WTF WAS THAT

Please tell me that was getting our bad game and terrible defending out of the way before the League season begins.

Abysmal Shocking terrible....

Rule 1 of football , you appear to need reminding....Play to the whistle Your in tier 3 of the league because your not the Arsenal defence of the 90s and shouldn't all stand there with your hands in the air as if asking the referee if you can leave the pitch to use the toilet or be waving to the WAGS in the stands.

For over 2 weeks now GB athletes have been given the people of the country a feel good effect, well today you as a side managed to deflate 189 Poolies within 40 minutes of the game.

The GB dressage team while sitting on their horses and dancing to the great escape could have defended better, and maybe if you carry on like that for the rest of the season, it'll be a great escape if we avoid the bottom 4.

I and every other Poolie there today spent good money for what a performance so poor I really cant believe players in a Pools shirt actually give it. Now get on that training pitch, get your heads right and make up for it next week.

George Graham once said “The goalkeeper is the jewel in the crown and getting at him should be almost impossible. It's the biggest sin in football to make him do any work.”

I need to say no more.

Paul Murray Marshalled the back 4 to great effect last season but apparently now we Dont need him. Surely on the teamsheet against Swindon who are better than Crewe I'd like to point out. I think it was elvis who said it's going to be a long long season, not a truer sentence spoke today

Sweeney proved once and for all he is less than useless when he has something to do other then bomb forward and get on the end of a move. Murray and Walton should be tried in the centre. Monkhouse showed why he should have been released 2 years ago - absolutely shite. Austin has never impressed me and was awful yet again today. Why did we keep these type of players? Why do they keep getting a game?
Not one player gets any credit for today.

One word... pathetic



They really owe the fans next Saturday after that

cant believe sweeney was out in showroom tonight, after such a lashing today they should be back in training tomorrow.

and to think you were berating me for being negative!

Overpaids pack of......... Hold on wrong team
I was thinking of Terry and co when playing for England

My points are based on a competitive game which I had the misfortune to watch, think that slightly different to what your points were based on. Yesterday was a shambles, which may be a on off, we need to see more games before writing the season off completely which I think you had done. On yesterday's performance a struggle may be on the cards, but come Saturday that may all change, which is what the "Now get on that training pitch, get your heads right and make up for it next week, is aimed at. What did you expect from me or any other fan who attended yesterday , I could have attempted to gloss over the performance and find some pluses to put on here but I don't do that i call a game as I see it and even with my most pessimistic head on that would have been difficult. I could have just used the BBC stats which although showed Crewe had 65% possession we had more shots/more shots on target and won more corners what would that have achieved ?

Once more I've called a game I watched nothing more. 1 game, of which(and I checked the league ) doesn't show we've lost any points we're out of a cup.

Was I over the top , was it a knee jerk reaction a few hours after a heavy defeat, I don't think so do I feel the same about that performance now as I did when I walked out of the ground Yes because it was as I keep saying a shambles.

It an opinion and probably an opinion shared by 189 Poolies who were at Gresty Road yesterday, those 189 Poolies will all have a differing opinion on the next game maybe yours will be hey this team looks OK and we may not struggle as I first though.

Hartley was out aswell like, I couldn't face going out after a game like that

Maybe the next time yubep and Joe Mac have a bad day at work they should stop in as well in case they seen by colleagues. A bit over the top by me I agree but maybe relaxing after such a bad day at the office is someway to attempt to get it out of the system, Christ they had a couple drinks, and unless they meant to be training today what's wrong with that ? We've all done it after a bad day.

and to think you were berating me for being negative![/quote]

My points are based on a competitive game which I had the misfortune to watch, think that slightly different to what your points were based on. Yesterday was a shambles, which may be a on off, we need to see more games before writing the season off completely which I think you had done. On yesterday's performance a struggle may be on the cards, but come Saturday that may all change, which is what the "Now get on that training pitch, get your heads right and make up for it next week, is aimed at. What did you expect from me or any other fan who attended yesterday , I could have attempted to gloss over the performance and find some pluses to put on here but I don't do that i call a game as I see it and even with my most pessimistic head on that would have been difficult. I could have just used the BBC stats which although showed Crewe had 65% possession we had more shots/more shots on target and won more corners what would that have achieved ?

Once more I've called a game I watched nothing more. 1 game, of which(and I checked the league ) doesn't show we've lost any points we're out of a cup.

Was I over the top , was it a knee jerk reaction a few hours after a heavy defeat, I don't think so do I feel the same about that performance now as I did when I walked out of the ground Yes because it was as I keep saying a shambles.

It an opinion and probably an opinion shared by 189 Poolies who were at Gresty Road yesterday, those 189 Poolies will all have a differing opinion on the next game maybe yours will be hey this team looks OK and we may not struggle as I first though.[/quote]


Idid not write off our season, only said we were in for a VERY tough start given the fixtures, and was shouted down hysterically for being negative.
expect another humping off Swindon and then 2 successive away games....as I have beensaying VERY tough. After that we will see, if we can avoid relegation (and I think we can) then that is an achievment.

Well said Chip I have been thinking the same thing...I love my football but the last 2 weeks have definitely put things into perspective, normal dedicated people you can relate to who don't live in some bubblesurrounding themselves with people who kiss their arses.

The thing is I think very few footballers are what you'd call dedicated athletes nor do they pretend to be.
Competition between dedicated athletes can never be a mass spectator sport as there aren't enough such athletes to go round, and not enough 250,000 capacity stadia to watch those there are.
Just wait a month or two till Olympic glory rubs off then see what the public think. They'll be back in the pub in droves watching Manyoo before you can spell Shinji Kagawa.

Difference is I don't have people spending a lot of money to go watch me work.

Nowt wrong with letting off a bit of steam after a bad day at work, we all do it.

My surprise was for a number of reasons...

1. They arent in for extra training today.
2. They arent miserable n gutted like most fans who made the journey home.
3. if they arent in for extra training, they should fooking well wanna do some extra off their own bat.

Boyd was out last night too, had a right gut on him, guess thats what alcohol does for you.

It's all about persepective MJ, certianly I am not claiming that response was ubiquitous, but it was how I took some of the responses from certain posters.
anyway its one game in, plenty to go!

I can't and won't disagree with that statement. The point I was trying to make is that maybe they needed to chill. I'm not suggesting, and if it was the case I would be one of the first to have a go, that they were getting blaked, I don't know what they were drinking and I'm not going to guess but it may have been an hour or less that they were actually out after being dropped off on the team bus, maybe they were waiting for someone to pick them up. Previous posters posts read like a go at them for simply being out after a defeat (if that wasn't the point I apologise) and that they should have been locked away. I actually said on way back that they should have been brought in today for some training even a look at any video Pools had of the game to try and put things right.

And yes every athlete over the last 2 weeks have shown many a professional footballer how to succeed in their given sport.

And yes every athlete over the last 2 weeks have shown many a professional footballer how to succeed in their given sport

And boxer Anthony Joshua proves that by winning Gold Medal in the super heavyweight category and only aged 22 and having only took up boxing 4 years ago and who admitted himself he knew nothing about Boxing. Proves what can be achieved.

You have to remember these players do not care half as much as the supporters do. This is just their job and how they earn a living. We make all the emotional and financial investment - all players do these days after a bad performance is stay off Twitter for a few days.

The one thing they should remember is that if they aren't doing it at Pools then who else is really going to take them? Where next after Hartlepool United? Ask James Brown or Adam Boyd.

Yes he was. That's exactly the response he got off mainly alienlife. I know this because alienlife accused me of the same things even though I'd said fuck all. I don't dig posts up but it's there.

But unless any of the English players who Henry is talking about there are now on Pools books that may well have not been the case with the players who were mentioned as being out last night. And to take that slightly further a report a while a go said that the drinking of 2 litres of water can actually have an adverse effect now and it was only people who had a "vested interest" that had started to the so called recommendation to do that. It was said that drinking that much over a day may be beneficial to health BUT drinking that much in a short period of time would not hydrate cells but only dilute the urine, so based on that if Henry was drinking 2 litres from ending a game at say 5pm and falling asleep by 11pm it was doing him no good, if you believe latest report(s)

Shit there onto us, the waterboard have been secretly promoting water for years as healthy in order to just get people to drink more and spend more money on it.

You've rumbled us bob.

To be honest I think a few beers on saturday night will have no effect on a players form/fitness for the next match which is taking place 1 week later.

Hot temperatures in England!!!

If we'd won nobody would batter an eyelid if 2 players who i assume had the following day off had a few drinks. It's happened many times before and will happen again. It isn't just pools it's all clubs. From the premier downover. I can see both sides of the coin but if I was a player I'd still want to have a life away from my profession. I would look after myself though and eat healthy and I would hope they do. I wouldn't give up alcohol as there's no medical evidence that having a few drinks 7 days before your next match effects you. Henry might have been a model professional and said the correct things in interviews but Ashley cole who drinks smokes and seems to be out always has had a great career also. There's no actual proof to back up chips or bobs views on this matter. Obviously eating shite as luscombe has can certainly ruin your career, a few beers, well
The jury is still out

Didnt affect Bob Newton is his goalscoring days for pools.
Many a story I've heard of Big bad bob boogieing away in Foxys the night before a home game

as someone says its all about how serious they want to take it, we have seen from the Olympics how often people have talked about dqueezing that 1 or 2 % out to give them an edge.
agree its only a job for them and thats fine, but at the same time they shouldnt be banging their gums in the local rag about how hard they are working either then.

It was said tongue in cheek.
Have you never drink rode on your mountain bike

He was and remains a total arsehole.

Compared to some of the players we had in the 70s he was!!

You missed out killing someone whilst driving pissed, think Lee Hughes but worse because since then he has two further drink driving convictions.

I've never seen anything at all that suggests drinking less water is good. Most health magazines at sports nutritionists suggest drinking at least 3 litres per day but if possible 4. Surely it is sensible to hydrate your body?

As for drinking alcohol - if it is every week then it is without doubt going to effect a players performance. Anyone that runs or goes to the gym regular can tell you that you sometimes don't feel right the session after a drink binge or sometimes 2 or 3 sessions after. I'm not saying any Pools players go on drinks binges or even drink on nights out but too much alcohol will prevent anyone from reaching their potential.

Can't be arsed to read all this so this might of been said but, half of the fuckers were out down town until the early hours on sat. Suprised copper never l them in for extra training on Sunday.

For starters EVIAN backwards is naive , so yes they do have a vested interest. But maybe what I said was based on something a Doctor said, so would you then be questioning it. That doctor of course may be wrong, other doctors would probably disagree, at end of they day they usually do.

Maybe you would like to argue your case against this person

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/201 ... -myth.html

Or this one

http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... er-per-day

Some doctors are now even saying that drinks with caffeine in them can count towards the intake, some are even saying alcohol(in moderation) can count towards the intake of liquid. Now I'm no expert(and neither are you) but the fact is at this moment in time we have so called experts(doctors) disagreeing so us mere mortals on boards like this are going to. some will believe one doctor some will believe another who are giving completely differing views.

In one those reports indoor tennis players are mentioned now when Murray is playing he could play a game for 5/6 hours and he sips thats all, yet footballers probably drink more over an hour and half. Murray won gold and silver within hours of each other did he suddenly knock back a couple litres of water in between those two games, I bet he didn't, or maybe as they do between sets he ate on a banana.......... Now why isn't he knocking back bottle after bottle when he enters the 4th/5th hour of a game ???????

Some are now saying fluid intake as opposed to water and fluid can be got from fruit and other food sources. They saying water is good for you but the intake of fluids is the equivalent in some form. I.E
75% of a baked potato contains water so you have some intake there. Others are disagreeing.

Obviously it's not against any rules to be out on the piss after a game but you'd have thought they'd have had a bit more common sense than go out in the town where they ply their trade and possibly amongst fans who were at the game just a few hours earlier!
If I was playing id have been pretty embarrassed, but maybe some of our players have no shame or are just thick as fooook!!

have no shame? thick as fooook?
maybe they just had a bad day doing their job, which is playing footy. What do you want young lads to do on a saturday night when they have no work in the morning, maybe go bowling?
1st game of the season and the lynch mob is already banging on the door

Boozing never effected my game.

Being seen out on the lash after a heavy defeat sends the wrong message to some fans. The players are in a well paid profession and at times they need to respect that. I didn't go to Crewe but I would reckon many that did will have spent in excess of £60 (inc petrol, ticket, food etc;) on the day - probably a lot more in a lot of cases if people took family. £60 may be small change to a lot of footballers but in the real world it is a lot of money to most people.

I don't expect the footballers to act like monks but if the results aren't happening on the pitch I don't expect to see half of the players getting bevvied up week after week in late night bars.

Alcohol every saturday isn't going to improve anyones performance....

I agree but after a performance like this I think it's a touch daft to be out partying until all hours, they should of been drafted in for a day of looking over what went wrong and how to make sure it doesnt ever happen again. Thats not there fault like but if I was in charge thats what would of happened,

You can't compare normal jobs like most of us have to a Footballer, as I mentioned earlier we don't have people pay good money to watch us work. I wouldn't go as far as saying "lynch mob" it just can be seen as a bit disrespectful

No, its not your normal mansjob, but its still their job and they aint paid that great.
Cooper didnt have them in for extra training, so what should they do, sit at home and sulk?
Where is line line drawn, would a 2-0 degeat be acceptable for them to go out? Should only the defence have to stay in because they shoulder most of the blame
What about Cooper, some might say he got his team selection and tactics wrong and he never reacted to change it when were getting humped. Is he allowed out on the piss?

It's absolutely true that I can't spell Shinji Kagawa...

Or ubiquitous.

Or plinth.....

If you were blessed with enough talaent to become professional at any sport, why would you ever want to drink alcohol, or rather go out on the lash. Especially during the time you are meant to be in peak physical condition?

Especially just at the time you are building up to your optimum peak of physical fitness.

We have all just watched two weeks of superb physical endeavours, from people that get to showcase themselves at the pinnacle of their sports once every four years, many of whom can barely be classed as professionsl, and I bet the vast majority never touch alcohol.

I think it is widely accepted that the best footballers in the best footballing nations never touch alcohol.

Yet in good old Ingurland, we still think its OK for footballers to let their hair down on a saturday night with a few bevvies.

"It never affected my performance at work".....................yes well you are a joiner, or a banker, acountant, for fooks sake.

I dont believe the term Professional should be used at all for English football.

Not for any player that cant keep off the ale from August to May.

But its worse than that. Because I dont think the footballers do it out of disrespect. I just think they are as thick as fook.

Why is it just footy players that get this. Having known a few professional rugby and cricket players these are just as bad.

How the Fuck do you possibly know that any of our gold medalists Dont drink??

What a load of absolute and utter bullshit

During there interviews they were discussing They couldn't wait to go out and party after training intensely for a while

Fuck me bradley wiggins had a bottle of lager in his hand in all the papers at a awards doo

Of course They have a drink

Your getting mixed up with the nun/monk olympics

I think you need to read about some of the Olympians Mr Birthmark, for example one of the women's rowing teams went 4 years without touching alcohol in prep for the games despite all their mates going out. I can't imagine Mo Farah had a few beers the week before the Olympics either

Some athlete's possibly do drink alcohol from time to time but I very much doubt it is on a regular basis and to excess. I could be wrong but I just can't imagine Chris Hoy, Mo Farah or Jess Ennis getting plastered on a saturday night very often. I believe I have also read that Andy Murray doesn't drink alcohol. I also read that Amanda Coulson went 2 years without alcohol to give herself every opportunity to get selected for team GB.

The problem with alcohol is that effects different people in different ways. Some people have 6 pints and are struggling with a hang over for the next 2 days where as others have 10 pints and 4 double vodka's and are pretty much ok by about midday the following day.

The majority of sportsmen/women will not reach their peak of performance if they are drinking large amounts of alcohol into the early hours after a match on a regular basis. The knock on effect of drink normally means tiredness and a dodgy diet of food the next day.

As for Pools players no one expects them to be like monks but they surely must understand that some fans aren't going to be best pleased if they are failing on the pitch but out till the early hours of Sunday morning.

Maybe its because alcohol is a band substance in the Olympics as some athletes have been stripped of medals. I think this is only in events were relaxation is key to slow heart rate like archery or shooting.