http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... itain.html

Yes its from 2008 not now!! I definitely agree 100% with his thoughts if they don't share our ideals and values theyshould be told to welcome to the board.Also anyone calling for an islamic state in the UK should be told to welcome to the board to one (as there is plenty of them around). With all this shit happening its hardly surprising that Nationalism is on the rise...

I wouldnt piss on him if he was on fire, I can never understand how people in the church can actively shout their mouth off regarding these matters or on poverty / sexuality. They are part of the lies that are told to the world that have caused all this mess.

Also with poverty until I see all the people in vatican and church of England living in normal houses etc not having gold goblets and priceless pictures about the place and donating their wealth to the poorest countries will I ever listen to them about helping their fellow man.

Edited: as advised by grave lol

[x] typo?

Have you actually read what is being said? Its nothing to do with religion.The crux of the argument is that you shouldn't let immigrants in unless they share our values. I bet you'd say that idiot has the right to march down Wootton Basset High Street as well

Call me a racist call me an Islama-phobe but I don't see any other religion professing the killing of non believers as a key objective.

If you've never noticed we are a Christian Country and have been for at least a 1000 years (oh and we where never an Islamic one!)

I believe everyman has his right to believe what he wants but when they try to force it down others throats it makes me sick...

[x] I would willingly kick fook out of every muslim who dared to walk in protest down Wootton Basset High Street

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen ... 973408.ece


And suppose this is racist too

Agreed ADG most muslims DON'T agree with that idiot. MOST muslims are peace-loving normal people BUT there are a large minority (not necessarily in this country) that are not...

The minority that will hijack planes and fly them into buildings.
The minority that kill women and children and not think twice about it...
The minority who would want to take away your right (or maybe your grandchildrens right) NOT to believe in some mumbo jumbo about god if they so chose.

The scary thing is that some of this minority is now living over here. They are far more active and vocal than the peaceful majority... How long will it be before they become the majority...

Not wanting to pish on your chips but most of the polish migrants have pished off home due to the weakness of sterling...

What we should do to reduce the growing population in this country is defo be tougher on imigration but also forcefully migrate to Australia or Antartica any one who openly supports Man fooking United who is not from Trafford, Salford or anyother traditional Red Devil supporting area. Anyone wearing a top withoout proof of provinence gets put on a very slow boat.

I'll go further and include anyone from Hartlepool seen wearing or openly supporting the barcodes ( like my brother the tit ), mackems ( like my brother in law ) or the boro ( sorry don't know anyone ).

That will get the attendences up at the Vic Mr Green if your interested, and you'll hear people saying "which one is Joe Allon?" to the bloke next to them.

There i've said it i feel better now

The minority of Christians are in the KKK as well

Kays Katalogue Klub?

[x] most of extremists causing chew here where born here but a weird branch of their religion has turned them into nutters...

[x] If they want to live in an islamic state they can welcome to the board to one

Sorry ADG I like to bet a weeks wages that they where not regular attenders at ANY church... and as for praying they praying is that they'd not get caught

As for these other horrible bastads, I'd bet a weeks wages I could find them in a mosque on a Friday and praying to allah five times a day..

Didn't know you went around robbing houses..have you some scouse ancestors or something...

so let me get this right the white people who robbed his house probably dont attend church but the radicals and terrorist attend mosques, therefore you implying that if these white people went to church they wouldnt have robbed his house.

Are you mad in thinking Islam is anyway different from Christianity they are both cut from the same cloth have basically the same values just told by different prophet.

Islam in its true form is a peaceful religion.

BUT islam (or someones interpretation of it ) allows / encourages people to murder others.. or am I wrong in that statement?

I know we went through the same thing but that was 800 years ago!



I would hazard a guess if they where practising Christians they wouldn't go around robbing people.

So practising christians dont go out robbing but practising musliums go around bombing

your first point shows that you believe true musliums wouldnt and dont go around robbing killing others as its against their religion (same as christianity). Therefore by your own admission these idiots arnt true musliums and should be classified as what they are nutters, NOT MUSLIUM nutters just simply nutters.

Also your point about

"BUT islam (or someones interpretation of it ) allows / encourages people to murder others.. or am I wrong in that statement?

I know we went through the same thing but that was 800 years ago! "

so again by your own admission Christianity has done the same causing interpretation of the gospel to cause violence just because it was 800years ago the facts are the same, fundementalists will change the word of god into something to meet their own ends.

your contridicting yourself with every comment

You're talkinghypotheticals here ADG but theres one thing that is a FACT the nutters killing people WILL be practising Muslims.. The scum breaking into your house whilst being white will definitely not be PRACTISING Christians

can you answer my point then?

So let me get this straight; someone who burgles a house is the same as a mad mullah who wants to blow up planes and cut peoples heads off?

Honestly, some of the political correctness with some of you lot make me fuck ing heave. Despite what you apologists say, there is a serious threat to the lives of people in this country from Muslim extremists. You can minimilise it as much as you like but in places like Leeds, Birmingham, Luton and Leicester its a definite growing phenomemem.

Of course I expect the guardian readers to jump up and down and scream racist but it does not change the fact that these people need dealing with ruthlessly.

Not saying its racist at all, can I ask you a question how many deaths or crime in this country have been committed by muslium extremists I from memory can name 1, the london bombings.

How many have been committed by black youths ie gun or knife crime, a hell of a lot more, why isnt the media and everyone concentrating on this more urgent problem.

Light blue touch paper and step back....

And all these nutters need to do is down one 747 over a town and they'll kill more. The real truth of this problem is we can't afford to let them succeed

why havent you answered my points about islam and christianity

So practising christians dont go out robbing but practising musliums go around bombing

your first point shows that you believe true musliums wouldnt and dont go around robbing killing others as its against their religion (same as christianity). Therefore by your own admission these idiots arnt true musliums and should be classified as what they are nutters, NOT MUSLIUM nutters just simply nutters.

Also your point about

"BUT islam (or someones interpretation of it ) allows / encourages people to murder others.. or am I wrong in that statement?

I know we went through the same thing but that was 800 years ago! "

so again by your own admission Christianity has done the same causing interpretation of the gospel to cause violence just because it was 800years ago the facts are the same, fundementalists will change the word of god into something to meet their own ends.

your contridicting yourself with every comment

Oh FFS!

Chip, you're now lecturing me about a city I spend more than half my time in? Yes there is good relations between whites / Sihks & Hindus but don't include the muslims in that, all of the above groups mistrust them. Muslim extremism in this country is growing at an alarming rate.

As for why there haven't been as many atocities; well thats mainly down to MI5/SIS/SRR/SB and not because of a benevolence from the Islamists.

Let me help you; you're just a little bit too thick to understand. Don't let it get you down its just the way it is.

Correct?

I have I've agreed that in essence they're both peaceful religions that give a good basis on which to live your life. The main difference between the two religions is that one has evolved and its core beliefs are in the 21st century the other hasn't..

chip in don't talk the advocating killing of homosexuals etc in America.

They're already doing it in islamic states.. http://iraqilgbtuk.blogspot.com/2007/02 ... re-of.html nice people these and surprisingly I don't see a Christian among them...

Hang on there fatty, I've never accused you of reading the Daily Mail, you are much more of a Dandy man, in every sense of the word

Lockerbie?? Several score 'honour killings??' The heroin trade? The WPC outside the Lebanese Embassy?? The WPC in Bradford?? The Iranian Embassy siege?? The very recent airline bomb plot kids?? Abu Hooky from the Finsbury mosque??

To be honest though, the white kids are a nuisance on a street level, while the other fellers are a problem on an ideological level. It's not really the same argument or approach.

However, I would agree that they should all be rounded up, put in a field and be nuked.

But I'm not there and simply don't care.

can't blame yer for that either!!! One thing is for certain, no ideological terrorism campaign will be waged on China without serious recriminations!!! They are good at quashing rebellious groups, even righteous ones.

my grandparents were ment to be on the Lockerbie flight going to stay with my uncle for about 5 months in New York, fortunatly my uncle (who is a jockey) got injured and couldnt ride for about 4 weeks prior to them going so told them to get an earlier flight. Nobody told my nana until she got back to the UK and she never went on a flight again.

Chip,

Re carpet bombings.....
Twin Towers, September 11 2001
Afghanistan war started, October 7 2001
Iraq war started, May 1 2003

You can hardly blame the west for starting it.

That's cheating.

You're not meant to bring facts into an argument with Mr Fireball, it's meant to be all about who types the most and the longest posts wins.

You're funny. You must be, I can't help laughing at you today.

Lockerbie was more about Gaddafi getting pissed off with the Americans downing his planes than Islamic extremism.

The Lockerbie bombing was not carried out by Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi, you don't need a Newsnight investigaton to sort that out. He was a willing patsy to pave the way for Britain and the US to renew diplomatic relations with Lybia. I was at Camp Zeist for the trial of Lamin Khalifah Fhimah and Al Megrahi, Fhimah was found "not guilty" and Al Megrahi paid the price.

And as someone here accused ADG of being Scouse, it reminded me of this ....

The Press swarmed on Lockebie in the aftermath of the crash. The police couldn't contain the whole area because the wreckage was strewn for miles. Reporters from The Sun picked up pieces of fuselage and cockpit instruments (potential vital evidence) and personal belongings for the then Editor in Glasgow to make a sort of 3D mural in his office. He and they were charged with theft.

Quite ironic how The Sun went on to claim how Liverpool fans "robbed the dead".

Somebody said to me that Islam is the biggest threat to world peace.
I am trying to present a counter argument to this........................can somebody please help me????

Was it the Pope?

I'll come back to you on that one. Ermmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...................

You cheeky get....when I said that you replied I was away with the fairies.

Anyway I'm off for a pint, you get more sense in the bar of an ale house

Nah..............It was the guy next door....................but he is a cardinal !!!!!!!!!!!

Ah but............are you surprised?????
That's what happens when your brain is firmly esconced in your scrotum.

However I'm sure Mr chip will have an answer...................he always does..........bless him.

C'mon like, we've all been prone to that and to a very large extent I seem to remember.................not sure I'm entirely immune now.

And people who sell the weapons.

I added that before presenting "our" answer.

Our somebody isn't convinced.............I don't think he likes muslims.
He must like niggers though............cos he is one.
Although you never know.
Well we don't like all whites do we???

Never mind....I'm glad to know that Islam is not the biggest threat to world peace.............our somebody had me worried for a while.
Thanks Chip.......................ever thought of taking up the cloth or joining the Samaritans. I have heard that being part of these organisations has potential side benefits. Consoling and reassuring................you're good at that.

No nuns there then????

To bring this to a conclusion might I just say that I don't trust the raghead bastards.

Even at such a young age you where the object of sexual attention

You should write a film called errrr errrr The Confessions of a call centre worker

"Love thy neighbour!"