Sounds good to me. Wonder what their stance is on the ground sale.

Love the idea of no expenses being claimed, the who expenses thing should be scrapped anyway

Who is Allison?

Its the bloke who makes the bread with "nowt taken out"

That's what I wondered.

It's had a 'n' taken out.

All I see there is a tired list of the same old dissenting voices muttering from behind the barricades.
I'd give this mob a VERY wide berth if I still lived in the town.

Good luck with this policy as well:

Crime. Hartlepool First will support neighbourhood policing initiatives and any program that reduces the fear of crime and actual levels of Crime. Hartlepool First will have a ZERO Tolerance for any kind of drug related crimes.

Will never happen in a million years, these fools can say what they want knowing they will never get in power, like the lib dems promice the earth but when push comes to shove and you get in you realise its not possible and then everyone hates you.

He was Mandelsons toot was he not.

Think that Steve Gibbon lives in my street on the fens

Go n ask him about the ground sale joe mac

Think I might, he's always putting pointless newsletters through my letterbox.. with headlinenews such as "Pavement slab broken on Spalding Road"

"Dog Shite on corner of Crowland/Wisbech"

Think you need to read that bit again, what it says is........

Unless above and beyond normal duties then any of Hartlepool First's elected representatives will not claim any additional expenses. Any special responsibility allowances payable solely as a result of a position within the party will be donated (net of tax and NI) to party funds.

What's their definition of beyond normal duties ??? And why claim the special responsibility allowance for the party ??

It's still means the allowances have to be paid out of the budget, or wherever, so there no difference. It has to be paid to the Councillor who then donates it to the party, or he supposed to donate it.

Ahh...Knew it seemed to good to be true

But they are called putting hartlepool first so people wont take the time like chip to read up on the policies or the people involved and will just vote them in cos they have a catchy name.

Surely we have discussed the perfect solution to these chancers ad infinitum on here ie. The PooliePride Party (I'm sure it was actually registered as a political party at one time). A bunch of disparate chancers with an hidden agenda would be the last people to get my vote. If I was going to vote against party agendas I would vote for a proper independent not a cardboard made up one with a hidden right wing agenda.

The perfect Solution is properly independent people who have no party backing, the trouble with that is they also have less support, less skilled backing, less protection and don't have an instantly recognisable brand to hang their name onto.

That wasn't a problem for Drummond first time he was elected Mayor as everyone knew who H'Angus the Monkey was, it wouldn't be a problem for some of our serving councillors who have been in a seat for ever and are well known, it would be a problem for the average non attention seeking man or woman in the street.

As Yubep says people will vote for Putting Hartlepool First candidates because of the name alone, people who aren't our mates won't vote for Fetish Bob and Alienlife from the Bunker because to do that they would need to do a bit of research into what we are all about.

Cock and indeed on Mr Life. The party mould needs to be broken. Otherwise no-one gets any sort of democratic consensus. Currently that's long gone.

more typical blinkered crap from comrade fireball

Fetish Party Manifesto

1. Sale of Victoria Park to Football club
2. Attempt to bring back all facilities to our own hospital
3. Return of weekly bin collections
4. All street lights to be repaired within 3 working days
5. All pot holes to be repaired within 3 working days
6. Abolishing of all speed cameras within Hartlepool Borough Council area and replaced with speed ramps
7. No council owned land to be given away
8. Fetish parties to be held within the Civic Centre every first Sunday of the Month. Sunday's in case Pools have long away game on the Saturday. Free entry if wearing fetish wear.
9. Anyone deleting ABC pictures to be automatically jailed for 6 months with no use of a PC in that time.
10. Any thing else posters on the Bunker come up with and voted on on here if passed by the majority.

You could save a lot of time by just posting VOTE LABOUR.

you had me until no6 there bob,
anyone in favour of speed bumps is not a driver and should be shot with shit
so i'm out

You don't like no6, no6?

correct

the trouble is this party has been created to try and take over the council BUT would you want some of those people running our town.
putting hartlepool first is a good party name but still a party of dodgepots
with the exception of the 2 who have never been involved in politics you will find the others have floated from one party to another.
if they had called the party "the lining my pocket party" i might have believed them

So who are the independents you vote for ....?

Sorry to state the obvious but it's all about choices... I don't think the current lot on the council have crowned themselves in glory so surely a bit of new blood could be what is needed whether that be from a newly formed party or whatever....

Or maybe everyone should just stay in the house and not bother their arse voting because it makes shite all difference anyway..? Actually I think I like the sound of that......

New blood YES old blood under a different flag NO all some of those now connected with putting Hartlepool first have done is become a group with a name as opposed to being Independents. So what's the difference there ? All they'll do is vote together in favour or against something instead of being independent and voting for what's best for the people of the town.

So we would have Labour, Tories Lib Dems and putting Hartlepool first 4 political parties in the town, because that's all they doing forming a new party. The independents who may want to serve the town better and maybe even do it better will be squeezed out even more.

I suspect the electorate are now conditioned to accept cuts and any party in local politics has to point at the coalition and be covered from blame. My gripe is the way things have been implemented. We have bus services being slashed while we can drive through Seaton and see perfectly sound pathways being dug up to be replaced with an art deco series of paths, I ask you, the towns tucked in after six if you haven't got a car.

and the decision of cutting the buses when the goverment had the money to keep them running but conveniently forgot about it until it was too late to use it and it was then put back into another kitty is unbelievable.

I haven't read Poolie Bunker for a couple of days and I read this thread with interest. What struck me was the amount of misinformation that gets posted, I am sure this was not done deliberately but needs to be discussed. Chip Fireball, in particular ,seems to have got his facts wrong. On a number of occasions he states that the new Hartlepool First party are mainly members or supporters of U.K.I.P. and having failed under that umbrella formed a new party. Political parties do not publish membership lists so how does Chip know this. He does mention U.K.I.P. on a number of occasions and his dislike of that party comes through quite strongly, the fact that he admits to supporting the Lib/Dems probably explains this dislike.
Mouldy Old Dough described Steve Allison as Mandelson's Toot ? Steve Allison was Conservative candidate Gus Robinson's agent in the 2002 G.E. so I think M.O.D. must have got it wrong.
One of the subjects which keeps cropping up is the sale of the ground to I.O.R. If I was a candidate in the local elections I would agree to the sale but only at a price decided by the district valuer. The ground belongs to the whole of Hartlepool , and the council are the custodians of the town's assets. What troubles me is that we have no idea how much I.O.R. have offered or how much the council want for the ground. Until we get that information we cannot make a balanced judgement.

I haven't read Poolie Bunker for a couple of days and I read this thread with interest. What struck me was the amount of misinformation that gets posted, I am sure this was not done deliberately but needs to be discussed. Chip Fireball, in particular ,seems to have got his facts wrong. On a number of occasions he states that the new Hartlepool First party are mainly members or supporters of U.K.I.P. and having failed under that umbrella formed a new party. Political parties do not publish membership lists so how does Chip know this. He does mention U.K.I.P. on a number of occasions and his dislike of that party comes through quite strongly, the fact that he admits to supporting the Lib/Dems probably explains this dislike.
Mouldy Old Dough described Steve Allison as Mandelson's Toot ? Steve Allison was Conservative candidate Gus Robinson's agent in the 2002 G.E. so I think M.O.D. must have got it wrong.
One of the subjects which keeps cropping up is the sale of the ground to I.O.R. If I was a candidate in the local elections I would agree to the sale but only at a price decided by the district valuer. The ground belongs to the whole of Hartlepool , and the council are the custodians of the town's assets. What troubles me is that we have no idea how much I.O.R. have offered or how much the council want for the ground. Until we get that information we cannot make a balanced judgement.

Welcome.

Not much happening on the High Tax forum then??

So did the land that the council recently GAVE AWAY not belong to the town. Forgive me my memory gone I can't remember exactly where it was.

Explain the difference please.

Having read HTH a lot the UKIP bits seems fairly true, they may not have been members but share many of their ideologies.

They do appear to hate anyone or anything who isn't doing what they want or that they are not part of.

If Drummond and the local Labour group got together and put a tenner on the EuroMillions, won £100,000,000 and used it to cut council tax to £1.50 for ten years, build a new leisure centre, old folks lunch clubs, youth clubs all over, and free buses for everyone and train travel that means people can come and go from the town all day and night (not just till about 10pm) and god knows what other good things, then they would moan about the tenner being wasted that someone was left out, that someone living in Owton Manor couldn't afford the £1.50 and those in West Park should pay £5 or that it was unsustainable and we should all live in sand castles on seaton beach while local business owners get free rates and rent.

I tried to join that forum once, posted some suggestions for them, they wouldn't engage in a debate with me because I wasn't slagging anyone off, instead at least one of them got very personal and made some very snide remarks that almost amounted to an accusation of fraud. When the person doing the mud slinging was offered the chance to come and find out if his claims were true he shut up.

He was UKIP Campaigns Director between 2005 and 2009 and North East Regional Organiser for the party until 2009. He was elected to the Party’s National Executive Committee in August 2010.

So he's been Tory,( according to you) UKIP and Independent, now he's in Putting Hartlepool First..... quite a few affiliations to political groups that.

What's he going to be in next year ?????? Hartlepool Communist Party, Hartlepool Labour Party, or will he form another party.

He'll soon have been in more political parties than he's had birthday parties.

The ground does NOT have a sale value. The ground cannot be sold to anyone other than the football club. Its worth what the football club are prepared to pay.

If the club cannot get the ground then they are entitled to try and buy other land and build a new ground. Leaving the council with a piece of land it cannot sell.

The football club bring more to the people of Hartlepool than the council have ever done.

Please stop taking the piss.