Your MP's football shirt. Which is most appropriate?

poolpower · **Posted:** Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:34 am

not if it is killing people it isn't

Cowboy · **Posted:** Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:37 am

poolpower wrote:

not if it is killing people it isn't

Making people travel an extra 10 miles for treatment will kill a hell of a lot more

poolpower · **Posted:** Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:41 am

try telling that to someone living in the fens
but you did not answer my question

Cowboy · **Posted:** Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:44 am

poolpower wrote:

try telling that to someone living in the fens
but you did not answer my question

What question?

3Quid · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:11 pm **Posts:** 1791

MY REAL STORY IS...

On more than one occasion my daughters life has been saved THANKS to having a hospital in Hartlepool.

Peoples lives are at risk if there isn't a hospital....end of story.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22568

3Quid wrote:

MY REAL STORY IS...

On more than one occasion my daughters life has been saved THANKS to having a hospital in Hartlepool.

Peoples lives are at risk if there isn't a hospital....end of story.

Amen!

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22568

I have always thought that. I know he had his odd ways (I'm not talking about his boyfriend either) but he had a lot of contacts that he used to good effect. You think its a coincidence that all that european money started to flow into the town?

aptid · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:49 pm **Posts:** 1505

I have been thinking about this closure thing and it seems to me that the "agenda" may be a little different from than is being declared.

The declared plan as I understand it is to a) Transfer services to North Tees (from Hartlepool & Stockton) which has been on the NHS wish list for ages, b) Shut Hartlepool & Stockton, c) Build the new hospital.

The principal objective seems to be to shut Hartlepool and Stockton hospitals, so once a & b are achieved where is the reasoning to build c??

To promise to build c is no greater a promise than that given before to keep Hartlepool hospital open. It wouldn't take much of a change in a government view to blow "Wynyard hospital" off the agenda all together.

Either way Hartlepool loses, fight the closure.

nick · **Posted:** Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:12 pm

Frank_Reid wrote:

however in the end it is the people who are intitled to vote for such things in Hartlepool that will have the say

I'll believe that when I see it.

Democracy? wot democracy?

poolpower · **Posted:** Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:16 pm

WOW! suddenly i am not the only one that thought Mandelson was a good MP
just a bit late now though

who if anyone is going to come in win the election and change the mind of Government

poolpower · **Posted:** Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:22 pm

i did not say he was

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22568

Mandleson was a good constituency MP and his high profile benefitted Hartlepool because he knew how to fight for what was available and fight dirty. His name helped enormously. Now we have a lily-livered new labour Blairite soon to be a Brownite or any other ite. He has done sod all for Hartlepool during his time in the job and now he is pandering to the party bosses whilst at the same time trying to make it look like he's doing something; petitions don't work and his statement of "I hope to get a parlimentary debate" is so cowardly it's laughable.

ChunkyMonkey · **Joined:** Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:59 pm **Posts:** 569

offshorepoolie wrote:

Have to agree with this one with Mandelson we had a Political Shark. This fellow we've got now well he's nothing but very small fish in a big pond!!

How much of TDC development would've passed to the Boro and Stockton if never had Mr Mandelson here at the time!!

The Labour party moved in to protect Dari Taylor and Frank Cook's seats and Frank Cook is standing down at the end of this term! That is how much his party think of him. Had he not stood down from his position as private secretary to Patricia Hewitt suppossedly in protest of the hospital situation (when actually it was jumping from the Blair camp to the Brown camp), things could well be very different now!

poolpower · **Posted:** Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:44 pm

Mr I wrote:

Mandleson was a good constituency MP and his high profile benefitted Hartlepool because he knew how to fight for what was available and fight dirty. His name helped enormously. Now we have a lily-livered new labour Blairite soon to be a Brownite or any other ite. He has done sod all for Hartlepool during his time in the job and now he is pandering to the party bosses whilst at the same time trying to make it look like he's doing something; petitions don't work and his statement of "I hope to get a parlimentary debate" is so cowardly it's laughable.

who was the man that got Blair elected?
he was a good constituency MP and also got the pick of the easy seats as reward and we all benefited from it even the tories in the town

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36398

In tonights Mail, we've been advised by our glorious MP that he his eager to avoid knee jerk reactions ...then backed up by some Councillor called Wallace... with a classic quote ..... " If a fight is doomed to fail then let's move on past the fighting stage and make sure we do the best we can for the people of Hartlepool" ..... :roll:

Which I translate as ....'we've lost, so let's roll over and see what scraps are thrown to us' .....

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:58 pm

poolpower wrote:

Mr I wrote:

Mandleson was a good constituency MP and his high profile benefitted Hartlepool because he knew how to fight for what was available and fight dirty. His name helped enormously. Now we have a lily-livered new labour Blairite soon to be a Brownite or any other ite. He has done sod all for Hartlepool during his time in the job and now he is pandering to the party bosses whilst at the same time trying to make it look like he's doing something; petitions don't work and his statement of "I hope to get a parlimentary debate" is so cowardly it's laughable.

who was the man that got Blair elected?
he was a good constituency MP and also got the pick of the easy seats as reward and we all benefited from it even the tories in the town

And Poolpower wins todays award for stating the bleeding obvious! :grin:

poolpower · **Posted:** Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:04 pm

just putting the tory wing of the bunker right

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36398

...or should that be 'Wright'...? :roll:

dawlishmonkey · **Joined:** Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:53 am **Posts:** 1588

ok I like a lot of you live too far away for it to matter to me personally but I have family that this involves and would like to know more. the debate thus far on the board is very short on facts and high on emotion. is there anywhere aside from the mail that I can read the facts?

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36398

Actually the breakdown on the Mail website is quite good ...I was surprised too.

Spender · **Posted:** Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:50 am

Snowy wrote:

In tonights Mail, we've been advised by our glorious MP that he his eager to avoid knee jerk reactions ...then backed up by some Councillor called Wallace... with a classic quote ..... " If a fight is doomed to fail then let's move on past the fighting stage and make sure we do the best we can for the people of Hartlepool" ..... :roll:

Which I translate as ....'we've lost, so let's roll over and see what scraps are thrown to us' .....

So vote them out. In Worksop, a lefty council prevailed for donkeys years and if Hartlepools a safe seat, Worksop makes it look shaky. Along comes a Blairite, John Mann, and starts his New Labour bollocks, along comes the council elections and results showed a big big swing to the right. In their well known arrogance they took no notice, along comes the council elections, 'oh bugger we've lost!!!' Four independants, ex-Labour independants to be exact, sickened by New Labour rubbish, socialists to a man, joined the Tories to give a chamber majority. Labour then reduced to bleatings in the local weekly paper. MP has his teeth withdrawn because he doesn't have the council mouthpiece and is ultimately aware that safe is no longer safe.

They are also trying to re-allocate the Bassetlaw District General Hospital Services from Worksop to Doncaster, a journey of some 13 miles by road, an hour by bus and two trains. The MP of course is valiantly fighting the battle to keep the services in town isn't he?? He is a PPS, looks to want something in Heritage and to be involved in the Olympics. Smell familiar??

I have to point out that Bassetlaw District General also has a stinky reputation, but doesn't the Health Service as a whole?? It's bloody marvellous from a reactionary point of view, if you have a heart attack, stroke, RTA etc etc or if you're having a baby, but if you want a hip replacement, a scan, oncology treatment, etc etc it's crap.

Look at the latest revelation?? Government gives the GP surgeries big money, eighteen months later, it is revealed that GPs make BIG money?? No shit?? Red faced Health Secretary reveals that they expected GPs to invest more in their services. Oh you did, did you?? Did you expect Christmas on 18th December as well?? bounders......

VOTE THEM OUT, then vote the next lot out, don't give them time for complacency and then if they get voted in again they know they have to perform or get voted out. Ten years is too long.

poolpower · **Posted:** Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:34 pm

how long did they give maggie and her cronies
oh what joy when they took the keys off her and it was her own crowd that did it

so not all tories are bad only the ones on this board rage

Spender · **Posted:** Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:59 am

About the same length of time and who's crowd is trying to take the keys off Tony now??

Not that Tony has anything remotely to do with labour OR it's ideals, he's just a Tory in red clothing and if you don't know that, your Alzheimers is more advanced than I thought!!

Here's one maybe a little close to your heart.

MRSA, spend in hospitals on prevention?? 2million quid, the cost of alcohol hand gel in the corridors.

Spend on fine revenue capturing speed cameras?? 26 million quid.

Deaths in hospitals from MRSA?? 5500. Death on roads attributed to speeding?? 3300.

New Labour?? New Con Every Week. :roll:

poolpower · **Posted:** Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:09 am

you should be a politician

should i send you a red card ?

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:44 am

poolpower wrote:

you should be a politician

should i send you a red card ?

Even as a Labour voter, you must be able to see through some of the shite Blair has dropped upon this country, without blaming the Tories?

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36398

Pooliekev wrote:

Snowy wrote:

In tonights Mail, we've been advised by our glorious MP that he his eager to avoid knee jerk reactions ...then backed up by some Councillor called Wallace... with a classic quote ..... " If a fight is doomed to fail then let's move on past the fighting stage and make sure we do the best we can for the people of Hartlepool" ..... :roll:

Which I translate as ....'we've lost, so let's roll over and see what scraps are thrown to us' .....

So vote them out. In Worksop, a lefty council prevailed for donkeys years and if Hartlepools a safe seat, Worksop makes it look shaky. Along comes a Blairite, John Mann, and starts his New Labour bollocks, along comes the council elections and results showed a big big swing to the right. In their well known arrogance they took no notice, along comes the council elections, 'oh bugger-de-bugger-de-do we've lost!!!' Four independants, ex-Labour independants to be exact, sickened by New Labour rubbish, socialists to a man, joined the Tories to give a chamber majority. Labour then reduced to bleatings in the local weekly paper. MP has his teeth withdrawn because he doesn't have the council mouthpiece and is ultimately aware that safe is no longer safe.

They are also trying to re-allocate the Bassetlaw District General Hospital Services from Worksop to Doncaster, a journey of some 13 miles by road, an hour by bus and two trains. The MP of course is valiantly fighting the battle to keep the services in town isn't he?? He is a PPS, looks to want something in Heritage and to be involved in the Olympics. Smell familiar??

I have to point out that Bassetlaw District General also has a stinky reputation, but doesn't the Health Service as a whole?? It's bloody marvellous from a reactionary point of view, if you have a heart attack, stroke, RTA etc etc or if you're having a baby, but if you want a hip replacement, a scan, oncology treatment, etc etc it's crap.

Look at the latest revelation?? Government gives the GP surgeries big money, eighteen months later, it is revealed that GPs make BIG money?? No shiit?? Red faced Health Secretary reveals that they expected GPs to invest more in their services. Oh you did, did you?? Did you expect Christmas on 18th December as well?? bounders......

VOTE THEM OUT, then vote the next lot out, don't give them time for complacency and then if they get voted in again they know they have to perform or get voted out. Ten years is too long.

Personally Kev, voting them out is just the start for me ... this has re-ignited my waning interest in politics .... The latest hissy fit to have been given the kiss of life is that the the whole hospital protest thing is just an excuse to have a dig a Labour .... :roll:

I happen to think they don't need anyone to have a dig ...they're doing OK by themselves.

poolpower · **Posted:** Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:56 pm

Mr ADG wrote:

I never thought I would say this............but PP is a Labour member of the worst kind.

I never thought anyone would defend the Party over their own Hospital......it just shows what is important to some people.

who said i was a member?
all i say is the other lot are no different to this lot
i would still vote labour now but i vote for the party not for individuals
leaders come an go

are you telling me that any of the other parties are any different?

no where did i say i was supporting the hospital closure all i have said was it is a done deal and we have to live with it you won't change it
fact of life

Spender · **Posted:** Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:26 am

poolpower wrote:

you won't change it
fact of life

This is the complacency that they rely on. On half the electorate turn out and fewer than a quarter of the people actively vote for Labour.

So eat what you're fed.

poolpower · **Posted:** Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:10 pm

Pooliekev wrote:

poolpower wrote:

you won't change it
fact of life

This is the complacency that they rely on. On half the electorate turn out and fewer than a quarter of the people actively vote for Labour.

So eat what you're fed.

so you should we all be made to vote or lose the right to if you dont

until all politicians get their act together it will be status quo
and 40% of the electorate will get their way

poolpower · **Posted:** Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:20 pm

what when we gave them christianity they dont wan't to know?

poolpower · **Posted:** Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:36 pm

did you get married in church
did you christen your kids in church
have you ever been to a funeral in a church
did you never play footy for a church league team

or have you always been a middle class kebab eating non believer

poolpower · **Posted:** Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:44 pm

is your middle name dodger
or is it you don't know the truth of anything

ANSWER THE BLOODY QUESTION YOU ARE WORSE THAN A POLITICIAN DESPITE THE THREAD CLOSED DOWN

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