http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/north- ... -26780899/

I am led to believe there may well be something in this. I fricking hope so

yay now we can afford the likes of Lampard, Gerrard, Terry

This has been going on for months.

The players who have said stuff (that i made up stories from before, obviously ) mentioned they were told in training there were 'exciting times' coming for the club this week.

I believe it was derwent who posted this first a while back and I pm'ed him about it. Looks to be right.

Im certainly not going to count my chickens but fingers crosed!

If it does happen the first thing they need to do is put Turner on the dole.

You would hope the club would realise not to trust him with spending any funds should we get some.

Usual fkin suspects trying to turn anything potentially remotely positive into a negative and a whinge.

So very very sad.

Interesting.

Whatever

I have every reason to believe it is true.

How much have you heard from Hodcroft lately?

Something is going to happen, this week I reckon.

In concurance

...could that possibly coincide with Mr.S......due back from the World Cup coverage perhaps?

The way that he goes on you can only imagine that he was in his cot at the time.

There's no way that anybody over the age of about 12 could come out with some of the garbage that he spouts.

Very true Chip, there was nothing negative written but like Grave they also enjoy banging their gums and look for any excuse to whinge that other people are whinging even when it isnt a whinge. (if u get me)

You two can't seriously believe what you've just written?

Yeah I did report on it. TBH I thought it had fallen through but hopefully it hasn't.
When I was informed I was assured it was not pie in the sky and my source has continued to make me think positively over it. Wait and see was the answer. So I am waiting and soon we may see.

Apparently there are people who are convinced that an assault on the championship and steps taken to ensure we have a good chance of staying there will attract the crowds to the Vic. A target of 8000 from the town, 4000 from the surrounding areas plus the increased away support will justify investment in the stadium which will increase the capacity to 12 thousand plus, with a target of 15 thousand. It all sounds very grand but if enough investment is forthcoming then it could happen. I would love to think so.
The north east regularly provides very good championship crowds so maybe more would be attracted to the Vic. Why not eh?????

So the above two posts aren't negative and basically reiterating their previously overstated desire to try and make sure that everybody knows that they don't like Chris Turner? I'm just surprised that neither of those posts actually referred to the bloke as c**t.

That would be tremendous Mr D, I really hope that you're onto something but concur about sitting in the wait and see room before getting too excited!

Concurring fully with grave and chip

Ripper

Someone said something similar down our way a few years ago, 10000 from the town, 5000 each from Boro, the Mags & the Mackems. Look what happened!
Lets face it, 8000 crowds from either of our clubs are the exception, not the norm. Even when either club is flying in the league 6000 is generally a good crowd. As long as the potential owner doesnt have any daft ideas like some of ours have had, then any investment is welcome for either club.

He did ok during his first spell but he has lost the plot since as shown by his 'record' elsewhere. He certainly hasnt cut the mustard in league 1 has he. Its one thing letting him scrape the barrel for some cheap signings but would anyone REALLY want the club to throw money at him and let him (probably) waste it. His signings last season wont have been on miniscule wages and the vast majority were average at best.

Would you agree with that MJ, or would you be happy for CT to sign a load more players on long term deals?

Im not going to ask Ripper as he is an two faced imbecile.

I know that, you know that...

i thought Haslam was a spot on signing. He was brought in as cover for the defence and did a job when called upon.

The irony of that sentence is tremendous, although not surprising. You went to special school didn't you.

Anyone who thinks Turners tenure first time round was just 'ok' is a buffoon.

Turner did very well first time round. Three very successful seasons in the fourth tier, plus a part of one.
That prompted Sheff Wed to offer him the job there. In their eyes he failed so they sacked him.
He got the Stockport job and was also sacked from that.
Those that are keeping up will note that so far his record in the third tier is not very successful.
He then came back to Pools shortly before we were relegated to the fourth tier. People must make up their own minds as to how much influence he had on that.
We were promoted automatically under Wilson at the first attempt, so how would folks describe his performance?
As I've used the words very successful to describe Tuners first stint ( which is better than ok ), how should I describe Wilson's automatic promotion at the first attempt coupled with his multiple manager of the month awards, culminating in the manager of the season award ?????????
Back to Turner...........in his second stint in the managerial chair are we satisfied with his performance???
Each will judge in accordance with how people rate finishing one place out of the relegation spots two seasons in a row.
There I have given an opinion on both his tenures although, in truth, I am only interested in the here and now.

As for me.....whereas I was happy at his first stint I am far from happy at his second. That's how I see it and calling me negative or whatever is not going to change that.
Calling each other buffoons or whatever is nothing short of childish. Aren't we allowed to have differing opinions?

I like Turner as a person and would not be upset if he returned to his DOS role or even chairman but controlling first team selection, motivation and tactics is a no no for me. Hopefully Wadsworth will change that but we'll have to wait and see.

But Grave is a buffoon, i'm merely stating a fact

bastads

LOL, its pointless debating anything. I felt CT did 'ok'. No more no less. I think the amount of backing he got should have resulted in play-off campaigns at the very minimum. It did.

However each time somebody slags Turner off you/Ripper/MrB will bring up the play-off seasons in an effort to provide a counter argument. Turner has lost the plot since this time and has failed everywhere he has been. The play-off seasons were also in league 2 and Turner doesnt have what it takes at league 1 level. These are the reasons why I responded to your question in the manner that I did.

It is a flawed comparison to make between Turners first spell and the position we are in now.

ps, I will ask again MJ, would you be happy for CT to be given these 'funds' and given the opportunity to sign some more 'average' players on long term deals?

HTHFWIW

No I don't.

More lies to try and backup your argument.

Turner has never done anything but fail.

Management isnt for him however iv come to agree i hope he stays at the club now, but upstairs and not dealing with signing players or tactics etc

Does that include keeping us in the league when he first took over?

Mick Tait would have even kept us up if given that sort of money, it was unheard of for a Pools manager.

Fact is his management CV has nothing but failure on it.

Apart from keeping us in the league

h.th

You've actually probably convinced yourself that that's true.

Since 07-11-2002

P224 W58 L103 D31

Turner only signed 1 player the year he kept us up didn't he?

Strodder, Jones, Freestone werent it?

Ooh I dunno now, I thought they came the following season?

Nope.

My memory is terrible

I am happy to credit Turner with the success he had the first time round, much like I am happy to give overwhelming credit to Wilson for his first season.

It's all pretty irrelevant what he achieved a decade ago though when you see what he has 'achieved' since he ditched us for Wednesday.

This rumour is apparently true according to one of the players Pools are set to receive between 10 and 15 Million. I find this hard to believe as you could buy the club for that but thats a quote ive been told from one of the players.

John, don't let the facts get in they of pure pig ignorance

Regardless of the cost, Fourstones goals helped us stay in the league, as did Strodders defending

Coppinger was a loanee, and Samshilton came from Coventry on a free after playing six matches

IOR's remit was to stay in the league regardless of the cost, Turner did what was asked of him that season
No one whinged at the time, so why now?

Come one chip, don't be so parsimonious

whining and re-writing of the past has appeared in many a thread

Mcavoy and Shilton may of played for clubs in higher divisions, but they weren't first teamers , they could hardly get a place in their reserve teams