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It's on the offical site:

Turner Resigns From Post At Victoria Park
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Chris Turner has today resigned from his position as Director of Sport with immediate effect.

Turner returned to Victoria Park in the newly-created role in 2006 but had taken on First Team duties following the departure of Danny Wilson in December 2008.

After bringing in twelve players at the start of last season, and with the three points deduction by the Football League, the team only just managed to stay in League One.

The start of this season has seen an excellent win over Sheffield United and two draws in the league.
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Mick Wadsworth has now been placed in temporary charge for this weekend's game with Yeovil Town at Huish Park.


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Hodcroft's notes in the programme on Saturday were a pretty public airing of differences in the camp. Lets hope he has a plan B.

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Theres a slightly vindictive undertone to that which is distasteful.


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Not the usual 'thanks for all his efforts and good luck for the future' in the short statement.


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Mr Wadsworth comes to a club. Distrubts it. The manager goes. He takes over. Thats never happened before has it!!!!!!!!


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Mr Wadsworth comes to a club. Distrubts it. The manager goes. He takes over. Thats never happened before has it!!!!!!!!



I dont think Wadsworth has disrupted the club. stpid

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Theres a slightly vindictive undertone to that which is distasteful.


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got a private message yesterday from marcos44
now bri just heard from "somebody" turner and ceo will resign thursday


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If the reason for Turner's departure was the quality of the 12 signings last year, or the three point deduction, or the relegation near miss then surely the parting of the ways should have occured over the summer. Maybe CT sided with the new potential owners and his statements about exciting developments was not approved by Hodcroft. Or is this a clearing of the decks before new owners come in? Either way the statement is quite vitriolic and doesn't reflect well on Hodcroft. I fear its just him refocusing on running the club rather than selling it, belatedly addressing issues and making sure everyone who the boss is.

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Odd time to do it after three relatively successful games. If IOR wanted him out he should have gone in May.

The fact that both he and Green have resigned (per the Mail) suggests a certain level of unhappiness behind the scenes, worried that this may get worse!

Based on Wadsworth's previous managerial experience I have no confidence in him taking over permenantly.


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Would there be any substance in thinking this is as a result of the takeover rumours being leaked from the club?


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This shouts of things behind the scenes is not good. We have started the season a lot better than people would have thought in the close season. I fear that Uncle Ken maybe behind this and the "special relationship" he had with turner has broken down, probably why also Russ has gone.

I was in the Turner out brigade but given the start to the season I was willing to stick with it and realised that he was working with no money and doing the best he could.

We all know IOR dont rush into anything so can see Wadsworth staying all season in the managers position, as i dont think IOR have a plan B or anyone to replace Turner.

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Heard that there is still heads to roll over the Liddle saga.

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One word: WHY???!!!!!

THREE GAMES UNBEATEN and our manager resigns!!!!


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as mampi said to me earlier there is definitely a

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we dont know :roll:


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The attendance at the next home game should be hheeeuuuuge! :shock:


The attendance will be very interesting.
Apparently we must have lost a 1000 supporters while turners been in charge:)

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bloody hell i wasnt expecting this, in tenerife thought id pop on to see if anythings happend and bam taz


seems to be a more pessemistic than optimistic view on here, i think even with the half decent start, and thats all it is, beating a weak shef utd side and drawing against a relegation candidate and a average club this is what the club needed, not sure abotu wadsworth though. do you think were planning on keeping him as manager or will we be looking for one?


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bloody hell i wasnt expecting this, in tenerife thought id pop on to see if anythings happend and bam taz


seems to be a more pessemistic than optimistic view on here, i think even with the half decent start, and thats all it is, beating a weak shef utd side and drawing against a relegation candidate and a average club this is what the club needed, not sure abotu wadsworth though. do you think were planning on keeping him as manager or will we be looking for one?


what i said earlier:

"We all know IOR dont rush into anything so can see Wadsworth staying all season in the managers position, as i dont think IOR have a plan B or anyone to replace Turner"

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Not the usual 'thanks for all his efforts and good luck for the future' in the short statement.


They didn't say that for Neale Cooper either.


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That is exactly what happened when I found out about Wilson leaving.

I'd hope we would look for a new manager myself.


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can i be the first conspiracy theorist?

KH wants Turner to leave after poor show last season, but it would cost too much to give him the push.

So KH makes Turners life a misery until he decides to leave of his own accord......

Hatchet Hodcroft strikes again???

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It is want 90% of this board wanted, or so it seems

And people are still thrapping their teeth


IOR, Damned it they do......


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I'd hope we would look for a new manager myself.


Obviously you havent got the sense you were born with, if you think thats going to happen any time soon.

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can i be the first conspiracy theorist?

KH wants Turner to leave after poor show last season, but it would cost too much to give him the push.

So KH makes Turners life a misery until he decides to leave of his own accord......

Hatchet Hodcroft strikes again???


My thoughts entirely!!


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can i be the first conspiracy theorist?

KH wants Turner to leave after poor show last season, but it would cost too much to give him the push.

So KH makes Turners life a misery until he decides to leave of his own accord......

Hatchet Hodcroft strikes again???


Mr.Hodcroft is now starting to annoy me with how trigger-happy he has become over the last few years.


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can i be the first conspiracy theorist?

KH wants Turner to leave after poor show last season, but it would cost too much to give him the push.

So KH makes Turners life a misery until he decides to leave of his own accord......

Hatchet Hodcroft strikes again???


My thoughts entirely!!


Not my thoughts....

I think this has been on the cards for weeks and a deal has been done with Turner!!!! :coool: :grin:


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another one could easily be Turner asked KH for the funds to keep Paul Murray on til the end of the season and KH refused.........Turner frustrated at the lack of funds, decides to walk.

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agree with Misterb2001, Turner has asked for more money and been told to do one, so he's walked


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Mr.Hodcroft is now starting to annoy me with how trigger-happy he has become over the last few years.


That is surely a wind up...trigger happy. He is far from it.

Scott given far to long in job before being replaced

Turner given far to long in the job and he has resigned so Hodcroft not being trigger happy there if he was he would have gone about 2 hrs after we were charged by the FA over Liddlegate.

Yes he has replaced managers, for reasons known only to himself/the managers in question...but trigger happy...your having a laugh

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another one could easily be Turner asked KH for the funds to keep Paul Murray on til the end of the season and KH refused.........Turner frustrated at the lack of funds, decides to walk.



Sounds like Martin O'Neill all over again. :roll:


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Perhaps the money genuinely has dried up from IOR and they aren't prepared to lose even more money to a manager that hasn't exactly spent wisely in his career. Turner leaving probably saves them the best part of £100k a year and they have Wadsworth there to take the reins.

I'm not saying that IOR could walk away but perhaps HUFC is becoming more of a burden than an advantage to own?


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Mr.Hodcroft is now starting to annoy me with how trigger-happy he has become over the last few years.



:laugh: :laugh: stpid :laugh: :laugh:


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Mr.Hodcroft is now starting to annoy me with how trigger-happy he has become over the last few years.


That is surely a wind up...trigger happy. He is far from it.

Scott given far to long in job before being replaced

Turner given far to long in the job and he has resigned so Hodcroft not being trigger happy there if he was he would have gone about 2 hrs after we were charged by the FA over Liddlegate.

Yes he has replaced managers, for reasons known only to himself/the managers in question...but trigger happy...your having a laugh


Yeah, but Bob, when have you ever heard of a manager resigning at the start of the season, three games unbeaten, good Cup win against a Championship side.

I think Turner may well have been pushed here.

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and have any of the above gone onto better things. Only Wilson is currently in employment with another club.


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Im glad turner has gone as he is a poor manager. His recent comments that the players are not fit enough was another damning aspect of his tenure, following on from his other gaffs.

It may be a pity that he isnt involved with the club in some way, shape or form (Its hard to gauge how good he was as a 'DOS' as opposed to a football manager).

Wadsworths record is also poor but assuming IOR only put him on a rolling contract then giving him a chance is not such a bad thing. We are still early in the season and giving wadsworth a couple of months in charge (albeit with turners players) makes sense.

It would be nice to find Hodcroft had Shearer lined up but I cant see it somehow. What is certain is that we need to get the fans back and such an appointment would do wonders.

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Strange timing though, if he was pushed why wasn't it a month ago, giving the Board a chance to recruit?
If he jumped why now? After a decent start to the season.
As some suggest disagreement over transfers/budget.
May be a kick up the arse the team needs to start turning 1 point into 3 on a more regular basis.

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can i be the first conspiracy theorist?

KH wants Turner to leave after poor show last season, but it would cost too much to give him the push.

So KH makes Turners life a misery until he decides to leave of his own accord......

Hatchet Hodcroft strikes again???


Mr.Hodcroft is now starting to annoy me with how trigger-happy he has become over the last few years.



Trigger happy, oh do get a grip you fannyarsed drama queenio

Cooper sacked for misconduct, easy
Scoot sacked for cause he was cack, easy
Wilson, fishing for another job, sacked
Turner sacked, 12 players signed, most of them bobbins, three points lost and nearly relegated twice, sacked

Hardly 'trigger happy', or as you daft enought to think Turner would turn it around this season


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Russ Green still appears as the chief exec in the 'who's who' list.
Turner has already been removed from said list.
So it would appear at this moment Russ has not gone.


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Not convinced that this season's results so far are very relevant to Turner going.

Hodcroft does job in a business like manner, and he comes from an industry where secrecy and adherence to management plans is absolutely key. If anybody leaks stuff or goes public in argument over policy they're gone. Football isn't oil extraction but if Hodcroft believes in these principles of management, and everything suggests he does, then departures can start to look different.

Turner 1- Left of own accord for 'bigger' things or at least future career development if it worked out. Not held against him as most manager types in business would do this and he conducted himself well.

Newell- All sorts of rumours at the time some of which caused problems for message boards so I won't repeat them. Not fitting with the business model though.

Cooper- Naughty in a footballer manner, didn't see why he shouldn't be, ignored warnings, allegedly.

Wilson- Gave "back me or sack me" ultimatum about spending and got bluff called. Calculated risk by Wilson who had checked out other options first. IOR might have known about this.

Turner now, my guess.
Given lots of extra time as he is a loyal, trusted employee. Was told that he had to lose West and accept Wadsworth in order to stay on though. Went a bit too public with pre-season comments and got Ken cross. Arguments with Wadsworth who was Ken's appointment based on Newcastle football mafia recommendations. Suggestions being made, possibly wrongly, that Turner or people round him were the cause of leaks in the summer. Agreement reached that Turner should resign to avoid the sack, looks better on CV and he has served IOR/Hodcroft well so why not be fair about the parting of the ways? Probably got a pay-off in return for confidentiality but less than he would have got if sacked.

Might be wrong about this but if Russ Green goes too that would add weight to the theory as would Wadsworth getting an extended run.


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can i be the first conspiracy theorist?

KH wants Turner to leave after poor show last season, but it would cost too much to give him the push.

So KH makes Turners life a misery until he decides to leave of his own accord......

Hatchet Hodcroft strikes again???


Mr.Hodcroft is now starting to annoy me with how trigger-happy he has become over the last few years.



Trigger happy, oh do get a grip you fannyarsed drama queenio

Cooper sacked for misconduct, easy
Scoot sacked for cause he was cack, easy
Wilson, fishing for another job, sacked
Turner sacked, 12 players signed, most of them bobbins, three points lost and nearly relegated twice, sacked

Hardly 'trigger happy', or as you daft enought to think Turner would turn it around this season


On three of those occasions, the Club never told us what had ACTUALLY happened as opposed to all the rumours that there were afterwards.


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On three of those occasions, the Club never told us what had ACTUALLY happened as opposed to all the rumours that there were afterwards.


That is not then Trigger-Happy but not airing peoples dirty washing in public. Honestly you do baffel me sometimes.

Turner was crap he has gone end off. Anyone "in the know" or someone who has spent any time around the town knows why Cooper, Newell left we dont need to say it on her but everyone has a good idea.

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On three of those occasions, the Club never told us what had ACTUALLY happened as opposed to all the rumours that there were afterwards.


I've said this on many occasions and no one has given me an answer yet...

Why should they ???????

If you run a business do you tell everyone your business.

Did Kiss airlines inform all their paying customers who were booked on flights they were in some sort of financial difficulty and going bust, they must have known they were struggling but they carried on taking bookings.

Don't say we're fans and have the right to know everything because the simple fact is we don't have that right.

As a fellow Poolie POK I want to know the following about you , so please answer the following

1 are you still a virgin ??
2 if the answer to number 1 is no what age were you when you lost it ??
3 have you ever had an intimate relationship with a member of the same sex ??
4 do you share all your private life with fellow students you share accommodation with ??
5 If you wont answer these questions why should IOR divulge everything to you.
6 have you got a STI in case I stand near to you at a game

I don't expect a reply( they rhetorical questions) as all the above is your business but although a bit over the top it has the same principal as you wanting to know IOR business 24/7

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:20 pm 
The tone of that statement is fooking shocking.

Here’s my take on things. We scarped to survival on the last day of the last after the whole ‘Liddlegate’ farce. It was the end of a pretty disjointed directionless season, apathy was the buzz word. Just about everybody to man thought things had to change. I’m sure the owners felt the same, they clearly did.

So the summer passes and first goes Colin West, no way would Turner have made that decision, it surely came from above. Maybe they thought he’d walk with his mate? He didn’t, maybe the club were left with a manager they didn’t want and weren’t prepared to sack. Much like Danny Wilson a couple of pre seasons ago. Remember that summer? We were linked to all sorts of players of the pre season and brought in three (Mark Cook, Alan Power, and Richie Jones from memory) the comparisons to now are apparent. I thought at the time they were trying to sicken Wilson off, I first got the feeling the same was happening to Turner a few weeks ago.

I don’t blame the owners for not giving Turner any money, he signed 12 players last summer alone and we didn’t do any better. Playing Gary Liddle when he was banned just summed up the state of things. If they didn’t have any faith or trust in him any more why didn’t they do something about in May? He could have left the managers seat or club with thanks and the respect he deserved. Not some shabby couple of paragraph statement littered with digs at him and not word of thanks.

It would to nice to know what the fook is going on at the club at the moment, I won’t hold my breath though…………….


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Fetish.
Well, we should have that right in my opinion, especially in the case of Kiss because people who flew out with them were left having to pay the money that Kiss didn't pay.


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Fetish.
Well, we should have that right in my opinion, especially in the case of Kiss because people who flew out with them were left having to pay the monkey that Kiss didn't pay.


What were they getting off the monkey?

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Thank you, Mr. PJ. clappp


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