If there was a march in your tonw or city would you go on it.

There is on where i live December 11th I would feel guilty not going on it

couldn't ever consider marching with them or any extremist group. they're a poor man's bnp, masquerading under an emotive title.

i'm far from a left-leaning bloke, but i'd be far more likely to be there in opposition.

WTF 0ur Forces have fought both Muslims & Nazis for fooks sake.

Poppy Burners- Scum.

EDL- Scum.

Get rid of the fooking lot.

so the answer is no so far , so what about the people who demonstrait against the edl.
by the way the police have changed the game here from Saturday to Friday night

Mick, demonstrating, at least peacefully, is part of the British Constitution. What's yer point?

BUT the only people protesting against Islamic extremists in such a manner

People are happy to criticise the muslim extremists and demand they are expelled from these shores yet when the EDL protest they are faced by ANL a holes and muslim (not so) extremists side by side. Someone has to speak up for the common man and although the conception of many is that it is a group of BNP/Footy Hoolies on a bender they are criticised and castigated for expressing their nationalist opinion, yet a horde of students backed by Socialist Worker (see ANL) kick off and everyone thinks it is "funny".

The EDL do not speak up for the common man.
They speak for a tiny thick minority who are lead by a few manipulative bullies.

Oh for Fooks sake Katcha- get a grip will ya.

The Anti-Nazi League & SWP aren't the same thing at all. Or do you see them all as a bunch of "lefties" whatever that means.

If yer gonna spam on about politics get your fooking references right.

Speaking for the common man
No fooking Nazi speaks for me.

The muslim extremists can fook right off. Most Muslims are peaceful law abiding people. They've lived in the UK for hundreds of years, mainly without incident.

The EDL/NF/BNP/Combat 18/BOM etc & all the other minor spin-offs don't speak for the majority of white indigenous English/Brits & hopefully never will.

Any muslim extremists who commit offences should be deported or imprisoned.

The law should be tougher on all thugs whatever colour & creed they are.

I don't live in a town or a city so the question is academic to me

so would you go on one or not that was the question lol

the problem is, every time the extremist's do a publicity stunt like the poppy burning the other day, more and more people will feel tempted to join the likes of the EDL. I would personally never join such a march but I fooking hate those extremists with a passion and nothing seems to be done about what they do.

It is okay you guys shooting down pooliemick's question but I tell you what, I sense really hatred towards the muslim race, 100% down to these extremists and unless something is done about it, I can see riots on the street.

waiting for the 'utter twaddle' response........

spot on

the thing is John, the 'eejits' are a huge number. It is okay you simply brushing aside the problem saying only 'eejits' think as much but i'm afraid I can only see the problem getting worse. Those 'eejits' are getting bigger and bigger in number and okay, most will not join marches but it does not mean that at some point the pot won't boil over.

Just want to clear up something, when I say that I sense hatred, I was referring to 'joe public' and not me personally.

[/quote]
Aye I know. We live in a society that has a frightening number of ignorant and insular people. I don't have an answer to fixing that one [/quote]

So should we have to put up with what went on the other day in our own country?

muslims are not a race, despite what people on both sides of this divide would have the rest of us believe. Being a muslim is the embodiment a religious belief - i.e. a thought process - not an ethnic type
Anyone can be a muslim, or a christian (yes I know I missed the capitals off there). And they are - of all colours and nationalities.
I fail to see how anti-muslim or anti-christian rhetoric is being racist, as in either case it would then technically be classed as being racist to people of all colours - and how can that be possible?
For me all religion is bollocks, and it is not a racist remark to shout down these people unless the colour of their skin is mentioned. If it is kept to a criticism of their beliefs than that is a different story - and I will be the first one to criticise them, as I do all religious beliefs.

I don't see what the fook that has to do with hating the entire muslim race? Did we hate all Irish people during the IRA's zenith? Actually, scrap that question, a fair few people probably did [/quote]

I hear it day in and day out, both old and young and from all backgrounds. Whether you agree or not, there is a problem that IMO, is only going to get worse. The poppy burning stunt will only make the situation worse/fueling the fire and yet nothing seems to be done about it apart from people simple deploring what went on. Extremism is wrong (on both sides accepted), but my argument today is that those twats should be strung up and yet they are allowed to do what they did cos we live in a democracy Anyway, i'm not articulate enough to have a long debate so will say no more.

So should we have to put up with what went on the other day in our own country?[/quote]

there are about 30 of them, and they want exactly the response they are getting. because that then leads to edl marches in cities with large muslim populations chanting racist crap. which in turn hacks off young muslims who feel they are being stereotyped.

the muslim action fellas and the EDL feed off each other, every time one demonstates the other benefits.

the only solution, as i said at the start, is to ban the lot of them.[/quote]

Agreed chip but nothing is ever done and they will be back again and again.

there are about 30 of them, and they want exactly the response they are getting. because that then leads to edl marches in cities with large muslim populations chanting racist crap. which in turn hacks off young muslims who feel they are being stereotyped.

the muslim action fellas and the EDL feed off each other, every time one demonstates the other benefits.

the only solution, as i said at the start, is to ban the lot of them.[/quote]


Why dont they just let them go toe to toe

Agreed chip but nothing is ever done and they will be back again and again. [/quote]

I hate fascism with a passion, but maybe these guys are a bit different.
I went to Dagenham the other week and it was a bit like a throw back to what London was when I lived there nigh on 40 years ago. Light and Bitter in the club.....bottles of light ale......cor blimey mate I nearly got me pearly jacket on!!
I love the diversity of our beloved land and as long as people want to join us and live like us then no problem at all, but no one has the right to think they can impose their views/opinions/bigotry on a country that they decide to live in

How you can try to distinguish between the ANL and the SWP (or those who attend their demos/counter demos) is beyond me. It is the same group of 'lefties', anti-state, anti- anything right of centre. Anarchists they used to be liked to be called. Just a bunch of left wing thugs bred and in-bred in a diatribe of anti-thatcherism parented by the idiots scargill hatton and co and continued since by countless scouse trade unionists and misguided public figures. They are on the whole, well organised and well funded. But back to the point of islamic extremists - note not fundamentalists - and the EDL. Whether you agree with the EDL or not - i don't give a fk by the way - they are the only people going on the street and protesting against the extremists. As several of you have done in this thread you have proved the point of my post - that the common man is content to complain over a pint, online, in the workplace, but sits back and does nothing whilst the protests, poppy & flag burning etc continues.

I've spent a fair bit of time in Asian communities and feel free to start up the outrage bus but; given the choice the majority of Muslims will side with the extremists before they will back the status quo of the UK. Thats the majority, most of them. Muslim fundamentalism is not some slack handful of nutters, its a big big number and a number that gets bigger all the time. Whether you like to admit it or not does not change the fact that its true.

Those of you who sit on the politically correct fence and espose ignoring them as the way forward are knitting while Rome burns. The danger is real and is growing.

I take Katchas point that the EDL are the only vocal opposition however they are not the way forward either.

As for the SWP and the ANL, bunch of arseholes who would protest the weather as long as the costs are paid for by someone else.

The only way to stop cultural tensions growing further is for the Government to act very publicly against the extremists, to give the message that you simply can't do that sort of thing or you will face very unpleasant sanctions.

Both the present and past Governments have seemed to let incidents like this fester, resulting in the growing popularity of the BNP/EDL etc, as well as muslims becoming attracted to extremism.

The EDL are completely abhorrent to me, but it is completely understandable why they came about.

I said they were NOT the way forward.

I don't think banning them is the answer Chip. I don't think many of them post on the Bunker anyway

Chip - my post states that i don't care for them, and I have never said that they have acheived anything either, all I have stated is that as much as the majority of people think they are a waste of space and idiots they are still the only people protesting against the rise of islamic extemism, be it in their own one-eyed way.

Perhaps the common man should get together and have an extremist anti extremist rally, cardis, berghaus and flasks the order of the day.

If people in a town like Hartlepool, where you could get all the niggers, browns, muslims, and yellows into a single bus shelter, are xenophobic, I'm not sure where else you could go to live.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_of_Blood_speech

42 years down the road and "Rivers of blood" still hasn't happened. Yet people are still playing the card.

I hope this thread dies a quick death. TBH I'd have knocked it on the head if i'd seen it earlier but I guess it at least reminds us who's who.

Can somebody explain what the fk Shaun Wright-Phillips has got to do with all of this?