Am i one of the minority who agrees with the mayor?

Who the fook are the "vunerable people" who cant get a fix in corals? Lottery, bingo, bandits, everything available.........

Responses (bollocks) below from some councillors include:-

"not in the best interests of the people of the town."

"We need to send out a message about Hartlepool....."

"The aspirations for Hartlepool have to be higher."





Conservative councillor George Morris told fellow councillors that the licensing committee had unanimously backed the 'no casino' rule.

He said it would prevent "vulnerable people that gamble beyond their means" and UKIP councillor Martyn Aiken added it was "not in the best interests of the people of the town."

At one point in the meeting Mayor Drummond even suggested the council opened its own casino.

He said: "Being totally radical why does the council not run its own casino? We are going to have a budget deficit in the next few years so all of the revenue could go back into improving public services."

But, independent councillor Geoff Lilley said: "We need to send out a message about Hartlepool and I think a 'no casino' message is a good one to send out."

Independent councillor Hilary Thompson, who was the only one to support Mayor Drummond, said: "It could bring regeneration and jobs to the town."

But, Labour Councillor Stephen Akers-Belcher, said: "The aspirations for Hartlepool have to be higher."

I think a classy casio, which provides a great night out, full bar, restuarant, show facilities would be much better than the dirty smelly, giro infested bookies that there is pretty much on every street corner now.

A casino is a decent night out & nowhere near as easy to go & lose your giro as a bookies.

Not for Hartlepool though.
The last thing we need is another gambling establishment.
Well done to the council for showing common sense.
Lets see what cuckoo idea the Mayor comes up with next.

Your first line seems to indicate that you agree with the points in the posts above, yet you then dismiss the idea as not being for Hartlepool?

Completely illogical unless you either don't want good things in the town or you just get off on having a go at the Mayor.

not for hartlepool? what does that even mean?

Are we some type of super town that thinks its too good for a classy casino?

Not for Hartlepool means it's not coming here.
I'm not aware of the entertainment facilities in other towns and cities.
Apparently there was only one other person who backed the idea.
Therefore it's not going to happen.
Personally I have nothing against the "Mayor" it's an idiotic idea with taxpayers money that could have been better spent elsewhere.

Yeah i hate them ideas that renovate closed buildings and would bring a stack load of jobs, people and money too the town.

Why is it tax payers money aswell? drum was simply saying in the original article, that he was not ruling out a casino company purchasing it.

Stack loads of jobs ? Maybe a dozen or so at minimum wage.
Money ? The people making most of the money would be the owners.

It's not the only derelict building in need of renovation.
People in power need to start earning their wedge instead of stupid ideas like casinos.

Sorry regarding waste of taxpayers money I was referring to the Mayoral job itself.

lightning tree you have clearly never been to casino

Very true.
I also have no intention of ever going to one.
I'd rather spend my money in pools shop.

How can you possibly comment on one then?

Because my daughter is the coming generation.
I'd like to see the place turned into something she can enjoy.
I'm sure thats what the councillors also want.
We just need someone with the drive and initiative to turn it into something our future children can enjoy.
There, see, I can comment!!

Since when do people get kicked to death.
I have 3 nephews who go out on the town regular and they love it and they are certainly not the fighting type.
I don't know why Drummond bothers either.
I'd resign if I was him. Who needs a 70k a year mayor anyway

All this from you is just a vendetta against the mayor, are you jealous or summit?

Jealous
Never. I wouldn't have took the job in the first place.
You dont even know me.
Have I ever seen you at pools

Stop it. I'm the only one allowed to have a vendetta.

I think you used to work in the kebab shop at king oswy shops, am i right?

I don't know you and i dont claim too, but i've read enough of your posts on here too tell that you dont like the guy and are against anything he tried to do.

Yeah I did when I was at Uni many years ago.
So.......... when you actually go to the home games come and talk to me.
Thank You.

Don't hold your breath, far too much on these days

We all have different opinions chip me old cocksparrow.
I think it would be a bad idea because I dont like casinos.
I would like to see it turned into something more beneficial for the youth of the town thats also why I think its a bad idea.
You have a different opinion. You think it would be a good idea.
I have no problem with that.
I also think the majority of the townspeople wouldn't want it.
So therefore its a bad for the town full stop.
But its not going to be one.

Maybe it could be an ice rink?

Has anyone said that yet

An ice rink would be a very good idea.
I think it was mentioned quite a lot in a previous post regarding a prospective casino.

I don't really care about poker events.
I don't think my daughter does either.
At a guess neither do about 99% of the townspeople.
I want something for the town, for the people to enjoy who actually live here.
Therefore a casino is a non starter, as voted by the duly elected members of the towns council.
There's better things to do in life than gamble.

How am I out of touch
During a recent survey poll from myself including family, friends and work colleagues not one considered a casino a good catch.
I'll say it again. The vast majority of the people in this town would not want a casino.
Its as simple as that.

This lack of vision in this town makes my blood boil - it's Teesbay all over again. We need investment in this town and any type of investment.

For hell's sake we gave ABLE permission to "build" the highest landfill (now there is a contradiction in terms) site in the country despite the outcry over pollution. No I'm not a "looney" I just don't want my children and grand children growing up surround by shiit.

A casino would have been good for Hartlepool - something else for vistors to our town to do if it was delivered correctly.

Let me just remind you all of how upset the councilors in Blackpool were when they learned the government funded casino went to Manachester - they envisaged a casino would rejuvenate Blackpool just think what Hartlepool could have missed out on.

Our councillors don't like to think we are sensible enough to make our own minds up about gambling etc. Arn't they lucky we can make our minds up on election night.

Aye, and vote 'em in again!

Unfortunately that's always going to be the case in this town. Unless we give them a message they will always show lack of consideration for the electorate. That is a very double sided statment hopefully you will read between the lines.

a casino is a fair idea but also what would be is a fookin huge pub so that the tree's 3 nephews can all go there for a drink

personally a decent shop would fit the bill with that lovely area upstairs as a cafe - i liked it in there

i am thinking about buying it and making it like a huge indoor market - low rents, small floor space so high volume of punters, quality cafe upstairs.

would make a fair hotel too

I hardly ever see fighting when I go out down the town, I don't know why people make out it's an occurrence you encounter on such a regular basis.

I've seen more fighting at Pools games this season than I have in Church Street since August.

Read the Mail then and see how many of the GBH type of cases happen in that shitehole of the 1st degree

I think a casino is a cracking idea and to not have been to one and to just poo poo the idea is stupid, i am a member of the Gala and its a nice little place but Aspers in Newcastle is a real classy place. Ive been for a night there and you dont have to spend hundreds to have a good night, you can have a meal or a drink in one of the couple bars they have or do what we done and had a couple hours in there and then went out in China town and had a meal and drink and went back to the casino. The Jacksons landing could be even bigger and better and with all the bars on the marina a stones throw it could make a good night out for a lot of people and would deffo attract a lot of people from out of town

Fk me, I am in complete and utter concurrence with Mr Fireball!

oh my god, ive only just learned of this news, what a bunch of shiit heads we have on our council, so short sighted it is unreal :/ if someone wanted to invest in a casino, why not give them the freedom to do so and help regenereate the town it is the perfect sight and as is blindingly obvious, the lack of other interested parties speaks volumes, feck all else is going to happen on the site wait, I bet it gets used as a car park for the tall ships and then remains untouched for another decade b4 it gets pulled down, in which time a casino would have brought in millions for the town

You get free soft drinks and sandwiches in casinos. I'm a member of one in Leicester and this is the sole reason, I've never put a shilling over a table. It's very interesting to watch though.

It's the idea that decisions are taken to protect people from themseleves. i.e. they should be stopped from taking resposibilty for their own actions, which sticks in the craw.

The decision takers compound this with the attitude that they're sure they'd be able to control themselves in the face of temptation but there's other people out there who don't have the same control as them that they need to protect by patronising them insufferably.

I think I am firmly stuck in the middle on this one. Long term there will be only one winner and that will be the casino owners, it will provide more misery than extacy for the majority of people. However I do have sympathy for the casual gambler who may play poker against others rather than the house, the people who have control and budget the losses that have to travvel 15 miles or more for their hobby at the moment. But for everyone person who can control their gambling there's probably 2 who can't.

I've played table games like BlackJack and Roulette won sometmes, lost others but anyone who has visited a casino especially if you go regular will of seen people lose hundreds of pounds on this style of game in the blink of an eye. Would this temptation be good for Hartlepool?

Although I believe people should be free to do whatever they want with their money at this time of economic uncertainty where many have limited disposable income it doesn't sit as easy having a casino now as it would of done 5 or 6 years ago, I hate the idea of a nanny state but in some cases some people need it.

A casino would also take trade away from other local bars the likes of lotus etc and I think the suggestion that it would bring millions into the town are a tad ambitious. Whether it would promote addiction to gambling is debatable but having a casino would do nothing to help.

We also don't have a lot f the luxury's that Newcastle have such as the baltic, vibrant night life, multi cutural sociery and 2 university's so just because Aspers appears to be a massive ssuccess doesn't mean that a casino here would. How long before it would be Hartlepooled by the trackie bottom brigade gambling away their profit they made flogging the duty free fags?

Are people going to travel from Stockton or Sunderland on a regular basis to go to a casino when there is probably an established venue closer with better transport links than what Hartlepool has?

Ditto - in fact i feel like getting pissed now but i have to be up again in 5 hours. i fancy a game of poker though - might log onto Partypoker.com

You say you've been to casinos, why shouldn't people in Hartlepool be allowed to go.

Not saying they shouldn't but sometimes there needs to be a bit of social responsibility in decision making.

It is not as simple as saying yeah - lets have one as having one MAY have implications on so many things such as other local businesses, crime and peoples general well being.

I like a gamble from time to time - but is the argument that it would make it easier for me to to gamble a strong enough argument to have one here?

Casino Cracking idea ! im a regular through at teeside park (spoilt now by the fact that the dress code has slipped:
anyway if we cant have a casino what about something a bit more up market !! I know a LAP Dancing club!!!!....ahh but that would never get approval would it?

I dont get the idea that if there is a casino here all of a sudden mrs Jones from no 45 will all of a sudden start going and end up losing her house! If people have a gambling problem you will find them in Coral or Ladbrokes on the machines already. I get bored on a night sometimes and have a pop in Corals and have a few quid on a horse or dog or even on the machines and if there was a casino in the town i would even pop in there but i work to hard for my money to just throw it all away and you will find most people are like that, its all about knowing your limits

Well said Mr Kint.

Il tell you what.
If you are all so passionate about a casino why don't you all have some banners made and have a parade up and down York road in support like the gay pride geezers do.

Seriously, no hard feelings but it's the minority on here, I'm pretty sure if there was a vote across the borough there would be an overwhelming no.
And that's what matters.
Not what a few bods on here with a few spare pennies to spend think.

I think it would have been one of the best things that could possibly happen to this town business wise, mr lightning tree is living on another planet if you ask me.

I done a survey of my family and friends and they all would have loved it.

so there!

Mr Tree thinks why have a casino we have Ernie Nichols and las vegas down seaton so thats enough.