World Cup predictions - final four.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22683

I've been studying the alternatives for the oh so confusing draw for the remainder of the world cup. My prediction of an England v Spain final is impossible, therefore my adjusted predictions for the semi finals are as follows:

Uruguay v Holland
Spain v England

Yes Uruguay may look like a surpise but their draw means they will play South Korea next followed by USA or Ghana in the quarters. I also think that after beating Mexico, Brazil will come unstuck against the Dutch.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22683

Brazil were hardly world beaters last night when they had to play their first good team - a European team incidentally. Other than that they've played the Ivory Coast and N Korea. I'm not sure how you can make a serious judgement on those games.

The Argies have looked like what they are, a good attacking team but lacking a defence. But similarly to Brazil they've played no one of note yet. S Korea, Nigeria and Greece. Lets see how they do against a recognised top 8 team.

England haven't looked great either but have only conceded one goal and that was a daft goalkeeping error.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22683

MadJohn wrote:

Argentina have also only conceded just once and that goal, like USA's against England, was down to one individual mistake. Anyway, in the interests of balance, I guess it's fair to say that England have looked like a good defensive team but lacking an attack?

Thats fair comment. I guess that I'd prefer to be in England's situation rather than the Argies. We have an attack that hasn't clicked yet whereas they don't have a defence that they can pull out of the hat. The positive is that up to now England have played without the real Wayne Rooney. Whether he catches fire or not is possibly the difference between England being successful or not.

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

The Argies are definitely there for the taking from what I've seen, defensively they've not had anyone have a go at them yet and this is when they will crumble. Greece played one upfront for example and Samaras still managed to cause them no end of problems and should have scored.

I don't know what chip was watching to suggest Spain were 'lucky' to get past Chile. Spain were always in control as soon as they went 1-0 up and if they had really needed to they could have stepped it up even further.

It's still very open and I think if we play we the same desire we did on Wednesday then we'll cause teams problems. Rooney has to find his shooting boots/head though. Messi hasn't scored yet but the Argies have still knocked in 7 goals, we've scored 2.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22683

We'll do alright against the Argies, I know from personal experience that they struggle to hold on to a lead against English opposition. :grin:

JohnnyMars · **Joined:** Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:24 am **Posts:** 2484

We will beat the Cloggies in the Final taz

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22683

Dear Mr Fireball,

I read your recent post with interest however I find it factually ridiculous and the overall argument lacking in substance. Whilst I would like to spend time correcting your assertions I am going out tonight and have to get ready. In the meantime please feel free to dream up more spurious theories.

chunky1988 · **Joined:** Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:33 pm **Posts:** 1066

chip fireball wrote:

when was the last time a european team won the world cup when it was played outside of europe ?

the european teams ( bar holland ) have looked very average, the lowest number have qualified from the group stages since the new set-up in 86, but you reckon 3 of them will make the last 4 ?

and argentina and brazil wont.

spain were lucky to get past a chile side that had little to play for last night.

everyone knows which part of the world has the best teams at the moment , and it aint europe. :wink:

Chile had little to play for? apart from the fact that if switzerland won and they got beat they would be going home? when chile were 2-0 down it took a switzerland goal for them to be exiting at the group stage.

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

I'm starting to believe chip and Mr I haven't watched a game between them this World Cup. If neither of them have a tele they should feel free to pop round to mine. Both are welcome if they fancy it and can't get to the box.

Argentina have apparently battered this opposition so far, they certainly didn't batter Nigeria 1-0 and it took them 75 mins to score against a woeful Greece team that played one upfront.

As for this 'virtual bye' to the Semis, I think this confirms that Mr Fireball hasn't watched any of Uruguay or Ghana's games so far.

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

chip fireball wrote:

the bookies make it spain, brazil, argentina, and uraguay.

Which bookies is this?

Everyone I can see make England and Holland with lesser odds than Uruguay despite both having an extra game to play.

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:39 pm

chip fireball wrote:

chile played almost the entire game with 10 men. if that was a sending off then there should have been 100 of them this world cup.

to suggest brazil have beaten nobody simply confirms the posters total lack of knowledge. unlike the european teams who effectively qualify by beating shyte like the faroe islands and lietchenstein, brazil play 18 qualifying games, a lot of them against proper teams, and their european players fly halfway across the world for every game. check the results of those 18 games and tell me they have beaten nobody. i think what you meant is that brazil lose a game approxiamtely once every 2 years. irrespective of who they play.

argentina havent played much in the way of quality opposition, but they battered them, even when playing their reserves. england on the other hand couldnt beat the usa or algeria. or even look like beating them. they had a virtual bye to the semis and fked it up.

we have a bunker fantasy league. im suprised you didnt enter it mr i. i reckon you would be bottom. :wink:

Colombia, Ecuador, Venezuela, Peru & Bolivia are certainly football powerhouses, Mr Chap

Compo · **Posted:** Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:44 am

chip fireball wrote:

unlike some i put my neck on the block by entering the 42 person bunker world cup fantasy league. the fact i am top at the halfway stage suggests i have been watching. :wink:

How have you got three argie players in your team or can you do this now at the second stage?

BillinghamPoolie · **Posted:** Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:47 am

Compo wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

unlike some i put my neck on the block by entering the 42 person bunker world cup fantasy league. the fact i am top at the halfway stage suggests i have been watching. :wink:

How have you got three argie players in your team or can you do this now at the second stage?

Three from each team for the last 16 and quarters, and up to four for semis and finals.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22683

Well at least I got the first one right.

Spain v Holland final coming up!

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:08 pm

Mr I wrote:

Well at least I got the first one right.

Spain v Holland final coming up!

I think you mean Germany v Holland Final!!!! :coool:

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:20 pm

chip fireball wrote:

current betfair prices on teams to make the final 4 ( thats what we are discussing in this thread, hence the title ) :

uraguay 8/11
spain 5/6
brazil 5/6
argentina 5/4
holland 7/4
england 3/1
germany 100/30

hth.

Germany will win

Or Spain

I hope its Spain, I bet on them about three months ago to win and David Vanilla to be top scorer

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22683

MutleyRules wrote:

Mr I wrote:

Well at least I got the first one right.

Spain v Holland final coming up!

I think you mean Germany v Holland Final!!!! :coool:

No.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22683

Just because Germany stuffed England doesn't make them particularly good. The Argies will see them off then get beat off Spain.

Holland will beat Uruguay comfortably.

Final Holland 1 Spain 3

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:47 am

Semi Finals
Holland should stuff Uruguay
Germany will beat Spain

Germany vs. Holland in the final.

Germany will win.

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:12 pm

Mr I wrote:

Just because Germany stuffed England doesn't make them particularly good. The Argies will see them off then get beat off Spain.

Ahem!!!!

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:10 am

chip fireball wrote:

i'll tell you what talbot... i will bet you a tenner a south american team will win the world cup.

you can have the rest of the world.

So which of them are you pinning your hopes on to save your tenner Mr Fireball? :laugh:

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:17 pm

Mr Ripper wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

i'll tell you what talbot... i will bet you a tenner a south american team will win the world cup.

you can have the rest of the world.

So which of them are you pinning your hopes on to save your tenner Mr Fireball? :laugh:

Sadly I didn't take the bet, I doubt U r gay will win, however I will hang on chips every word, because his footballing brain is bigger then mine

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22683

Spain will win, how many times do you need telling? my arse and binns window springs to mind.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22683

Ahem.....

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:31 pm

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:06 am

Did he put his money where his mouth is though like I did????

Not that I'm gonna win anything like!!!! banghead

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:46 am

chip fireball wrote:

after holland won you were crazy not tohave 50 quid on spain like mr tax payer suggested.

would havemeant you won at least 100 quid whatever happend.

I had £50 on Spain to win the WC & 50 on Davey Vanilla to be top scorer in the W/C

H.TH

PS

I didn't put a penny on any of the South Americas

TIA

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:28 pm

chip fireball wrote:

you actually backed peter crouch to be top scorer at 50/1 and advised others to do likewise because you said england would pagger everyone in their group.

oh and if you dont stop abusing sussex i will ban you for a week.

howzat ?

so what, I put one pound, yes one big pound on that and yes I did think England would pagger all the teams in our group, just like you with the South Americans, hindsight, eh?

Abusing him, he is a tool, you only banned yourself for three days despite having a potty mouth and for those day you were off on your OAP outing

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:43 pm

chip fireball wrote:

1) a pound each way is 2 pounds in total

2) how long i ban someone for depends on how much i like them. obviously i like me much more than i like you.

3) i didnt go anywhere last weekend.

4) last time i looked villa was only joint top scorer, so you havent won yet, and i certainly wouldnt back against klose or muller netting against uraguay on saturday either so i wouldnt count your chickens just yet.

5) last week you were bleating about people not being banned. well i've just sent you an official warning. next time you are gone. refyellow

Tell you what, I can't stand your overblown, narcissistic self, so in the interests of not being banned from a site I have financially contributed to and Sussex hasn't I won't reply to your missives anymore

h.th

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:38 pm

chip fireball wrote:

what you have and havent contributed financially to the board is irrelevant. rules are rules. as i've said, if you live by the sword, you sometimes get injured by the sword. you cant bleat about abuse then go around dishing it out yourself.

i dont care wether you read my posts or not, im telling you to stop abusing people and the final warning has been sent officially following the correct procedure. you are on a final warning. one more instance of abuse and you are gone.

Fair do's along you do the same EVERYTIME you shot your gord off, OK?

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

TalbotAvenger wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

after holland won you were crazy not tohave 50 quid on spain like mr tax payer suggested.

would havemeant you won at least 100 quid whatever happend.

I had £50 on Spain to win the WC & 50 on Davey Vanilla to be top scorer in the W/C

H.TH

PS

I didn't put a penny on any of the South Americas

TIA

Oh. You written this the other day...

"TalbotAvenger Post subject: Re: World Cup odds... Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:34 pm

My WC bets are as follows

Single To Win P Crouch (England) @ 50/1 Top Goalscorer Pending £1.00
World Cup 2010 Top Goalscore D Villa (Spain) @ 8/1 £5.00

I'll be rich I tell ye, RICH "

So you changed your £5 stake to £50?

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:26 pm

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

TalbotAvenger wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

after holland won you were crazy not tohave 50 quid on spain like mr tax payer suggested.

would havemeant you won at least 100 quid whatever happend.

I had £50 on Spain to win the WC & 50 on Davey Vanilla to be top scorer in the W/C

H.TH

PS

I didn't put a penny on any of the South Americas

TIA

Oh. You written this the other day...

"TalbotAvenger Post subject: Re: World Cup odds... Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:34 pm

My WC bets are as follows

Single To Win P Crouch (England) @ 50/1 Top Goalscorer Pending £1.00
World Cup 2010 Top Goalscore D Villa (Spain) @ 8/1 £5.00

I'll be rich I tell ye, RICH "

So you changed your £5 stake to £50?

My brain got the better of my hands or some such cack, it is indeed a fiver, I'll still be rich

PS

Why do a lot of posters now feel the need to type in a certain stylee.....

like this

hello. how are you.

Just a thought, like

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:27 pm

chip fireball wrote:

yes, that goes without saying.

OK, this could go on for ever, but......

A week ban for me but a three day ban for a mod

Rules is rules

BillinghamPoolie · **Posted:** Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:29 pm

Doesn't everyone post 'in a certain style'?

Or am I missing your point!

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:35 pm

BillinghamPoolie wrote:

Doesn't everyone post 'in a certain style'?

Or am I missing your point!

I don't know

a lot of people are typing in a certain manner favoured by a particular poster

No harm in it, I just wondered why

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:44 pm

chip fireball wrote:

you are on a final warning. one more instance of abuse and you are gone.

Give over....if that was the case they'd be no-one posting on here!!!! :roll:

A Yellow Card for calling someone a Turps drinker....whatever next!?!? :laugh:

I'm glad you're only joking about the Ban!!!! :laugh:

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:08 pm

chip fireball wrote:

:wink:

had him going tho didnt i ? :coool:

To be honest a week ban from the bunker doesn't phase me, I'm a big lad now

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:14 pm

chip fireball wrote:

i heard you rang the samaritans about 4 o clock like.

I was speaking to my bookie at the time regarding Brazil's chances in the next WC

They said ask Chip

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:16 pm

MutleyRules wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

you are on a final warning. one more instance of abuse and you are gone.

Give over....if that was the case they'd be no-one posting on here!!!! :roll:

A Yellow Card for calling someone a Turps drinker....whatever next!?!? :laugh:

I'm glad you're only joking about the Ban!!!! :laugh:

It's a good job I didn't call him a 'Turps nudging, eight ace lookalikey, caravan dwelling, piss stained Harold Ramp, Porch Monkey, sister shagging silly boy' then, eh?!

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