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codheads · **Joined:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:20 pm **Posts:** 580

Yogi been watching the Ryder cup over the festive period and he's searching for our own Ian pouter and he seems to think we have them amongst our ranks to lead this team ? I watched the Ryder cup and I watched pools play most times this season and yogi we don't have anyone at hufc with the same commitment passion will to win ? Now stop spowting shit u muppet it getting embarrassing refred

TheTruthHurts · **Joined:** Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:54 pm **Posts:** 202

Jack Baldwin has plenty of leadership qualities, I think giving him the captains armband could really help him develop. It's a risky move but there is a touch of something special about the lad, it would make him a much more rounded player.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37958

For the leader idea to work, they need willing and able followers, that's where it all falls apart.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

TheTruthHurts wrote:

Jack Baldwin has plenty of leadership qualities, I think giving him the captains armband could really help him develop. It's a risky move but there is a touch of something special about the lad, it would make him a much more rounded player.

With this bunch it could be a very bad move. If humps is to continue starting he should wear it. 1 thing he cant be critiscised on is his motivation. The only other player I can think of is flinders.

poolie1966 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:55 am **Posts:** 1183

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

TheTruthHurts wrote:

Jack Baldwin has plenty of leadership qualities, I think giving him the captains armband could really help him develop. It's a risky move but there is a touch of something special about the lad, it would make him a much more rounded player.

With this bunch it could be a very bad move. If humps is to continue starting he should wear it. 1 thing he cant be critiscised on is his motivation. The only other player I can think of is flinders.

I think of the current players Humphreys is the obvious choice for captain & I would agree that giving it to Baldwin at the minute could prove to be a bad idea!

TheTruthHurts · **Joined:** Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:54 pm **Posts:** 202

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

TheTruthHurts wrote:

Jack Baldwin has plenty of leadership qualities, I think giving him the captains armband could really help him develop. It's a risky move but there is a touch of something special about the lad, it would make him a much more rounded player.

With this bunch it could be a very bad move. If humps is to continue starting he should wear it. 1 thing he cant be critiscised on is his motivation. The only other player I can think of is flinders.

There seems to be a great sense of camaraderie among the youngsters: Baldwin, James, Holden, Poole, Luscombe, Richards, Rutherford, Johnson, Wyke, and soon Boagey and Dolan will be part of the team. It's a risk, but if Hughes really believes in giving youth a chance then that could be the nucleus of our team in L2, albeit with a few necessary additions. It's a risk, but I'm sick of the same old faces who have dragged us into this mess.

Humphreys can only physically last another year or two, let's start afresh in L2 with the kids.

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:09 am

I know we are very very very Bad/Shite at the moment....but why the fuck posters keep mentioning putting Luscombe in the starting 11 is baffling to me!!!! confised

He's been here what....20 months????....under 3/4 Managers....and he hasn't been a regular under any!!!! :roll:

Doesn't that tell you anything about him????

I think the likes of his attitude has a lot to do with our current prediciment....it's rubbing off on the other players!!!! sadx

No matter how many years you have been supporting Pools have any of you EVER known a Squad of Players so 'Not Bothered' about Hartlepool United????

This Squad to me doesn't give a fuck about Pools....and I've now got to the stage that I don't give a fuck about them....hence my poor usage of my Season Ticket this season!!!! sadx

I'm angry and I'm upset by these 'spineless money grabbing couldn't give a fuck kunts'!!!! rage

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

TheTruthHurts wrote:

Ritchies birthmark wrote:

TheTruthHurts wrote:

Jack Baldwin has plenty of leadership qualities, I think giving him the captains armband could really help him develop. It's a risky move but there is a touch of something special about the lad, it would make him a much more rounded player.

With this bunch it could be a very bad move. If humps is to continue starting he should wear it. 1 thing he cant be critiscised on is his motivation. The only other player I can think of is flinders.

There seems to be a great sense of camaraderie among the youngsters: Baldwin, James, Holden, Poole, Luscombe, Richards, Rutherford, Johnson, Wyke, and soon Boagey and Dolan will be part of the team. It's a risk, but if Hughes really believes in giving youth a chance then that could be the nucleus of our team in L2, albeit with a few necessary additions. It's a risk, but I'm sick of the same old faces who have dragged us into this mess.

Humphreys can only physically last another year or two, let's start afresh in L2 with the kids.

He can only last a year or 2?

Yeah he could, about 4 years ago.

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Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37958

TheTruthHurts wrote:

let's start afresh in L2 with the kids.

....let's not eh?

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:21 am

As much as our first team are crap, the kids are worse and considerably so in my opinion.

I would put a heck of a lot of money on us falling out of the football league next season if we played the kids.

Our youth set up has been a complete waste of money. Something has gone wrong somewhere. People will probably mention Luke James being a success but he didn't come through our youth system.

I think Dibble made a lot of good points about the failings of our youth set-up . It is simply not working. To make matters worse the young lads who DO make it onto the first team, simply dont progress. They just sort of go stagnant with no adequate coaching to improve them.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37958

Grave wrote:

As much as our first team are crap, the kids are worse and considerably so in my opinion.

XxxI would put a heck of a lot of money on us falling out of the football league next season if we played the kids.

Our youth set up has been a complete waste of money. Something has gone wrong somewhere. People will probably mention Luke James being a success but he didn't come through our youth system.
;;;
I think Dibble made a lot of good points about the failings of our youth set-up . It is simply not working. To make matters worse the young lads who DO make it onto the first team, simply dont progress. They just sort of go stagnant with no adequate coaching to improve them.

Coaching .....it's been a bone of contention with me for several years now. No matter who's been brought in over the recent years, they seem to soon lose their appetite for the game and descend to the level we've come to despair of.
As long as this continues, we're going nowhere ....you can change maagers till th cows come home, it's obvious where the change is needed.

parmo · **Posted:** Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:29 am

the sad reality of the situation is... Ken has his men, be that Turner, Humphreys, Barron or whoever... that is all that counts to him. No matter that...as someone so succinctly put it... their ambitions far exceed their capabilities.

He does not give one jot about that.

They are his trusted men on the inside who will tittle tattle everything to him so that no matter what, their position is secured.

And said secured people are happy with the situation, cos they'll still be here no matter how bad it gets

Nothing will change, until the obvious changes

Sadly, despite this mystery million pound a year (whatever the fuck they are spending THAT on)!!!!! - we are stuck with this predicament sine die

It now begs the question I never thought I would ask.... what is the point any more?

Chrissy Stevo · **Posted:** Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:45 pm

we should concentrate our efforts on finding a player before we start worrying about one that can lead.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37958

parmo wrote:

the sad reality of the situation is... Ken has his men, be that Turner, Humphreys, Barron or whoever... that is all that counts to him. No matter that...as someone so succinctly put it... their ambitions far exceed their capabilities.

He does not give one jot about that.

They are his trusted men on the inside who will tittle tattle everything to him so that no matter what, their position is secured.

And said secured people are happy with the situation, cos they'll still be here no matter how bad it gets

Nothing will change, until the obvious changes

Sadly, despite this mystery million pound a year (whatever the fuck they are spending THAT on)!!!!! - we are stuck with this predicament sine die

It now begs the question I never thought I would ask.... what is the point any more?

l
You can bring in as many managers as you like, but they have as much influence on which way things are going as the figurehead on a ship, they may look as though they're pointing the way the ship's going, but someone in the background is really steering the.bleedin thing......!

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:41 pm

Snowy wrote:

parmo wrote:

the sad reality of the situation is... Ken has his men, be that Turner, Humphreys, Barron or whoever... that is all that counts to him. No matter that...as someone so succinctly put it... their ambitions far exceed their capabilities.

He does not give one jot about that.

They are his trusted men on the inside who will tittle tattle everything to him so that no matter what, their position is secured.

And said secured people are happy with the situation, cos they'll still be here no matter how bad it gets

Nothing will change, until the obvious changes

Sadly, despite this mystery million pound a year (whatever the fuck they are spending THAT on)!!!!! - we are stuck with this predicament sine die

It now begs the question I never thought I would ask.... what is the point any more?

l
You can bring in as many managers as you like, but they have as much influence on which way things are going as the figurehead on a ship, they may look as though they're pointing the way the ship's going, but someone in the background is really steering the.bleedin thing......!

It would be like blaming this fella for the Warrior returning to Portsmouth..

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Could bring in this guy?

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:54 pm

Grave wrote:

Our youth set up has been a complete waste of money. Something has gone wrong somewhere. People will probably mention Luke James being a success but he didn't come through our youth system.

he's been at the club since he was 12

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Shhhh he's on a roll

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:04 pm

misterb2001 wrote:

Grave wrote:

Our youth set up has been a complete waste of money. Something has gone wrong somewhere. People will probably mention Luke James being a success but he didn't come through our youth system.

he's been at the club since he was 12

Really? I was under the impression we signed him when he was about 15?

Maybe I am wrong for about the third time in my life :roll:

AND IT FEELS WEIRD!

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:05 pm

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

Signed after bring rejected by Newcastle ..FACT .. I thought it was when he was of scholarship age tbh

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Spender · **Posted:** Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:46 pm

Yubep wrote:

Shhhh he's on a roll

Nah, you're thinking about Luscombe.

Double cheese and ham with extra mayo and lard.

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

No he got the scholarship and then was rejected by.the Mackems

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Andy Dibbles Gloves · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:32 pm **Posts:** 6817

Grave wrote:

I think Dibble made a lot of good points about the failings of our youth set-up . It is simply not working. To make matters worse the young lads who DO make it onto the first team, simply dont progress. They just sort of go stagnant with no adequate coaching to improve them.

Not sure what points you are refering to there?

All I know for certain, as its the age group I am involved with, there are two local teams at under 15 level, Greatham and Brinkburn.

Both of these teams have 3-4 players better than all of those from hartlepool in the Pools set up at this age group. That opinion isnt just mine, its common around the town when referring to this age group.

But here is a fact for you. There have been no changes to that age group for 3 years now. No players released and none from Hartlepool brought in.

We havent seen a Pools scout at a Brinkburn game for over 2 years now. FACT.

Our record last seaon in the TJFA was :
p 22
w 20
d 2
l 0

Goals 98
conceded 14.

We also got to the TJFA cup final, and should have won.

Now the point being, that sort of record should have attracted interest. It didnt, well not from Pools.

It did from Mddlesbrough, Newcastle, and Everton.

Maybe Pools would like to repsond to this?

parmo · **Posted:** Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:35 am

Russ Simpson will reply on the official site," We don't need no education - Hey Dibble, leave our kids alone" !!!!!

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

parmo wrote:

Russ Simpson will reply on the official site," We don't need no education - Hey Dibble, leave our kids alone" !!!!!

Number of kids offered scholarship from the town this year.. 1. All other kids released and now unable to play in tjfa until next season...some youth scheme that... You where dead right Darren they're far better off playing for a local team than letting those idiots give them false hope... leave where they are to concentrate on School etc until they're of schilarship age even then id be cautious

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