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.... suddenly he makes even Mandelson look good

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I mean how contrived is the Cardiff picture, the only thing missing is him kissing a baby.


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The man has been (for a long time) and is a Hartlepool United fan just like you and I are.

If you want to have a go at him for the Hospital event then so be it, I and anyone LIVING in Hartlepool have the right to ask qustions and demand the truth about the U Turn from central goverment.

HE IS AS MUCH A POOLIE AS YOU ARE ..... so let that side of him be.

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The man has been (for a long time) and is a Hartlepool United fan just like you and I are.

If you want to have a go at him for the Hospital event then so be it, I and anyone LIVING in Hartlepool have the right to ask qustions and demand the truth about the U Turn from central goverment.

HE IS AS MUCH A POOLIE AS YOU ARE ..... so let that side of him be.

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Correct Frank, until that it he started using the fact for political gain then it's nothing to do with football. He is a politician first and foremost and if he had any scruples he would resign the Labour party whip.

And of course the fact that he is a Pools supporter is far more important than the hospital which incidentally is the issue we're debating.


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If you want to have a go at him for the Hospital event then so be it, I and anyone LIVING in Hartlepool have the right to ask qustions and demand the truth about the U Turn from central goverment.

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Are you sugessting that because I don't LIVE in Hartlepool I have no right to question the decision?


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Location: Hartlepool - for now....
I also think that it is a bit below the belt to have a go at Wright for being a Poolie, i certainly don't think he is a plastic poolie anyway. As for using Pools for political advantage in the town you really don't have to look any further than drummond surely...?


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I also think that it is a bit below the belt to have a go at Wright for being a Poolie, i certainly don't think he is a plastic poolie anyway. As for using Pools for political advantage in the town you really don't have to look any further than drummond surely...?


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The man has been (for a long time) and is a Hartlepool United fan just like you and I are.

If you want to have a go at him for the Hospital event then so be it, I and anyone LIVING in Hartlepool have the right to ask qustions and demand the truth about the U Turn from central goverment.

HE IS AS MUCH A POOLIE AS YOU ARE ..... so let that side of him be.

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So it's OK just to piss on the town a little bit is it as long as you support the rest??

I don't even live in the country, let alone the town but my relatives do and my family has for generations.

He can play centre forward for Pools for me but to shit on his constituents in such a manner makes him a reprehensible reptile for me, Poolie or no Poolie.


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John you brought football into this ... not me YOU.

No I am not saying that you should not have an opinion on the hospital, however in the end it is the people who are intitled to vote for such things in Hartlepool that will have the say and not anyone from outside who in the end have no direct say.
I understand that you may still have people who you care for in living in the town and that is reason enough for you to be allowed to have your say.

With regards to Iain Wright using any photo shoot for his political gain. That is the whole Idea of any photograpic shoot. Remember our very own Poolie Pride project did YOU and I not talk about how we could get the best out of a photo shoot .... one rule for one and not for others?

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PoolieKev ....

Leave his football out of it it has nothing to do with it.

I am as angry as anyone about the dam turn around of our prime minister, I feel let down and cheated, however I am not turning every and all stones to get at someone. Stick to the hospital it is a good enough reason to have a go.


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I have heard the same story from a hell of a lot of people in Hartlepool who say that the Hospital is poor. They go as far as to have said "If I have a crash, heart attack, broken bone or am in need of a operation" I hope to God I am taken to North, South Tees .....
Of course if you are ill and in danger you will not GIVE A DAM what hospital you are taken to as long as you are taken to one.

Remember if as it has been said it will or could be 10years before any new hospital is ready for use ... how old will we all be then ... what will be our needs?

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Please dont take this the wrong way Phil ..

But as they say... it would be funny if it was not only true but also the norm.

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SO if/when they build this super dooper new state of the art hospital it will presumably come with a large car park to accomodate the travelling hoardes or will it come with a very large and expensive pay and display money spinning car park to pay for the hospital ?


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no complaints about when i was in the general getting a camera where the sun doesnt shine treatment first class and that toast was lovely when the anasthetic wore off :grin:


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i know they made a mess of treating my brothers cancer suffice to say he is no longer with us sad but who is to say a new hospital will be any better after all it may well be staffed with the same people and this is possibly the biggest problem of all


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Back to the point.

To have no hospital in an area the size of Hartlepool is clearly crazy not to mention dangerous and can only be down to cost. This government has just announced that, completely unnecessarily, it is replacing the nuclear weapons system a cost of 25 billion, over a third of the annual cost of the health service.

There is nothing bad in Hartlepool hospital that could not be improved by putting the existing funding in the right places. Bricks and mortar do not make a hospital work, its the people equipment and systems.

It matters not whether Iain Wright is a Pools or a Cowdenbeath supporter I was simply making the point that his words say one thing while his actions say quite another. Yes he resigned his PPS job but that will be marked down as a plus in his Westminster career. He is a member of a government that instigated an independent enquiry into the hospital situation then ignored the recommendations that did not fit into the plan they they already had. That action makes the job of a sitting labour MP for Hartlepool untenable. If Iain Wright genuinely feels strongly about it he should resign the labour whip and argue as an independent, that way he brings national attention to the situation. It's sure as hell that a petition won't work given that the entire country disagrees with the war in Iraq but the government insists that we remain there against the will of the people.

Oh and by the way Frank, Hartepool hospital is part of the NHS and as such I have as much say in it as anyone.


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PoolieKev ....

Leave his football out of it it has nothing to do with it.

I am as angry as anyone about the dam turn around of our prime minister, I feel let down and cheated, however I am not turning every and all stones to get at someone. Stick to the hospital it is a good enough reason to have a go.



Frank....

I am disappointed that there are no WORDS in capital letters in this POST.

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To be honest how will this new super dooper hospital improve our service. Will it cut waiting times? It was on the news the other day saying it was going to cost £220 million, so i guess that they will increase our taxes in order to pay for it.

I for one am happy that I have private health insurance through work. When I needed an operation on my knee a few years back I went private and I had my initial consultation and operation done before my appointment to see the consultant was due on the NHS. I went through to Nuffield in Norton for it, was there for 12 o clock and I was back home for 6 o clock.


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I thought the one thing we could all agree on was the need to have an hospital in the town, but it appears the old Hartlepool affliction of slagging eveything we have continues to run riot ...... good job we don't apply the same logic to Pools eh? ..... because there's bigger and better just down the road......so why aint we all rushing for season tickets at the big three.

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Im highly annoyed :evil: at the prospect of our hospital closing and a new one being built at Wynyard.

My 3 year-old daughter suffers from febrile convulsions which in the most extreme cases can be fatal, she has had 12 since she was 6 months old and an ambulance has been called every single time, it takes roughly 15 mins for the ambulance to get to our house(which is about 2 minutes walk from the hospital)and then to hospital itself.

How long to Wynyard or wherever?

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I want a hospital in Hartlepool ... end of. While your situation may be different, the vast majority of people need a common or garden General Hospital in the town. We have had to spend time travelling out of town for medical reasons and I accept that for certain specialist services this is inevitable. But that can't detract from the fact that we need a hospital.

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A hospital must be a difficult place to work, there is a positive and a negative to everything, for those that suffer there are those that are elated at every hospital, but few would weight more on the positive.

Personal feelings aside ( I like countless others have good and tragic thoughts on the hospital) the question wether we need a hospital or not must be answered with a resounding yes, the fact the we need a hospital with more trained staff is also surely a resounding yes.

More staff
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Elvis Costellos Glasses wrote:
I agree, isn't Wynyard in Hartlepool like? The Stockton Borough Council sign.....where does it kick in on the a689?? Wolviston is certainly part of Hartlepool.
Wynyard is not in Hartlepool and neither is Wolviston.... the sign on the A689 covers a stretch where the boundaries cross and further down the road near Wynyard Business park you'll see the sign for Stockton again before the Wynyard roundabout...refernce to Ordanance Survey Map Landranger 93 will confirm this..I like maps like you like music :wink:

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the hospital will be closed and rightly so
you cannot slag off Ian Wright for trying to save it
or for being powerless to stop the closure
in this world only a few people make the decisions that affect us all
he was doing what he thought was right for the constituents as for resigning the party whip dont make me laugh

as for being a poolie what the hell difference does it make
i tell you what look at most of the business people of this town and tell me how many you see supporting pools
these are the people who can make the difference to this town and they are all sat on a Saturday afternoon supporting the smoggies NOW THAT RATTLES MY CAGE MORE THAN ANY LOCAL MP WEARING HIS POOLS SHIRT
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Elvis Costellos Glasses wrote:
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Im highly annoyed :evil: at the prospect of our hospital closing and a new one being built at Wynyard.

My 3 year-old daughter suffers from febrile convulsions which in the most extreme cases can be fatal, she has had 12 since she was 6 months old and an ambulance has been called every single time, it takes roughly 15 mins for the ambulance to get to our house(which is about 2 minutes walk from the hospital)and then to hospital itself.

How long to Wynyard or wherever?

An absolute disgrace.


Don't the ambulances come from Wooler Road ambulance station 3Quid?
When I lived in Elwick Rd the bloke next door got electrocuted in the garden, I rang the ambulance and it was there in about 90 seconds.


What i mean Elvis, is 15 Minutes in total....from it leaving the ambulance station to arriving at A&E.

Wynyard would take at LEAST 25 minutes.

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STILL LEAVING THE TOWN NO MATTER WHICH WAY THEY GO
AND HE COULD HAVE BEEN SITTING IN HANGUS'S CHAIR COULD HE NOT

BUT THOSE SILLY BUGGERS IN HARTLEPOOL GOT IT RIGHT FOR ONCE DESPITE THE RIDICULE


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'the hospital will be closed and rightly so'

How do you come to that expert analysis poolpower????????


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the hospital will be closed and rightly so

...tell me that's a typo...

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poolpower wrote:
you cannot slag off Ian Wright for trying to save it
or for being powerless to stop the closure


How ?
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as for being a poolie what the hell difference does it make i tell you what look at most of the business people of this town and tell me how many you see supporting pools


They are not the MP

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these are the people who can make the difference to this town and they are all sat on a Saturday afternoon supporting the smoggies NOW THAT RATTLES MY CAGE MORE THAN ANY LOCAL MP WEARING HIS POOLS SHIRT


They are not the MP


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I've voted Labour all my life, but if it's the MP or the hospital, it's goodbye Mr W .... incidentally, since Friday, I'm officially a floating voter!

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Snowy wrote:
I've voted Labour all my life, but if it's the MP or the hospital, it's goodbye Mr W .... incidentally, since Friday, I'm officially a floating voter!


Hartlepool is a safe seat isn't it snowy?

Not any more.


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3Quid wrote:
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I've voted Labour all my life, but if it's the MP or the hospital, it's goodbye Mr W .... incidentally, since Friday, I'm officially a floating voter!


Hartlepool is a safe seat isn't it snowy?

Not any more.
..it was.... :evil:

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If Adolf Hitler gets on it, even he'd be evens

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Elvis Costellos Glasses wrote:
If Our Jody gets on the Hospital bandwagon quickly, she'll be in before you can say Chic Ellett!
Fact is, come the next election, anyone fighting the seat is gonna have a field day with this one.

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Ian, whoever these rich blokes are its their choice where they go and who they support. It is also their choice what medical cover they have, they have that luxury. I have BUPA cover through work so I'm not arguing for my own benefit either. The majority of the people in Hartlepool are not so lucky, they have to rely on the NHS. I say again, to have no hospital in a town the size of Hartlepool is an incredible decision and entirely down to Labour cutting costs. They are thousands of administrators in the organisation who do little else but manage budgets and targets, that is where the cost savings lie not in closing hospitals.

Besides the rich guys do not need to stand for parliament, If they are that rich they can always go to Tony's market stall and buy themselves a peerage thus qualifiying them for the house of lords.

By supporting Blair and his cronies you really do suprise me, they are more right wing than Maggie Thatcher ever was. The only decent choice for Hartlepool is Jody Dunn. Lets face it she is the most left wing of any of the realistic candidates. The days when Labour stood for the working man are long long gone.

As I keep repeating, my issue with the current MP is that he is is playing politics and I am bemused as to how many people cannot see through it. If he was really serious about having a hospital in the town he would resign. Not resign as PPS, I mean really resign. His resignation as a PPS will have been preceded with a chat in the whips office and his reasons will have been noted by the hiararchy. They will have accepted that he has no option but to leave the department of health if he wishes to retain a Labour seat at the next elecion. It has done his Labour career no harm at all. If he is as dead against it as he says then he has the option of remaining as MP but resigning the whip shows that he really disagrees with Labour policy.

One of Labours real heroes of the past Nye Bevan, he invented the NHS. How do you think he would have viewed this then Ian? Have a look at his resignation speech, the bloke had principles and resigned over Labour NSH cuts. Ironic?

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Let me say to my hon. Friends on these benches: you have been saying in the last fortnight or three weeks that I have been quarrelling about a triviality - spectacles and dentures. You may call it a triviality. I remember the triviality that started an avalanche in 1931. I remember it very well, and perhaps my hon. Friends would not mind me recounting it. There was a trade union group meeting upstairs. I was a member of ft and went along. My good friend, "Geordie" Buchanan, did not come along with me because he thought it was hopeless, and he proved to be a better prophet than I was. But I had more credulity in those days than I have got now. So I went along, and the first subject was an attack on the seasonal workers. That was the first order. I opposed it bitterly, and when I came out of the room my good old friend George Lansbury attacked me for attacking the order. I said, "George, you do not realise, this is the beginning of the end. Once you start this there is no logical stopping point."

The Chancellor of the Exchequer in this year's Budget proposes to reduce the Health expenditure by £13 million - only £13 million out of £4,000 million. No, £4,000 million. He has taken £13 million out of the Budget total of £4,000 million. If he finds it necessary to mutilate, or begin to mutilate, the Health Services for £13 million out of £4,000 million, what will he do next year? Or are you next year going to take your stand on the upper denture? The lower half apparently does not matter, but the top half is sacrosanct. Is that right? If my hon. Friends are asked questions at meetings about what they will do next year, what will they say?

The Chancellor of the Exchequer is putting a financial ceiling on the Health Service. With rising prices the Health Service is squeezed between that artificial figure and rising prices. What is to be squeezed out next year? Is it the upper half`? When that has been squeezed out and the same principle holds good, what do you squeeze out the year after? Prescriptions? Hospital charges? Where do you stop? I have been accused of having agreed to a charge on prescriptions. That shows the danger of compromise. Because if it is pleaded against me that I agreed to the modification of the Health Service, then what will be pleaded against my right hon. Friends next year, and indeed what answer will they have if the vandals opposite come in? What answer? The Health Service will be like Lavinia - all the limbs cut off and eventually her tongue cut out, too.
I should like to ask my Right hon. and hon. Friends, where are they going? Where am I going? I am where I always was. Those who live their lives in mountainous and rugged countries are always afraid of avalanches, and they know that avalanches start with the movement of a very small stone. First, the stone starts on a ridge between two valleys - one valley desolate and the other valley populous. The pebble starts, but nobody bothers about the pebble until it gains way, and soon the whole valley is overwhelmed. That is how the avalanche starts, that is the logic of the present situation, and that is the logic my right hon. and hon. Friends cannot escape. Why, therefore, has it been done in this way?

After all, the National Health Service was something of which we were all very proud, and even the Opposition were beginning to be proud of it. It only had to last a few more years to become a part of our traditions, and then the traditionalists would have claimed the credit for all of it. Why should we throw it away? In the Chancellor's Speech there was not one word of commendation for the Health Service - not one word. What is responsible for that?

Why has the cut been made? He cannot say, with an overall surplus of over £220 million and a conventional surplus of £39 million, that he had to have the £13 million. That is the arithmetic of Bedlam. He cannot say that his arithmetic is so precise that he must have the £13 million when last year the Treasury were £247 million out. Why? Has the A M.A. succeeded in doing what the B. M.A. failed to do? What is the cause of it? Why has it been done?

I have also been accused - and I think I am entitled to answer it - that I had already agreed to a certain charge. I speak to my right hon. Friends very frankly here. It seems to me sometimes that it is so difficult to make them see what lies ahead that you have to take them along by the hand and show them. The prescription charge I knew would never be made, because it was impracticable. Well, it was never made.

I will tell my hon. Friends something else, too. There was another policy - there was a proposed reduction of 25,000 on the housing programme, was there not? It was never made. It was necessary for me at that time to use what everybody always said were bad tactics upon my part - I had to manoeuvre, and I did manoeuvre and saved the 25,000 houses and the prescription charge. I say, therefore, to my right hon. and hon. Friends, there is no justification for taking this line at all. There is no justification in the arithmetic, there is less justification in the economics, and I beg my right hon. and hon. Friends to change their minds about it.

I say this, in conclusion. There is only one hope for mankind and that is democratic Socialism. There is only one party in Great Britain which can do ft and that is the Labour Party. But I ask them carefully to consider how far they are polluting the stream. We have gone a long way - a very long way - against great difficulties. Do not let us change direction now. Let us make ft clear, quite clear, to the rest of the world that we stand where we stood, that we are not going to allow ourselves to be diverted from our path by the exigencies of the immediate situation. We shall do what is necessary to - defend ourselves defend ourselves by arms, and not only with arms but with the spiritual resources of our people.


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just an easy target for any tory then


A cheap shot when I'm arguing the socialists point!


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Four years down the line, our health service will be accessed by a bus gaudily painted as the 'NORTH TEES HOSPITAL CONNECTION'... will our MP be proudly cutting the ribbon..?

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Elvis Costellos Glasses wrote:
A bit from me if it's ok....

Our hospital, or certainly the 3 departments I've ever been personally involved in, is crap, endof.

My two girls were born in Newcastle, out of choice, because of the failings of Hartlepool General Hospital. My eldest (who has Muscular Dystrophy)has all her treatment at James Cook University Hospital, out of choice, because of the failings of Hartlepool General Hospital. My middle brother is having a major operation in East Riding Infirmary, Hull in April because of the lack of resources in Hartlepool General Hospital.(and his partner works in our Hospital...)

Sorry, but I won't be sorry to see it go. If that's selfish, then I apologise but you can only go by personal experience. Let 'em build a brand new state-of-the-art hospital at Wynyard, it's nearer for half of the town anyway.


I have different experiences of hpool hospital though - they saved my daughter's life on two occassions and for that I cannot knock them - however I am aware of many who have suffered alternative fortunes with them and they have my sympathies.

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I remember a few seasons ago when at 1:45 on a match day the Vic looked like the Pentagon with gadgies with wires in their ears roaming round the place coz a certain peter M was visiting, then at 2:15 they badgered off up the road to St James with a certain Mr M in a JAg clappp

Ian, "the hospital should be closed and rightly so"...Why?
Why are Hospices not funded by government when cancer is one of the leading causes of death?

For fooks sake You call thatcher for closing pits ?

And you dared call ME a Tory

Debate over


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poolpower wrote:
the hospital will be closed and rightly so /
you cannot slag off Ian Wright for trying to save it


I'm confused confised


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i come to my conclusion in the same way Phil does
my own experience after an accident
where my family were told i would be shipped off to Nottingham on Monday after an accident on Saturday
my pelvis was in five pieces and i was told it needed specialist treatment only available in Nottingham
i was told that i would have an operation on my injured arm on the Monday then sent off for the treatment to my pelvis
guess what
non of that treatment came to fruition
it took then seven months after the fall to put a plate in my arm which was still hanging on by a thread
Nottingham never materialised
i had an xray on my injuries a month ago
i now need both hips replacing and the damage to my spine and shoulder they can't do anything about
the excuse they gave at the time was that it will heal in time i am still waiting for that event to happen
as i was not a twenty five year old footballer i was brushed to one side


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Ian, maybe we should knock down the General and have a new one. The issue is not that its the fact that it is planned to be in Stockton - near as damn it! Meanwhile Labour can sell of the old site to be used for more 'executive housing' How many executives does Hartlepool have?

Your experiences are unfortunate undoubtedly but I don't see how removing a hospital from the town makes things better.


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I accept Hartlepool General is not the best hospital in the world, I have had experiences that bear that out. But it's the only hospital we've got!!!!

Surely it would be better to improve what we have got rather than close it & move everything out of town? It's not the building at fault but the staff/administration & they will all, no doubt, move to the new "super hospital" so it won't be any better, just the same, only further away

Moving the hospital will cost lives, treatment for the likes of heart attacks, strokes & victims of serious accidents are time critical! Moving the hospital 10 miles away will cause FATAL delays

All in the name of saving a few quid?

Government in general & the Prime Minister & our MP in particular are lying, cheating, BASTADS

Hope they burn in hell


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Cowboy wrote:

All in the name of saving a few quid?



And it will probably only be a few quid and will take 40 years or so to save that few quid.

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i wont bore you with the mother in laws experience then were she went in and at eighty eight years old and walking with a frame had to try and clean the toilet before she could use it
or the day i went in and found all of her prescribed medicine for the day standing in a row in pots on top of the bed side cabinet
when i queried it with the staff the whole lot was scooped up in front of me and taken away this person telling me that she had had all of her medicine it was on the chart
the only thing they gave her in there was MRSA THEN DENIED THE FACT
i will tell you of the nights i stayed in there to make sure she was looked after as she had rang for staff and was ignored all night
this same staff who spent the night in the bathroom opposite her room smoking and drinking lager from cans ignoring the pleas of elderly patients
the same staff who looking after incontinent old man that kept falling out of bed ,,,and his family found him on two occasions on the floor at visiting time
this same staff that used alcohol hand cleaner on plastic gloves rather than discard them
then they have the bloody cheek to say that she had MRSA when she came in despite a check made on arrival that she did not
that is two cases that affect me and i have only touched on the real story


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Ian, nobody is saying that the hospital is perfect, far from it. The issue is knocking it down and not replacing it in the town. alternatively they could give all the resources to the doctors and nurses to control.


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poolpower wrote:
i wont bore you with the mother in laws experience then were she went in and at eighty eight years old and walking with a frame had to try and clean the toilet before she could use it
or the day i went in and found all of her prescribed medicine for the day standing in a row in pots on top of the bed side cabinet
when i queried it with the staff the whole lot was scooped up in front of me and taken away this person telling me that she had had all of her medicine it was on the chart
the only thing they gave her in there was MRSA THEN DENIED THE FACT
i will tell you of the nights i stayed in there to make sure she was looked after as she had rang for staff and was ignored all night
this same staff who spent the night in the bathroom opposite her room smoking and drinking lager from cans ignoring the pleas of elderly patients
the same staff who looking after incontinent old man that kept falling out of bed ,,,and his family found him on two occasions on the floor at visiting time
this same staff that used alcohol hand cleaner on plastic gloves rather than discard them
then they have the bloody cheek to say that she had MRSA when she came in despite a check made on arrival that she did not
that is two cases that affect me and i have only touched on the real story


If you read my post again I agree the hospital needs to improve, building a new one at Wynyard WILL NOT cure these problems, the STAFF will be the same, the FUNDING will be the same - It will still be crap, only further away, nothing will be any better

Well I'm not QUITE right, I'm sure some of Tony Blair's cronies will have made a few million out of it, which will improve things for them. We will just have more dead people, because it will take 20 minutes longer for them to reach Hospital

As I have said, a poor hospital is better than no hospital at all

Oh and incidentally Hartlepool has no monopoly on MRSA, our next door neighbours daughter contracted it - in the wonderful (apparently) NORTH TEES HOSPITAL


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