Take over-not Transco -could be one of these?

effionthedragon · **Joined:** Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:49 pm **Posts:** 309

http://www.subsea.org/company/allbycity ... y=Aberdeen

As Lord Chip has already noted probably FA happening at the Vic with any takeover until the ground issue gets sorted.

The link list gives you an idea as to how many Oil & Gas companies IOR have connections or potential connections with up in Abderdeen.
At least half a dozen rumours coming from contacts in the Granite City about potential companies that may be looking at getting involved with Pools - all bolox I suspect when it comes to actual fact.
Rumours are mainly of IOR touting Pools round their contacts but I reckon that's all they are -rumours .

Believe nowt until the deals sealed!

effionthedragon · **Joined:** Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:49 pm **Posts:** 309

chip fireball wrote:

theres a difference of course between investement and a total takeover.

investment could come in the form of a sponsorship from one of ior's sister comapnies, or a straightforward cash injection. this could be to ease any cashflow issues or because ior are fed up of pouring money into a black hole.

a takeover is something altogether different, and it would be hard to envisage that happening while talks are ongoing between ior and the council in relation to the ground sale. ownership of the ground would be key to any takeover imho. and this is why i've maintained all along that any major influx of cash would be a long term thing rather than it be sitting in the bank now.

we did have newbies popping up on the board a few weeks ago telling us that pools had the cash and that even the players had been told this.

as i said at the time, probably a case of chinese whispers. i can imagine senior pro's expressing a concern about the lack of signings and them being advised money was on its way. there is of course another world of difference between the money required to sign 3 triallists and the £10 million being bandied about by some.

its important that expectations are managed, and that fans dont suddenly believe pools are minted. because if the money doesnt materalise then people start blaming the club, even though they have never said huge investment or a takeover is imminent.

its noticeable that when the people spreading these rumours were asked to name their sources they vanished as quickly as they appeared. which isnt to say they are fundamentally wrong. it may just mean they were putting 2 and 2 together and making 15.

my understanding at the moment is that turner has requested funds and a small amount may be available.

Concurring Chip.
Hodcroft may be able to pull in some extra funds from one of the companies on the Aberdonian list but as for a huge cash injection/10 mil/takeover-Complete shyte in my view.

I also heard a rumour abt Sabic putting money in -again, complete shyte.
They were asked to put money into the Smoggies & declined that invitation. No way they're going to put money into Pools.

What are you lads in Pools hearing abt the ground sale?.

Any Dodgepots actually work in the Estates Dept at the Council? That's the best place for info Council
Land/asset sales.

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

In which time we will be floundering in the bottom 4, crowds will be down to sub 3000 and any prospective investor might think, foook this, there's better things to be putting our money into.

Seriously though it's very worrying that IOR could possibly be looking for new investment or even to sell the club.
We have had some great times with them at the helm and financially we have never been better.
A lot of supporters have assumed they are here for the long haul and even though the statements put out by Mr Hodcroft recently have critisised the lack of support from the town as reflected in attendances the general feeling has been to go onwards and upwards with the current owners.

So, the lack of investment in the playing staff, silence from the club doesn't bode very well at all.
Exciting times ahead??? I'd think it's very worrying times instead.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22683

I'm convinced that IOR want out. Turner is not so bad a manager than he can't identify any target signings and he isn't so stupid that he would tell the press that he had 'exciting signings' lined up if he believed at the time that he would be allowed to sign anyone.

Don't be fooled by all the talk all this player or that one, the plain simple fact is that other than a non league goalkeeper some time ago, Pools have not signed a single solitary player in the close season. That shouts from the rooftops that turner has had the cheque book shut in his face.

alienlife · **Posted:** Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:13 am

I would love to tell you to stop being so negative MrI but without believing some of these rumours I can only go on facts, those are that we have a weaker squad, a manager who has proven not to be up to it for 2 seasons, a non league coach (who may be very good for us), and a weaker squad (Unless somehow those 2 creative midfielders and the on loan forward we had weakened the side)
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If an investor was putting money in then it would have been a better idea to make the money available much earlier in the close season so pools could have had a much better chance of getting the best players. I am sure even an investor that wasn't a huge football person would understand this, and because of that I call BS on the whole rumour.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22683

I tend to go along with Chip's theory that the ground has to be part of the deal.

alienlife · **Posted:** Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:30 am

I wonder what the difference in value is between the club as it stands with no real assets and a record of making big losses and the club with its own stadium and land?

I imagine it is quite a big one, but that worries me more than he current lack of signings.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:05 pm

What a bundle of joy you lot are.

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:42 pm

Just become a member and logged in to cheer myself up!
Any1 got a rope and wobbly stool?

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:52 pm

Thanks for the tip bbolt

Jackystache · **Joined:** Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:26 pm **Posts:** 58

Im in the very 'concerned' camp,over all this....

whichever way we look at it things arent looking good at this present moment in time-grave uncertainty in my eyes over the clubs future off the pitch,whilst on it I cant honestly say there is a team more 'prepared,and ready for relegation' than we are.

Im seriously concerned about our plight,not just in the short term-ive a feeling the good times under IOR are now a thing of the past-KH and co planning to jump ship,and withold any further financial help to dig us out of this hole? thats the way its looking to me.
I think we are doomed to go down,barring a miracle-but thats not my biggest fear-its the future of my club/who owns it and where we will end up that is the real fear.

chester/aldershot/maidstone are never far from my mind.............

Things have been worse for us of course,but the future isnt looking too bright either.

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:26 pm

monkeybutt wrote:

Any1 got a rope and wobbly stool?

Don't do it! Wobbly stools have a notorious habit of going off prematurely before you get your head in properly.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:01 am

Jackystache wrote:

Im seriously concerned about our plight,not just in the short term-ive a feeling the good times under IOR are now a thing of the past-KH and co planning to jump ship,and withold any further financial help to dig us out of this hole?

Yep, like when they went and got O'Donovan on loan to "dig us out of a hole". :roll:

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