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 Post subject: Hartlepool players and their contracts
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:12 am 
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Does anyone know if we have players out of contract this season? I know we've signed quite a lot of players at the start of this season, however some of them have hardly played so we may get shot.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:24 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool players and their contracts
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I think its fair to say, in light of recent events, Mr alien would probably change a few of them ratings - starting with No1.


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I think people should really be enjoying the fact that turner has finally found a winning formula and it looks very likely we are staying in this division.

hindsight and a bit of research are wonderfull tools to have but you cant get get away from the fact the the team as it stands now is doing the buisness.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:57 pm 
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Was talking to Billy Greulich on Facebook tother week and he's out of contract at end of.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool players and their contracts
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:11 pm 
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Chip,

Find the post where I said Ritchie Jones was shite, as an extra challenge see if you can do it without abuse and insults.

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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool players and their contracts
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:28 pm 
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In fact fuck it. Chip I have done it for you.

alienlife wrote:
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anyone who cant see that jones is a good player, really shouldnt be expressing an opinion. almost certain to be playing for a better team than pools next season if turner stays.



Jones is a good player certainly capable at a higher level if he plays to the best of his ability, there are one or two more in the squad that carry that tag too IMO.

Whether it is a fault of Turner or the player that Jones doesn't perform on a consistent basis for pools is open to discussion but I would prefer 10 Average mid table players with the commitment Humps showed in the 1st half yesterday (and the legs to repeat it for 90 minutes) than one or two that are capable of destroying a premier league midfield but can't be arsed on a cold Tuesday evening at Carlisle.

I am not saying I don't want to see top players at the vic but only ones that have the heart to play for the club regardless of opposition.


Now where in that statement do I say Jones is a poor player? Pray tell because I am obviously missing something that you can see between the lines of my text.

You seem to have this delusion where your world is one in which your opinion is fact and nothing else matters. The ratings I made at that point were based on what I had seen from the players, having seen McSweeney have a run of games I would change that, Humphreys is probably still past it but his heart in the last few games makes him seem like a must have character if the other players are inspired by him (which not having the desire to hang around with them I wouldn't know).

To be honest I am not even sure why I am giving you a response you are a very pathetic little man, this thread was posted by someone asking who was out of contract, I replied with the 2 players I was certain were out of contract and made no further comment. You decided to use it as an excuse to call me thick again, I hope it makes you feel big and clever, there is of course always counselling sessions you could attend if you still have any emotional scars left from being bullied by the more intellegent kids when you were still at school.

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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool players and their contracts
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:30 pm 
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Humphreys is probably still past it but his heart in the last few games makes him seem like a must have character if the other players are inspired by him (which not having the desire to hang around with them I wouldn't know).


So why haven't they been insired for the past two years? Two good games in a hundred is scattering form surely. As for his heart being in it, lets bring back Roy Hogan if thats the only qualification.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool players and their contracts
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Humphreys is probably still past it but his heart in the last few games makes him seem like a must have character if the other players are inspired by him (which not having the desire to hang around with them I wouldn't know).


So why haven't they been insired for the past two years? Two good games in a hundred is scattering form surely. As for his heart being in it, lets bring back Roy Hogan if thats the only qualification.


I did say if he inspires the others and if he can keep it up. The general tone of the post where I allegedly called Jones shite was more a comment on the fact that some people e.g. Humphreys seemed to play beyond the limits of their legs and ability at the weekend where others with considerably more ability have failed to shine on a regular basis. I agree 2 good games from 100 is not the kind of player I would want to keep but a player that cares is a rare thing.

Why was Adam Boyd an outstanding player under Cooper but rubbish under Turner? How can Rowell be so applauded by those from this board that have seen him play for the reserves but never gets a start for the 1st team? Why is Ritchie Jones one of the most talented players we have that can't hold down a 1st team place? How was Matty Robson not good enough but holds down a place in a side that have finished above us? Why don't we have a Left Back? Why does Humphreys get a place in the starting lineup regardless of form? Why don't we have 2 league 1 calibre goalkeepers? Why do our forwards all seem unable to score more than a handfull of goals? Why did nobbody realise liddle was due a suspension?

I can't answer any of those questions, only respond based on opinions.

I just find it odd that on a forum for HUFC fans I am attacked for offering an opinion that differs from that of one or two people, do I need to prove myself by waving a poolie bunker banner at away games for the next 12 years or post details of how many games I have attended over the past 30 years to be accepted or hold UEFA coaching badges before offering an opinion on how I think players have performed?

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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool players and their contracts
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:53 pm 
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Humphreys is probably still past it but his heart in the last few games makes him seem like a must have character if the other players are inspired by him (which not having the desire to hang around with them I wouldn't know).


So why haven't they been insired for the past two years? Two good games in a hundred is scattering form surely. As for his heart being in it, lets bring back Roy Hogan if thats the only qualification.


He's been very good in four of the last five games since he was restored to central midfield, he had some very good games earlier in the season in central midfield. He was hopeless on the left wing recently and struggled away from home at times when he was asked to play left back when the club didn't sign a full back for a decade, was that his fault? On the other hand he was good going forward at left back and I'm sure Andy Monkhouse wishes he still played left back. Positional wise he struggled as he did when he came up against pace, but he was bound to, he is not or never will be a left back.

If he'd have played central midfield over the years and nowhere else people wouldn't even be talking about him not being good enough or being past it. I don't give a fook what he said at a bar about Neale Cooper (who clearly wasn't doing his job properly) the bloke can play football. Is he worth a place in our squad?…… absolutely no doubt about it.


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alienlife wrote:
I just find it odd that on a forum for HUFC fans I am attacked for offering an opinion that differs from that of one or two people, do I need to prove myself by waving a poolie bunker banner at away games for the next 12 years or post details of how many games I have attended over the past 30 years to be accepted or hold UEFA coaching badges before offering an opinion on how I think players have performed?

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It might help. :wink:

To be honest I think that Mr I was being a bit tongue in cheek initially and his thoughts on Richie Humphreys are quite well know. :laugh:

As for disagreeing with Mr Fireball...






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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool players and their contracts
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:16 pm 
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... carry on. rolfl


I don't think I disagreed he just seems to have read something I didn't write.

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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool players and their contracts
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alienlife wrote:
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alienlife wrote:
Humphreys is probably still past it but his heart in the last few games makes him seem like a must have character if the other players are inspired by him (which not having the desire to hang around with them I wouldn't know).


So why haven't they been insired for the past two years? Two good games in a hundred is scattering form surely. As for his heart being in it, lets bring back Roy Hogan if thats the only qualification.


I did say if he inspires the others and if he can keep it up. The general tone of the post where I allegedly called Jones shite was more a comment on the fact that some people e.g. Humphreys seemed to play beyond the limits of their legs and ability at the weekend where others with considerably more ability have failed to shine on a regular basis. I agree 2 good games from 100 is not the kind of player I would want to keep but a player that cares is a rare thing.

Why was Adam Boyd an outstanding player under Cooper but rubbish under Turner? How can Rowell be so applauded by those from this board that have seen him play for the reserves but never gets a start for the 1st team? Why is Ritchie Jones one of the most talented players we have that can't hold down a 1st team place? How was Matty Robson not good enough but holds down a place in a side that have finished above us? Why don't we have a Left Back? Why does Humphreys get a place in the starting lineup regardless of form? Why don't we have 2 league 1 calibre goalkeepers? Why do our forwards all seem unable to score more than a handfull of goals? Why did nobbody realise liddle was due a suspension?

I can't answer any of those questions, only respond based on opinions.

I just find it odd that on a forum for HUFC fans I am attacked for offering an opinion that differs from that of one or two people, do I need to prove myself by waving a poolie bunker banner at away games for the next 12 years or post details of how many games I have attended over the past 30 years to be accepted or hold UEFA coaching badges before offering an opinion on how I think players have performed?

banghead



I agree with most of that, I find it incredulous that some players are selected regardless of form and others are never given a chance.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool players and their contracts
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He's been very good in four of the last five games since he was restored to central midfield, he had some very good games earlier in the season in central midfield. He was hopeless on the left wing recently and struggled away from home at times when he was asked to play left back when the club didn't sign a full back for a decade, was that his fault? On the other hand he was good going forward at left back and I'm sure Andy Monkhouse wishes he still played left back. Positional wise he struggled as he did when he came up against pace, but he was bound to, he is not or never will be a left back.

If he'd have played central midfield over the years and nowhere else people wouldn't even be talking about him not being good enough or being past it. I don't give a fook what he said at a bar about Neale Cooper (who clearly wasn't doing his job properly) the bloke can play football. Is he worth a place in our squad?…… absolutely no doubt about it.


Since bring restored? he's been there all season! Playing well in a few games against the dross of teh division when it's coming up to contract renewal time and playing crap for the rest of the year does not cut it for me.


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I just find it odd that on a forum for HUFC fans I am attacked for offering an opinion that differs from that of one or two people, do I need to prove myself by waving a poolie bunker banner at away games for the next 12 years or post details of how many games I have attended over the past 30 years to be accepted or hold UEFA coaching badges before offering an opinion on how I think players have performed?









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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool players and their contracts
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Since bring restored? he's been there all season! Playing well in a few games against the dross of teh division when it's coming up to contract renewal time and playing crap for the rest of the year does not cut it for me.


He hasn't, he has played on the left after he was dropped from central midfield and the team, and he had some good games earlier in the season. He has recently been restored to central midfield and we have won 4 out 5. The Swindon game before he was restored, were most agreed he was our best player in an utterly abject team performance he played on the left wing.

He's played at far higher standard than Sweeney all season and recently has been more consistent than Gamble. I think the contract renewal time reference would only be relevant if he was out of contract in the summer.


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chip fireball wrote:
the world i inhabit is not a delusion ( sic ), it exists.

i'm not very pathetic, i'm not little, though i am a man. so at least you got 1 from three. which is an improvement.

i didn't call you thick ( again ) i merely pointed out that you change your mind as often as the weather, so people may want to bear that in mind in future when you post something .

i wasnt bullied at school, and what i generally found is that it wasnt the intelligent kids who did the bullying at my school anyway, it was your lot . so i don't need counselling thanks.

on the subject of life advice though, if you think disabled kids are retards ( your word not mine ) do you think you are in the right job ? you might want to reflect on that this week. think to yourself " should i be doing this job, when i think disabled kids are there to be ridiculed. "

obviously dont think about it too much. your head might hurt.


I promise not to think as I really don't want to do myself any mischief. But I do believe my post was much more a dig at you than at disabled kids and if you know me so well you would surely know I am neither a thickett, heartless barsteward or one of those bullying types. But lets not let fact get in the way of one of the few defences of your opinon of me.

As for changing my opinion, the only opinions I changed are of a player I had not seen and of a player who seems to have found some kind of new lease of life. I had not called Jones shite the other day I made a comment on how he is inconsistent and taking one of two performances in isolation most of our players could be a class apart or donkey not fit to lace the boots of league 2 players.

I do agree that long term Jones could be one of the best players we have had at the club, but I think someone else will get the benefit of his services next season.

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 Post subject: Re: Hartlepool players and their contracts
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:39 pm 
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1) im a better footballer than sweeney on current form

2) and gamble


Mr.Chip....were/are you a better Footballer than Craig Farnaby???? sctatchinghead

Serious question....I think you two are about the same age!!!! :coool:


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to be fair i'd accept the uefa coaching badge. :wink:


I have a programme from a UEFA Champions League game at Anfield. Will that do?

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Does every fucking thread on this board have to turn into an argument between some guy and chip fireball?

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Yubep wrote:
Does every f*** thread on this board have to turn into an argument between some guy and chip fireball?

FFS!! refyellow


and if these arguments all involve chip does that not tell a story in itself

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Does every f*** thread on this board have to turn into an argument between some guy and chip fireball?

FFS!! refyellow

you know how they have the retreat for the clique can't they have one called the sin bin where whoever wants to argue can only post in there


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Yubep wrote:
Does every f*** thread on this board have to turn into an argument between some guy and chip fireball?

FFS!! refyellow


and if these arguments all involve chip does that not tell a story in itself

indeed, it means everybody else is wrong :laugh:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:32 pm 
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Does every f*** thread on this board have to turn into an argument between some guy and chip fireball?

FFS!! refyellow


In concurence!!!! confised

Still waiting for him to answer the quesion I posted like!!!! :laugh:

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Yubep wrote:
Does every f*** thread on this board have to turn into an argument between some guy and chip fireball?

FFS!! refyellow



well said fookin stop bitchin like little fookin girls


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MutleyRules wrote:
chip fireball wrote:
1) im a better footballer than sweeney on current form

2) and gamble


Mr.Chip....were/are you a better Footballer than Craig Farnaby???? sctatchinghead

Serious question....I think you two are about the same age!!!! :coool:


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:44 pm 
He did!!!! :grin:

I'm just interested to know if Mr.Chip was better than him!!!! :coool:


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He works for Stockton Council so i'l ask him tomorrow.
The thing is, if I say "is chip fireball a better footballer than you" what will he say sctatchinghead

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He works for Stockton Council so i'l ask him tomorrow.


Tell the Baldy Moosehead I said Hello!!!! :laugh: :grin:


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He works for Stockton Council so i'l ask him tomorrow.
The thing is, if I say "is chip fireball a better footballer than you" what will he say sctatchinghead


Chip has stated earlier he a better player than sweeney or gamble on current form

maybe you could ask farno if he reckons he is better than sweeney or gamble on current form

but farno probably doesnt go to pools so he wont have a fooking clue who your talking about anyway


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:04 pm 
Nice one Mr.Chip!!!! :coool:

So how good would you say was Paul Dobson???? sctatchinghead

I once set up a goal for him in a friendly....well after his professional days....my claim to fame!!!! :grin:


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chip fireball wrote:
klinger wrote:
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He works for Stockton Council so i'l ask him tomorrow.
The thing is, if I say "is chip fireball a better footballer than you" what will he say sctatchinghead


Chip has stated earlier he a better player than sweeney or gamble on current form

maybe you could ask farno if he reckons he is better than sweeney or gamble on current form

but farno probably doesnt go to pools so he wont have a fooking clue who your talking about anyway


do you ever think before typing ? rolfl


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Chip, maybe you should change your name to Tiger Messi. :wink:

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chip fireball wrote:
if it wasnt for my shoulder injury, im pretty confident i could play golf professionally.

im a better player than graeme storm.

he would tell you that himself.

That is absolutely correct. GS told me that himself.
His exact words were.................."derwent, you and chip are far better golfers than me".

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