ATOS & the DWP

GroovyCrimes · **Posted:** Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:05 pm

Anyone had any dealings ?

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:06 pm

What is that short for?

no6bus · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:55 pm **Posts:** 5095

DWP dept works and pensions i believe

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:39 pm

ATOS....Autonomous Decentralized Transport Operation Control System....is a computerized control system used by the East Japan Railway Company to regulate train traffic on railway lines in metropolitan Tokyo, Japan!!!!

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

MutleyRules wrote:

ATOS....Autonomous Decentralized Transport Operation Control System....is a computerized control system used by the East Japan Railway Company to regulate train traffic on railway lines in metropolitan Tokyo, Japan!!!!

and did you have any dealings with them?

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:40 pm

GroovyCrimes wrote:

Anyone had any dealings ?

Me and they were fooking clueless

dykey · **Posted:** Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:04 pm

The wife lost her mobi and dla care after a visit two years ago,I queried how a retired GP could overrule a specialist and did they get a bonus from DWP for getting people off dla.
We went to tribunal twice and lost,the judge there knew more about the wifes condition than she did.
Applied again and the doctor that came out was great,and the missus has got her mobi back and her care component.

Memo to anyone keep fighting for what they deserve,never give up.ATOS are bobbins

dykey · **Posted:** Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:07 pm

If anyone wants to know more pm me.

bresslaw · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:45 am **Posts:** 2411

Major dealings with ATOS Groovie

Pm me if you wanna know more, at work all day tomorrow so won't get back to you immediately though

ronaldo · **Joined:** Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:53 pm **Posts:** 861

My own experience was that they are sh*te , have heard reports from others , some good mostly bad. Be wary!

dykey · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:01 pm

apparently they are also calling people in for tests at buildings, where if u need help you dont get it to get to the paticular office in the building.

GroovyCrimes · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:35 pm

ronaldo wrote:

My own experience was that they are sh*te , have heard reports from others , some good mostly bad. Be wary!

A complete understatement.
ATOS are routinely awarding 0 points for the vast majority of people,in some cases less than 12 months after awarding 15 plus for the same people.
I am in full agreement that those with fake illnesses should be stopped however the government is using ATOS to launch a ruthless attack on all benefit claimants.
The success rate for those appealing against ATOS assessments is said to be at least 40%,(some sources claiming it is as high as 80%),can anyone tell me another organisation that has a fuck up rate as high as that ?

Could it be that ATOS are being told to say no & receiving a bonus ?
This suggests something is not quite right...

Quote:

When the Royal Mail paid Atos to assess postman Garry Hollingworth they said he should be medically retired. But just weeks later, when they assessed again him for ESA, Atos gave him zero points and passed him fit for work.

Someone provided help for those appealing but not for long...

Quote:

Colin Hampton of the Derbyshire Unemployed Workers' Centre (above) says he's had four identical cases.

He's dealing with hundreds of appeals with a 70% success rate, including people with lung cancer, brain tumours, asbestosis, cerebral palsy and spina bifida.

But last month the local Tory council scrapped the centre's £35,000 annual grant.

Two people diagnosed as fit for work died before their appeal could be heard

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jul/24/atos-case-study-larry-newman
http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/investigations/2011/02/sick-who-gives-atos.html

dykey · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:49 pm

Could it be that ATOS are being told to say no & receiving a bonus ?

I did email ATOS and asked them if they did get a bonus for getting ppl off DLA,ESA no surprise when they denied they did.Also all the people are fully qualified professionals,yet they ignore specialists findings and in my wifes case,based their findings on a 30 minute examination.He asked her to rise and walk from the setee to the stairs, a distance a 7-8 feet from this he deduced she could walk in excess of 100 metres..
Fight the fookers no matter what and like in my wifes case she got hers back

ATOS aggravating twats on speed

GroovyCrimes · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:52 pm

dykey wrote:

apparently they are also calling people in for tests at buildings, where if u need help you dont get it to get to the paticular office in the building.

From Wikipedia

Quote:

Accessibility of facilities

Atos claims all of its assessment facilities meet the legal accessibility requirements. However both the Disability Discrimination Act and the Equality Act require that a service provider make pre-emptive access provision based on the likely needs of its service users. In the case of Atos assessment centres those service users are overwhelmingly disabled, many being wheelchair users, or having limited walking capability, or have difficulty with sitting for long periods or rising from chairs, yet Atos's own documents [23] show that of its 55 assessment centres 28 do not have on-site disabled parking, 16 are more than a 5 minute walk from the nearest bus or train station/stop (DLA mobility assessments hinge on whether the claimant can manage to walk 50 metres), 29 are not wheelchair accessible and 15 fail to offer chairs with the arms which might be needed for disabled people to use them safely, with a half dozen more centres having only limited numbers of chairs with arms, in some cases as few as a single seat. When called before the Parliamentary Work And Pensions Select Committee a senior Atos representative admitted that they routinely overbooked appointments by at least 20%, apparently without heed to the limited ability to sit on poor seating for extended periods that affects many of their clients. Atos Healthcare also explained that nationally 30% of customer who have appointments do not attend.

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:54 am

Where do 'Smackheads' fall under all this????

Serious question!!!! confised

no6bus · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:55 pm **Posts:** 5095

they should be falling under a fooking big crushing machine preferably operated by someone they burgled

dykey · **Posted:** Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:26 am

I was at a tribunal at southwick with the missus,and a smackhead come in.He sat and shouted and shouted at one of the women advisors.Then he did same in his tribunal cos you could hear him,he Probably got his back

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:28 pm

GroovyCrimes wrote:

dykey wrote:

apparently they are also calling people in for tests at buildings, where if u need help you dont get it to get to the paticular office in the building.

From Wikipedia

Quote:

Accessibility of facilities

Atos claims all of its assessment facilities meet the legal accessibility requirements. However both the Disability Discrimination Act and the Equality Act require that a service provider make pre-emptive access provision based on the likely needs of its service users. In the case of Atos assessment centres those service users are overwhelmingly disabled, many being wheelchair users, or having limited walking capability, or have difficulty with sitting for long periods or rising from chairs, yet Atos's own documents [23] show that of its 55 assessment centres 28 do not have on-site disabled parking, 16 are more than a 5 minute walk from the nearest bus or train station/stop (DLA mobility assessments hinge on whether the claimant can manage to walk 50 metres), 29 are not wheelchair accessible and 15 fail to offer chairs with the arms which might be needed for disabled people to use them safely, with a half dozen more centres having only limited numbers of chairs with arms, in some cases as few as a single seat. When called before the Parliamentary Work And Pensions Select Committee a senior Atos representative admitted that they routinely overbooked appointments by at least 20%, apparently without heed to the limited ability to sit on poor seating for extended periods that affects many of their clients. Atos Healthcare also explained that nationally 30% of customer who have appointments do not attend.

I was called called to a place in Thornaby

The bloke who did my medical didn't have a clue about the condtion, the operation or treatment I had

he was a bellend

appleyapper · **Joined:** Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:25 pm **Posts:** 483

No experience yet but very shortly have to go along to a medical. Looking forward to this like a hole in the head, genuine people get nothing yet the alkies and smack heads get everything after reading all this I am getting mor and more anxious by the day.

dykey · **Posted:** Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:42 pm

TA,did you have to climb stairs to get to your appointment.

ronaldo · **Joined:** Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:53 pm **Posts:** 861

GroovyCrimes wrote:

ronaldo wrote:

My own experience was that they are sh*te , have heard reports from others , some good mostly bad. Be wary!

A complete understatement.
ATOS are routinely awarding 0 points for the vast majority of people,in some cases less than 12 months after awarding 15 plus for the same people.
I am in full agreement that those with fake illnesses should be stopped however the government is using ATOS to launch a ruthless attack on all benefit claimants.
The success rate for those appealing against ATOS assessments is said to be at least 40%,(some sources claiming it is as high as 80%),can anyone tell me another organisation that has a f*** up rate as high as that ?

Could it be that ATOS are being told to say no & receiving a bonus ?
This suggests something is not quite right...

Quote:

When the Royal Mail paid Atos to assess postman Garry Hollingworth they said he should be medically retired. But just weeks later, when they assessed again him for ESA, Atos gave him zero points and passed him fit for work.

Someone provided help for those appealing but not for long...

Quote:

Colin Hampton of the Derbyshire Unemployed Workers' Centre (above) says he's had four identical cases.

He's dealing with hundreds of appeals with a 70% success rate, including people with lung cancer, brain tumours, asbestosis, cerebral palsy and spina bifida.

But last month the local Tory council scrapped the centre's £35,000 annual grant.

Two people diagnosed as fit for work died before their appeal could be heard

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jul/24/atos-case-study-larry-newman
http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/investigations/2011/02/sick-who-gives-atos.html

The employer DWP are the paymasters of ATOS so its obvious the employer will want something in return , ie sackings!. Just like the old Personnel departments in large workplaces, supposed to be in the middle but in reality not so.

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:07 pm

dykey wrote:

TA,did you have to climb stairs to get to your appointment.

Yes, the fecker in front of me ran up them 3 at a time, when he got in the room he was walking like he had broken candles for legs

dykey · **Posted:** Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:23 pm

TalbotAvenger wrote:

dykey wrote:

TA,did you have to climb stairs to get to your appointment.

Yes, the fecker in front of me ran up them 3 at a time, when he got in the room he was walking like he had broken candles for legs

I wouldnt be surprised if the stairs werent monitored to catch ppl doing exactly that.

dykey · **Posted:** Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:24 am

Whilst our advice and reports are used in the decision making process, it is my understanding that Decision Makers do consider information from other sources when deciding entitlement to benefit.

Our HCP do not need to hold specialist registration. All our doctors are registered with the General Medical Council and nurses are registered with the Nursing and Midwifery Council and have received additional training as Disability Analysts and have been approved by the Secretary of State to carry out functional assessments on behalf of the DWP.

Regards

Christine

Customer Relations

A reply i recieved from ATOS a few months ago

ATOS & the DWP

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