Relax

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:21 pm

I think everybody just needs to relax a bit... Ok I wasn't there tonight and by the sounds of it we didn't play well at all, but people talking about relegation, refund on season tickets etc... banghead

Hasn't been the best of starts but this is only the 2nd league game out of 46! Cooper isn't daft and i'm sure he is doing everything he can to improve the situation

In Cooper we trust!

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:23 pm

To honest I think we should overreact. I've just burned my season ticket put a grand on us be relegated and am just off out to put the club shop windows out.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:24 pm

i just killed myself

BillinghamPoolie · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:24 pm

PJ_Poolie wrote:

To honest I think we should overreact. I've just burned my season ticket put a grand on us be relegated and am just off out to put the club shop windows out.

You cant PJ the shutters will be down!

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:25 pm

Testosterone pumping through the veins, over reacting, just rub your earlobes and repeat, goose frapper over and over until calm is restored therethere

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:27 pm

BillinghamPoolie wrote:

PJ_Poolie wrote:

To honest I think we should overreact. I've just burned my season ticket put a grand on us be relegated and am just off out to put the club shop windows out.

You cant PJ the shutters will be down!

The spineless bastards.

I'll have to make do with painting 'Scooty Out' on the wall opposite. Now where's my emulsion brush.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

The worrying thing is cooper no longer seems able to see what the problems are that all the fans can see.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22568

Was there a game tonight?

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:32 pm

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

The worrying thing is cooper no longer seems able to see what the problems are that all the fans can see.

I don't think you can say that really, he's been allowed to make thre singings and according to Nick Loughlin's tweets he's never seen him as angry as he is tonight.

We're two League games in, let's see if he can get a reaction and make positive changes.

born toulouse · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:33 pm

No game tonight Mr I, by all acccounts it was just gentle training session for Notts County.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

misterb2001 wrote:

i just killed myself

I've often wondered what a suicide note looked like !!!!!

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:35 pm

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

The worrying thing is cooper no longer seems able to see what the problems are that all the fans can see.

...I reckon he can.......if we start the season badly it will force the owners to free up some much needed funds for some fresh blood, whereas if we started okay they'll be happy to settle for what we have.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Three has 2 e's!!!

If only there wasn't a game tonight mr I!

Sadly there was though and yet again we were clueless. We stayed in
League 1 last year after a great start, 19 pts after 9 games. That ain't Gona happen this season so were are those precious points comimg from. I'm worried that's all I'm Gona say!

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

PJ_Poolie wrote:

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

The worrying thing is cooper no longer seems able to see what the problems are that all the fans can see.

I don't think you can say that really, he's been allowed to make thre singings and according to Nick Loughlin's tweets he's never seen him as angry as he is tonight.

We're two League games in, let's see if he can get a reaction and make positive changes.

I dont see what being angry has to do with anything?

He couldnt see that we needed pace and creativiy in centre mid. Instead he signed a slower, poorer version of Murray/Liddle.

He cant see 4-4-2 doesnt work with Sweeney in the middle. He cant seem to see we need players who can control and pass a football, he also cant seem to see we need wingers to cross a ball on their correct foot to our biggest threat.

Coopers best trait was being able to see exactly what the fans could, he seems to have lost the ability at the moment.

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:59 pm

It appears Coopers resources are limited at the minute and he is trying different combinations, we don't know whats going on at the club i.e No funds for players etc... But the point of this post is for people not to get so worked up about it.

Joe Mac · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:01 pm

For any fishing fans out there go on HARTLEPOOL UNITED SUPPORTER'S GROUP on facebook, a few nice bites

Lord_of_Stranton · **Joined:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:48 pm **Posts:** 1852

What confuses me is if we are playing with big Steve Howard up top, then why do we want wingers cutting in. The only highlight from the Crewe game was Franks crossing the ball in. Playing him out-wide left wont help Howard as any cross into the box, Howard will have to work harder to get to it. That's just the way I see it.

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

The team just needs time to gel bbolt

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:11 pm

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

PJ_Poolie wrote:

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

The worrying thing is cooper no longer seems able to see what the problems are that all the fans can see.

I don't think you can say that really, he's been allowed to make thre singings and according to Nick Loughlin's tweets he's never seen him as angry as he is tonight.

We're two League games in, let's see if he can get a reaction and make positive changes.

I dont see what being angry has to do with anything?

He couldnt see that we needed pace and creativiy in centre mid. Instead he signed a slower, poorer version of Murray/Liddle.

He cant see 4-4-2 doesnt work with Sweeney in the middle. He cant seem to see we need players who can control and pass a football, he also cant seem to see we need wingers to cross a ball on their correct foot to our biggest threat.

Coopers best trait was being able to see exactly what the fans could, he seems to have lost the ability at the moment.

^This

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

Very fukn soon!!!!

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:21 pm

Murray came on at half time tonight, a game and a half into the season so he's hardly been discarded. Cooper has said he likes 4-4-2 he's stuck by his guns and tried it. But in fairness he's admitted defeat at half time tonight and changed to our more familiar system away from home. With the players we have I reckon it could work at home as well. He's said himself tonight he's not going to stick by something or someone that isn't working when his it's his head on the block.

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

I'm concerned!
The defence is a concern as is the midfield.
We bang on about lack of goals but it can't be helped if the service isn't there. It also cant help if your centre backs aren't picking up on the opposition in the 6 yard box, or if the midfield is being constantly overrun.
Cooper must have a massive headache on where to start first but thats what he's paid to do and if the results aren't going our way coupled with sub standard performances i'll be one of the first to say that we need a change.

Ritchies birthmark · **Joined:** Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 am **Posts:** 5637

The full 11 is a concern!!

Jonny · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:42 pm

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

The worrying thing is cooper no longer seems able to see what the problems are that all the fans can see.

Totally agree - the selections are baffling, I don't play Football Manager but I bet the selections and tactics we are playing wouldn't even work on that.....

Jonny · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:48 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

You say Cooper isnt daft, but looking at the coaching staff, Franks and Monkey on the "wrong" flanks and our Player of the Year sat on the bench game after game, I'm seriously beginning to wonder.

Naming his starting eleven for it a fortnight before the first game was a mistake in hindsight. As was not experimenting a bit more with the rest of the squad in the friendlies.

If its right that Howard was taking corners tonight, you genuinely have to wonder what the fuck is going on.

The fact I like Cooper and rate him one of the top 3 managers in the time I've been supporting the club, doesn't make him immune from criticism, as people have probably gathered by now.

He desperately, desperately, needs a couple of results, and he's lucky that the next 3 fixtures give him a great opportunity to get them. If he doesn't get them ,I think he will be gone by Halloween.

Spot on - although I think all the fixtures look tough at the moment...

doubledecker · **Joined:** Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:52 pm **Posts:** 497

Joe Mac wrote:

I think everybody just needs to relax a bit... Ok I wasn't there tonight and by the sounds of it we didn't play well at all, but people talking about relegation, refund on season tickets etc... banghead

Hasn't been the best of starts but this is only the 2nd league game out of 46! Cooper isn't daft and i'm sure he is doing everything he can to improve the situation

In Cooper we trust!

No overr-reaction from me, I expected us to be poor this season and have a very tough start-we are out of the cup, have scored none in 3 games and have a single point.
So we are actually a point ahead of what I expected

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:36 am

PJ_Poolie wrote:

He's said himself tonight he's not going to stick by something or someone that isn't working when his it's his head on the block.

I hope that he's referring to the coaching staff.

parmo · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:30 am

Chip Fireball wrote:

You say Cooper isnt daft, but looking at the coaching staff, Franks and Monkey on the "wrong" flanks and our Player of the Year sat on the bench game after game, I'm seriously beginning to wonder.

Naming his starting eleven for it a fortnight before the first game was a mistake in hindsight. As was not experimenting a bit more with the rest of the squad in the friendlies.

If its right that Howard was taking corners tonight, you genuinely have to wonder what the fuck is going on.

The fact I like Cooper and rate him one of the top 3 managers in the time I've been supporting the club, doesn't make him immune from criticism, as people have probably gathered by now.

He desperately, desperately, needs a couple of results, and he's lucky that the next 3 fixtures give him a great opportunity to get them. If he doesn't get them ,I think he will be gone by Halloween.

if Cooper goes, then Jedward HAVE to go as well!! No hanging around like bad smelling loyal servants this time!!!!

Lord_of_Stranton · **Joined:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:48 pm **Posts:** 1852

I'm not sure they would though. Humphreys is still in the squad so I don't imagine he would be shown the door if Cooper was sacked. I personally don't think Cooper will get sacked but he is - at the moment - part of the problem. I think he will abandon this 4-4-2 with Sweeney and Walton as it clearly isn't working and no-one can see any positives and hopefully because of that results will improve.

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