensationalism and bring up their kids to think that those who are different to them are bad.

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

poolie1908 wrote:

offshorepoolie wrote:

He's as camp as a row of tents... The only people who are shocked must be the media.. They where probably shocked when Wayne Sleep announced be was bent too..

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The problem is he acts like your average everyday normal likeable guy, but when he speaks, he does tend to speak with a little high-pitched accent which makes him sound slightly effeminate.

alienlife · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:58 pm

Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:

Being bullied for being fat is just as bad as being bullied for being gay.

It's socially acceptable to hurl abuse at fat people and ginger people and will be ever thus.

Apparently its not socially acceptable to be a fat ginger person who singles out the ring leaders and gives them a kicking. Funny that.

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

alienlife wrote:

Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:

Being bullied for being fat is just as bad as being bullied for being gay.

It's socially acceptable to hurl abuse at fat people and ginger people and will be ever thus.

Apparently its not socially acceptable to be a fat ginger person who singles out the ring leaders and gives them a kicking. Funny that.

Aye. That is the way of it. Infact the bullied kid would probably be expelled.

alienlife · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:00 pm

grabec wrote:

Bullying can lead to mental illness and suicide.

Yes but (and I get the feeling you have) try and tell a school someone is being bullied and they person who feels victimised by the system will be the one who was being bullied, bullies are often popular or in popular cliques and are never seen as bad people.

They are also the ones who cower when confronted and who go on to fail miserably in life.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Bullying can lead to mental illness and suicide.[/quote]
What d'ya reckon everyone? Should they grow a backbone, or man up?[/quote]

is compo the winner of this weeks narrow minded award?

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

I would trust any statistics produced by a group that exists to promote homosexuality the same I'd trust any statistics produced by any pressure group. The truth is somewhere in the middle . I expect there is far LESS bullying going on these days than when we where younger.

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Compo · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:04 pm

Yubep wrote:

Compo wrote:

grabec wrote:

Yes, here you go:

•Over half (55%) of lesbian, gay and bisexual young people have experienced homophobic bullying at school.

From: Guasp, April (2012) The school report: the experiences of young gay people in Britain's schools (PDF). London: Stonewall.

Hasnt every kids experience some form of bullying at some point in their lives the difference is people dont bang on about it or just call it name calling or they learn as i did to grow a backbone and come back with better come backs.

Compo your better than that, not everyone can just 'grow a back bone' n think of better come backs.

I was just playing devils advocate to be honest bullying isnt big or clever.

grabec · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:04 pm

alienlife wrote:

grabec wrote:

Yes, here you go:

The fact that these terms are used by some in a negative manner is the issue not necessarily the singling out of people, the solution comes back to the point I made about society recognising people as humans first and foremost. That requires re-education of the media and more challengingly of the terminally thick that lap up sensationalism and bring up their kids to think that those who are different to them are bad.

Well, yes, but I'm not disagreeing with that. The issue is how we bring it about. Do we sit back and wait for x number of generations before the re-education slowly happens...and it will be grindingly slow....or do we also chip away at it now, in ways people will understand?

poolie1908 · **Joined:** Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:46 pm **Posts:** 105

Compo wrote:

Isnt being bi-sexual just being greedy?

Think you've been watching Gimme Gimme Gimme, Mr. Compo. :laugh:

"My 12-in-a-bed sex romp with Hartlepool F.C, by Sugar Walls."

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:10 pm

Since Tom Daley has came out.. I've heard a few whispers on twitter that Louie Spence might also be gay..

grabec · **Posted:** Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:12 pm

offshorepoolie wrote:

I would trust any statistics produced by a group that exists to promote homosexuality the same I'd trust any statistics produced by any pressure group. The truth is somewhere in the middle . I expect there is far LESS bullying going on these days than when we where younger.

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http://health.usnews.com/health-news/ne ... on-suicide

poolie1908 · **Joined:** Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:46 pm **Posts:** 105

Joe Mac wrote:

Since Tom Daley has came out.. I've heard a few whispers on twitter that Louie Spence might also be gay..

Haha.

poolie1908 · **Joined:** Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:46 pm **Posts:** 105

Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:

poolie1908 wrote:

offshorepoolie wrote:

He's as camp as a row of tents... The only people who are shocked must be the media.. They where probably shocked when Wayne Sleep announced be was bent too..

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The problem is he acts like your average everyday normal likeable guy, but when he speaks, he does tend to speak with a little high-pitched accent which makes him sound slightly effeminate.

Surprised the impressionists haven't done an impersonation of him - that could be quite funny.

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

You can find as many articles as you like but I've but to be honest I've experienced / heard of as much bullying over sexuality as I've seen Burka's in Middleton Grange Shopping Centre... It not an issue to kids these days.. You're far more likely to get taunted for your hair colour, weight or the size of your nose...

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Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

grabec wrote:

alienlife wrote:

grabec wrote:

Yes, here you go:

The fact that these terms are used by some in a negative manner is the issue not necessarily the singling out of people, the solution comes back to the point I made about society recognising people as humans first and foremost. That requires re-education of the media and more challengingly of the terminally thick that lap up sensationalism and bring up their kids to think that those who are different to them are bad.

Well, yes, but I'm not disagreeing with that. The issue is how we bring it about. Do we sit back and wait for x number of generations before the re-education slowly happens...and it will be grindingly slow....or do we also chip away at it now, in ways people will understand?

I am sure most of us have our own issues in life to really care about this one topic to be honest. Infact, I am still fuming over an issue my lad had at school, which to me is much more important than this gay thing.

And there are many people being bullied all over the world. Including anyone struggling to pay off a mortgage.

poolie1908 · **Joined:** Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:46 pm **Posts:** 105

Andy Dibbles Gloves wrote:

PJPoolie wrote:

grabec wrote:

Will there ever be a time when a person just partners whomever they want to partner and everyone else just minds their own business?

Sigh. Probably not.

This.

Him 'coming out' suggests that him having a male partner isn't 'normal' and is a massive issue when in reality it isn't. It's none of our business and certainly isn't worthy of news coverage. So what!!?

Its got to be the biggest non story for decades.

If any human alive didnt suspect Daley was a chutney ferret, then I suggest you are POK.

He was the most obvious candidate for being gay since......well......Ricky Martin.

But he is being classed as oh so brave in the media this morning. Do please welcome to the board.

Yeah, so much of a non-story, the Norwegians are even talking about it:

http://www.nrk.no/sport/toppstuper-star ... 1.11391482

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

I am just glad daley isnt from Hartlepool, otherwise we would have to get the lighted torches and pickforks out again.

We dont want them sort round here. The southerners can have them.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

if the norweigens are talking about it, then its gotta be newsworthy.

poolie1908 · **Joined:** Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:46 pm **Posts:** 105

Plymouth fans will probably get some stick on Saturday - at home in the Cup.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

if i was a plymouth fan, id not turn up this weekend, it's gunna be hostile!

poolie1908 · **Joined:** Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:46 pm **Posts:** 105

Yubep wrote:

if i was a plymouth fan, id not turn up this weekend, it's gunna be hostile!

We've got Plymouth last away game of the season - could be a few wisecracks there from the crowd.

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

has Plymouth come out as well like?

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

Don't think so ..You'll get arrested homophobia (whatever that is) is as much an issue as the colour of your skin these days

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poolie1908 · **Joined:** Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:46 pm **Posts:** 105

offshorepoolie wrote:

Don't think so ..You'll get arrested homophobia (whatever that is) is as much an issue as the colour of your skin these days

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People will have to be careful with what they say, if they feel the need to say anything, in case the Plymouth staff are a little tetchy. But I don't think that will happen.

Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

What the fuck are you talking about?

Where is POK when you need him

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