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 Post subject: Re: Can I ask why I (Waldo Pepper) was banned?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:19 am 
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Was my post in here deleted or am I imagining it? Good work if so as was rather drunk


No idea mate, nowt to do with me, sorry.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:28 am 
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I think we need to step back and realise that the point made by Mr I is a turning point in the running of this board. No longer is it financed by the elite few, yes there's that word again, and that to me is progress.

Just a small point. The Bunker was never financed by "the elite few" (whatever that means). It was financed by Mr I alone. I agree that it is a good move to have more people invest in the Bunker and help foot the bill. Whether or not that can be classed as "progress" remains to be seen. It certainly needed to progress as for a good year and more the content of the Bunker has never been lower.

I have always had the impression that it was Mr I who was the sole financier but the other day someone said "we" when suggesting that offers of purchase could be made.
That prompted me to use the word few.
I realise that the word elite is contentious but it is one accusation that has been levelled consistently. I have asked numerous people why they don't post anymore and that comes out more than anything else.
It is not something that bothers me but it is a well worn perception. I suppose it depends how much credence is attached to the well known saying........." there's no smoke without fire "

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 Post subject: Re: Can I ask why I (Waldo Pepper) was banned?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:34 am 
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Talk about your face not fitting . . . :roll:

"It seems I have an unenviable knack of attracting contrary people".

Have you ever thought there could be a reason for this? Maybe they aren't contrary, maybe you bring it on yourself.

"Yes, 'banor' was clearly a made-up word, hence why I put it in apostrophes. I don't understand why you felt the need to point it out. I used it because I assumed a five letter word (even a made-up one) would be more flowing for the reader than 'the person who banned me'."

Don't object to made-up words just made-up words that aren't funny. I think the reader can cope with simple phrases.

"Regarding philosophers, if I had chosen an obscure one, who few, if any, had heard of, would that not make me 'more' of a cock? I choose an everyman philosopher and I'm a cock?!? confised"

Starting on about philosophers in the context of this thread was the act of a smartarse trying to impress people with his cleverness. Using the example you did suggested that you either knew a lot less than you implied or that you decided to use an obvious reference to help the dimwits you were trying to impress. Pretentious cock or condescending cock? You choose.

"Upon reading your post, I thought of a German philosopher from the 18th century, but my thoughts were not on his works, rather his surname."

If you mean Kant then that makes you a cockney and your banning is fully justified.

One last thing. I wouldn't usually comment on a poster's use of language but I'll make an exception. You wrote "hence why I...", the "why" is unnecessary, clumsy and undermines the brainy poster persona you try so hard to project.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:36 am 
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Well I think its all a load of shit.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:42 am 
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Well I think its all a load of shit.

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 Post subject: Re: Can I ask why I (Waldo Pepper) was banned?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:49 am 
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born toulouse wrote:
Talk about your face not fitting . . . :roll:

"It seems I have an unenviable knack of attracting contrary people".

Have you ever thought there could be a reason for this? Maybe they aren't contrary, maybe you bring it on yourself.

"Yes, 'banor' was clearly a made-up word, hence why I put it in apostrophes. I don't understand why you felt the need to point it out. I used it because I assumed a five letter word (even a made-up one) would be more flowing for the reader than 'the person who banned me'."

Don't object to made-up words just made-up words that aren't funny. I think the reader can cope with simple phrases.

"Regarding philosophers, if I had chosen an obscure one, who few, if any, had heard of, would that not make me 'more' of a cock? I choose an everyman philosopher and I'm a cock?!? confised"

Starting on about philosophers in the context of this thread was the act of a smartarse trying to impress people with his cleverness. Using the example you did suggested that you either knew a lot less than you implied or that you decided to use an obvious reference to help the dimwits you were trying to impress. Pretentious cock or condescending cock? You choose.

"Upon reading your post, I thought of a German philosopher from the 18th century, but my thoughts were not on his works, rather his surname."

If you mean Kant then that makes you a cockney and your banning is fully justified.

One last thing. I wouldn't usually comment on a poster's use of language but I'll make an exception. You wrote "hence why I...", the "why" is unnecessary, clumsy and undermines the brainy poster persona you try so hard to project.

Whilst we are in correcting mode Mr Toulouse................can I suggest that writing correct grammar is not the be all and end all when judging "brainy".
My mate is a brilliant mathematician who, by his own admission "can't write one coherent sentence after another". I consider him very "brainy".
You seem to get very jumpy about Waldo's "style". Why not arrange to meet at a match, have a pint together and sort it out. You never know, you might end up with a life long friend.
It has just been suggested to me that you are both probably teachers. :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Can I ask why I (Waldo Pepper) was banned?
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Totally agree with you about brains Mr Derwent. Loads of different ways of being clever and good grammar has no relevance to most of them. I never usually comment on anybody's English because I think it is plain rude to do that on a message board and my own is far from perfect. I made an exception in the case of the not actually banned person in question because I think he tries to use his "cleverness" to show off and make other posters look daft. I was trying to give him a dose of his own medicine.

Having said that he is probably alright in real life and I only called him a cock because I was moderately pissed and his style does irritate me. Felt obliged to keep it up today despite being sober.

On the teacher allegation rage Used to be a teacher but packed it in because you spend too much time with teachers and, in the end, you turn into one. reckon you might be right about Mr waldo though!


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 Post subject: Re: Can I ask why I (Waldo Pepper) was banned?
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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
Was my post in here deleted or am I imagining it? Good work if so as was rather drunk


Your post was deleted Mr/Mrs/Miss (delete as appropriate) Tree, I can't remember exactly what it said but I do know that it was basically slagging someone/group off that crossed the line a bit too far IMO HTH etc etc etc


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 Post subject: Re: Can I ask why I (Waldo Pepper) was banned?
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Aye, I wanted it deleting, few too many drinks lol

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 Post subject: Re: Can I ask why I (Waldo Pepper) was banned?
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born toulouse wrote:
Starting on about philosophers in the context of this thread was the act of a smartarse trying to impress people with his cleverness.
No, it wasn’t. It was me getting the comment in before some smartarse said it to me. How meaningless and smartarsed is ‘not needed’ for a reason to ban someone? No-one with propriety in their ethos would give that as a reason for banning someone, but, there again, no-one with a sense of propriety would have banned me in the first place. The only meaningful context in which I would say I was not needed was in a philosophical one. That’s why I said it - a pre-emptive strike against a possible smartarse attack.

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Using the example you did suggested that you either knew a lot less than you implied or that you decided to use an obvious reference to help the dimwits you were trying to impress. Pretentious cock or condescending cock? You choose.
The way you’re going on, it appears you think anyone even mentioning philosophy is a cock. You must be consumed with anger when thinking about the many people who, every weekend after a few beers, start talking about philosophical subjects. Or is philosophy only disagreeable when mentioned by those in a state of sobriety?

Just so you’re aware, I enjoy reading books on philosophy. They help me to understand and manage people (especially objectionable folk). There are three, possibly four, philosophers whose complete writings I have (I won’t name the philosophers – you may explode). I have not declared (nor would ever) that I am a guru on philosophy or philosophy writers. One thing is clear; you’re no philosopher. Philosophers are reasoned people who would embrace someone mentioning the subject, not accuse them of being pretentious or condescending.

I am reminded of when Warner Brothers (I think it was) in the US changed the title of the first Harry Potter fillum to ‘Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone’. Undertook some lobbying, did ya?

Oh, and “I did suggested”? More on that below.

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One last thing. I wouldn't usually comment on a poster's use of language but I'll make an exception. You wrote "hence why I...", the "why" is unnecessary, clumsy and undermines the brainy poster persona you try so hard to project.


This is ridiculous. Especially considering the irony that it’s come from someone who has failed to impress me with his grammar and punctuation (and general content of posts, to be honest). However, when I’ve noticed this in your posts, I didn’t mention it as I consider anyone who brings up a topic like that to be a ‘Cock’.

Clearly, you have an unreasonable problem with me that’s not going to go away for as long as I post. Fair enough, but that’s exactly what it is: your problem. It is also ironic (you and irony appear to be close friends) that you’re saying I think I’m ‘clever’ yet you’re the one who is clearly trying to be ‘clever’ by attempting to show me up in some way. Granted, you’re failing, but that is what you’re trying to do. Your contributions (that are not about me) have never registered as being thoughtful, humorous or enlightening so it doesn’t bother me whether you approve of me or not. There are many other contributors on here whose posts I do enjoy reading. If these folk thought ill of me or my posts, I'd be bothered.

For the avoidance of doubt, yes, on this occasion, I AM being condescending.


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 Post subject: Re: Can I ask why I (Waldo Pepper) was banned?
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Mr Ripper wrote:
In the case of Mr Pepper it was deemed that he was engaging in general rarfery and acting in a deliberately contrary manner and upsetting folk (hence the reason being given as "not needed") so the concensus was that a ban was required.


I couldn’t disagree more with the above. Feel free to review my posts and highlight the actions you deem to be general rarfery or me being ‘deliberately’ contrary.


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 Post subject: Re: Can I ask why I (Waldo Pepper) was banned?
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Have we all said our bit now, this is turning into one of those tedious threads.


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 Post subject: Re: Can I ask why I (Waldo Pepper) was banned?
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So is he banned or not ?
& if not why not ?

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Mr I wrote:
Have we all said our bit now, this is turning into one of those tedious threads.


Whilst I agree that it's gone on far longer than it should have (a straight respone to my question right at the start would have helped there), I hope this doesn't mean the thread will be locked.

If people are finding a thread tedious, they don't have to read it.

There are lots of threads I have had no interest in (that behemoth word game one for a start), but I wouldn't ask for them to be locked.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:40 pm 
Waldo, please. You're back now. What is it you wanted to say? :wink:


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Waldo, please. You're back now. What is it you wanted to say? :wink:


I love you (in a non-love way, of course).


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[x] Overuse of the word "cock" in this thread.


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In the case of Mr Pepper it was deemed that he was engaging in general rarfery and acting in a deliberately contrary manner and upsetting folk (hence the reason being given as "not needed") so the concensus was that a ban was required.


I couldn’t disagree more with the above. Feel free to review my posts and highlight the actions you deem to be general rarfery or me being ‘deliberately’ contrary.


You give the impression that you consider yourself important enough to warrant me or anybody else to spend their time trawling back through pages of the board in order to prove something to you. The breaking news is that you're not, so philosophise over that.



Here's an example to hand however;
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How meaningless and smartarsed is ‘not needed’ for a reason to ban someone? No-one with propriety in their ethos would give that as a reason for banning someone, but, there again, no-one with a sense of propriety would have banned me in the first place. The only meaningful context in which I would say I was not needed was in a philosophical one. That’s why I said it - a pre-emptive strike against a possible smartarse attack.

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 Post subject: Re: Can I ask why I (Waldo Pepper) was banned?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:31 pm 
I actually did lose the will to live reading this thread!
thank God this page ended when it did.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:39 pm 
Mr Salty, I agree, Some of us have been around since the beginning, some of us over-rate our own importance, some of us come here for a bit of fun and news. Some come to ask their mates how they are, how the kids are etc.

Some come on here to tell us how to live our lives, what to think, what you are allowed to post, when you should post it, what your mental state is, whether you resemble a female genital, some to split the infinitive and examine every hair on the head.

Most people take message boards too seriously. I always thought the Bunker would evade that because it's supposed to be like minded people. Sadly it suffers critically from the English disease of 'Me first, I am entitled, deliver.'

If you are entitled, fair enough. Me, I'm rapidly losing interest.

Make everyone a moderator, and let the lunatics take over the asylum. There's nowt much on here apart from petty arguments anymore. That explains the absence of the more esteemed posters.


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Mr Ripper wrote:
You give the impression that you consider yourself important enough to warrant me or anybody else to spend their time trawling back through pages of the board in order to prove something to you. The breaking news is that you're not, so philosophise over that.


That's utter rubbish. I don't think I'm any more important than the next person. I challenged you to find something that showed me being a rarf or being deliberately contrary knowing that there's nothing there.

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Here's an example to hand however;
WhyWasIBanned? wrote:
How meaningless and smartarsed is ‘not needed’ for a reason to ban someone? No-one with propriety in their ethos would give that as a reason for banning someone, but, there again, no-one with a sense of propriety would have banned me in the first place. The only meaningful context in which I would say I was not needed was in a philosophical one. That’s why I said it - a pre-emptive strike against a possible smartarse attack.


Nope, I don't see anything of a rarfery or a deliberately contrary nature in that. I see me responding to a comment by someone wrongfully calling me a condescending or pretentious cock after I had been banned for no good reason.

You, and Born_Toulouse see something that's just not there. Is your desire for me to use text speak, talk about 'yoof' culture and end every sentence with 'like' or 'innit'?

Sorry, but I try to be conscientious and construct my posts in a manner which make it easy for the reader to understand. You're going on like I'm Blackadder speaking to Dr Johnson in the Dictionary episode.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:55 pm 
Yep....but can I just say....























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Make everyone a moderator, and let the lunatics take over the asylum. There's nowt much on here apart from petty arguments anymore. That explains the absence of the more esteemed posters.


"More esteemed posters" sctatchinghead , I presume you mean the original 'clique' who throw their dummies out of the pram when someone dares express an alternative opinion, and to be honest are the ones who typically resort to 'rarfery' once an argument starts.

Pretty much everyone on here has been guilty of petty arguments lately. The mood on the bunker is directly linked to the current state of Pools. The more shiite pools are doing the more shiite the atmosphere on here is.

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A la chipster

[ ] Mods please lock / delete this thread...... yawn2

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FFS, can we all put our rattles away, this thread is becoming very silly..


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