benefit cheats - off topic

katcha · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:26 pm

dont you just hate them

here you are going to work grafting away and you have people ducking and diving left right and centre. fiddling, working thingy tax, council tax and so on.

it gets my goat it does.

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:49 pm

The ones I hate even more are the ones that won't work full stop and just rake in the benefits....legally!!!! banghead

katcha · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:50 pm

Peter O springs to mind :shock:

Compo · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:52 pm

katcha wrote:

dont you just hate them

here you are going to work grafting away and you have people ducking and diving left right and centre. fiddling, working thingy tax, council tax and so on.

it gets my goat it does.

This really annoys me, my dad had an accident about 11 years ago at work and still cant work a full time job, he builds raidiator covers etc for family and a bit of money on the side (being a joiner it pisses him off it takes him about 4 times longer to do things than he used to).

Now he has all benefits DLA etc for life as his condition will only get worse, but for him to get that he had to jump through hoops for years all because of people "faking" injury who are to lazy to work. My dad would give anything to go back to work.

katcha · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:18 pm

true, the system they have set up to give genuine points to genuine people is ridiculous.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

You get diddly when your working, im tempted to get a lower paid job as we'd actually save money on nursery fees, at the moment with what i earn it will cost us a shed load.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:54 pm

Yubep wrote:

You get diddly when your working, im tempted to get a lower paid job as we'd actually save money on nursery fees, at the moment with what i earn it will cost us a shed load.

You can claim nearly half of the nursery cost back in tax if you get childcare vouchers deducted from your salary at source. I think that the £30 a day we pay Aldersyde works out at about £18 that way. :wink:

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Mr Ripper wrote:

Yubep wrote:

You get diddly when your working, im tempted to get a lower paid job as we'd actually save money on nursery fees, at the moment with what i earn it will cost us a shed load.

You can claim nearly half of the nursery cost back in tax if you get childcare vouchers deducted from your salary at source. I think that the £30 a day we pay Aldersyde works out at about £18 that way. :wink:

I'll look into that, our younguns off to aldersyde in 2 months

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:15 am

Yeh, this one's for the workers who toil night and day
By hand and by brain to earn your pay
Who for centuries long past for no more than your bread
Have bled for your countries and counted your dead

In the factories and mills, in the shipyards and mines
We've often been told to keep up with the times
For our skills are not needed, they've streamlined the job
And with sliderule and stopwatch our pride they have robbed

[Chorus:]
We're the first ones to starve, We're the first ones to die
The first ones in line for that pie-in-the-sky
And we're always the last when the cream is shared out
For the worker is working when the fat cat's about

And when the sky darkens and the prospect is war
Who's given a gun and then pushed to the fore
And expected to die for the land of our birth
Though we've never owned one lousy handful of earth?

[Chorus x3]

All of these things the worker has done
From tilling the fields to carrying the gun
We've been yoked to the plough since time first began
And always expected to carry the can

:coool:

Jonny · **Posted:** Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:47 am

nick · **Posted:** Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:13 am

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:49 pm

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:52 pm

Cornelius Atweasle · **Posted:** Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:39 pm

ElvisAintDead wrote:

Don't get me started on this. Somebody working for Hartlepool Bourough Council's Social Services once suggested that me and my Mrs (the one I've been married to for 24 years!) split up!! Apparently that way they would have to "provide" for our Livvy. As it was, we didn't get a penny towards ramps/hoists/alterations to our unsuitable house because we were both working. :evil:

Hi EAD, I've heard that "split up" story before, and it's shocking.

Spender · **Posted:** Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:02 pm

I couldn't possibly comment having assessed the country, the tax I paid and the assistance I got, bringing a daughter up on my own. You know that CBA?? Complete bag of fu cking wankers unless you've got a fanny. :roll:

However I now live somewhere else. clappp

Loid Haw-Haw of Sussex · **Posted:** Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:27 pm

Benefits must be great .I pass Weatherspoons most days.. to and from work i may add :grin:

..And guess what ? all the same faces outside having a tab in between half a dozen beers everyday of the week .. confised

Compo · **Posted:** Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:31 pm

Sussex07 wrote:

Benefits must be great .I pass Weatherspoons most days.. to and from work i may add :grin:

..And guess what ? all the same faces outside having a tab in between half a dozen beers everyday of the week .. confised

I work in a pub mon-wed night as a second job and the same people are in there as well, I know for a fact at least two maybe three dont work yet they are still in there spending about £15-20 a night on beer.

nick · **Posted:** Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:32 pm

Sussex07 wrote:

Benefits must be great .I pass Weatherspoons most days.. to and from work i may add :grin:

..And guess what ? all the same faces outside having a tab in between half a dozen beers everyday of the week .. confised

how do you know they're not successful entrepreneurs?

Loid Haw-Haw of Sussex · **Posted:** Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:36 pm

nick wrote:

Sussex07 wrote:

Benefits must be great .I pass Weatherspoons most days.. to and from work i may add :grin:

..And guess what ? all the same faces outside having a tab in between half a dozen beers everyday of the week .. confised

how do you know they're not successful entrepreneurs?

Well there is a few who sell cheap baccy... :laugh:

Cornelius Atweasle · **Posted:** Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:07 pm

ElvisAintDead wrote:

Shocking but totally true. It was when she was first diagnosed, and we were told she wouldn't be walking after her surgery. We used to live in a 3-storey Victorian house, no good for somebody in a wheelchair, so we moved to a bungalow which we couldn't afford in the first place. However, it still needed quite a bit of work doing to it before it would be suitable for Livvy's needs.

The Social Services guy came out as we were told there might be grants available to do ramps, widen doors etc.

"Question One..what's your total income?"

There was no Question Two, just a load of reasons why we were "Over the threshold" of earnings (mind, it was JUST in those days, 1995) and the best thing we could do was split up. Then the partner staying in the house would have been entitled to the grants.

I borrowed 2 grand from the Outlaws to do the work.

Decent, hard-working families get nothing off the state, despite all your taxes and NI contributions.

I grew up on Dyke House, just round the corner from Milbank Road. The families who lived in the centre of the street were the professional benefits scroungers ... the Herberts, Rowbothams ... I'm sure some on here could add more names. From generation to generation they've passed on the art of scrounging. Never contributed a penny to the welfare state.

parmopooly · **Posted:** Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:15 am

Spender wrote:

I couldn't possibly comment having assessed the country, the tax I paid and the assistance I got, bringing a daughter up on my own. You know that CBA?? Complete bag of fu cking wankers unless you've got a fanny. :roll:

However I now live somewhere else. clappp

aye there are many professional "sperm collectors," who have a variety of donors that manufactured their little bundles of benefits packages (erm I mean joy)

grabec · **Posted:** Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:14 am

I agree, but what about the many people who don't even have to cheat to get benefits......Prince Philip, etc. etc. etc.?? Surely upper class scrounging accounts for far more wealth-siphoning than dole cheats will ever achieve.

Add to that politicians' expense accounts, bankers' bonuses etc etc. Sure they'll all be very pleased you're concentrating on the working classes

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:44 am

grabec wrote:

Sure they'll all be very pleased you're concentrating on the working classes

'Working Classes'????

They wouldn't know work if it bit them on the arse!!!! confised

grabec · **Posted:** Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:47 am

MutleyRules wrote:

grabec wrote:

Sure they'll all be very pleased you're concentrating on the working classes

'Working Classes'????

They wouldn't know work if it bit them on the arse!!!! confised

True, but they would be working class if they worked. Whereas bankers and dukes wouldn't be.

parmopooly · **Posted:** Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:11 pm

can't we just call them the shirking class, then we will be able to differentiate from now on in future debates

parmopooly · **Posted:** Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:13 pm

so what do we call the nobility and bankers then? We need a catch-all description for those types

grabec · **Posted:** Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:21 pm

Nobs and wnakers?

parmopooly · **Posted:** Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:12 pm

both words apply to both categories

So that's that settled then

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