Trouble in Cuckoo Land

ANTHRAX · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:39 am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8385069.stm

How does the ban make the Muslims feel "unwelcome"

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22671

Because wherever muslims are found they chuck up huge mosques adorned with masses of minerets. The 'President Sadaam Hussein Mosque' in Birmingham for example.

Well done to the chocolate munchers!

Compo · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:48 pm

I couldnt give a crap if loads of mosques were thrown up anywere its just a building we have loads of church's here so why not, people are worshipping the same god if thats what you want to believe in.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22671

Compo wrote:

I couldnt give a crap if loads of mosques were thrown up anywere its just a building we have loads of church's here so why not, people are worshipping the same god if thats what you want to believe in.

Naiveity is a wonderful thing.

Compo · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:54 pm

Mr I wrote:

Compo wrote:

I couldnt give a crap if loads of mosques were thrown up anywere its just a building we have loads of church's here so why not, people are worshipping the same god if thats what you want to believe in.

Naiveity is a wonderful thing.

love the way you said were ever muslims are found you always find loads of mineretes, you could say were ever christians are found there are loads of churches.

I am not religious in any way but the two buildings in my eyes are the same and should be viewed the same everywhere.

parmopooly · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:56 pm

religion divides people and creates prejudice between folks from all over the world. The fact any of it has a place in today's world is beyond belief (sic)

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22671

Why (sic)

Obafemi Obsession · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:00 pm

chip fireball wrote:

Mr I wrote:

Because wherever muslims are found they chuck up huge mosques adorned with masses of minerets. The 'President Sadaam Hussein Mosque' in Birmingham for example.

Well done to the chocolate munchers!

theres 4 minarets in the whole of switzerland, but dont let your islamophobia get in the way of the facts. :roll:

Here we go. Deuce Bigalo has arrived.

parmopooly · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:02 pm

Mr I wrote:

Why (sic)

it's a means of mass- brainwashing folks. It seems only certain cults get picked out for ridicule, such as The Moonies, but to me they should all be ridiculed.
Mohammed at the Mountain and virgin births indeed.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:05 pm

chip fireball wrote:

Mr I wrote:

Because wherever muslims are found they chuck up huge mosques adorned with masses of minerets. The 'President Sadaam Hussein Mosque' in Birmingham for example.

Well done to the chocolate munchers!

theres 4 minarets in the whole of switzerland, but dont let your islamophobia get in the way of the facts. :roll:

But you can't have hundreds if you've never had 4.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22671

Oh here we go, I didn't think it would take long for the apologist in chief to arrive.

We wouldn't have islamaphobia if they didn't keep trying to kill us all.

Compo · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:10 pm

Mr I wrote:

Oh here we go, I didn't think it would take long for the apologist in chief to arrive.

We wouldn't have islamaphobia if they didn't keep trying to kill us all.

Yeah because the Christians are so great :roll:

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:33 pm

The Mosque in Hartlepool is one of the nicest buildings in the town.

Spender · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:08 pm

Religions, every one of them, without exception, are based on fear. :wink:

Anyone who doesn't realise this...is.. errmmm....should be shot in the face and thrown in a skip..marked piss stained tramps....no...hang on...

But you know what I mean...who actually DID roast in hell?? Who did get 27 virgins, which would be a lousy buck anyway, who made it to Nirvana and came back and told us how good it was?? The lifestyle is OK but the belief is all big cock... :roll:

grabec · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:28 pm

Did you know that nowhere in the Bible is Hell mentioned? Some Pope or other made it up, apparently.

Compo · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:30 pm

grabec wrote:

Did you know that nowhere in the Bible is Hell mentioned? Some Pope or other made it up, apparently.

same as the devil the number of the beast 666, is actually representative of the name Nero who was the empirer who tried to disband chrisitanity, well thats what i read anyway.

grabec · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:36 pm

Compo wrote:

grabec wrote:

Did you know that nowhere in the Bible is Hell mentioned? Some Pope or other made it up, apparently.

same as the devil the number of the beast 666, is actually representative of the name Nero who was the empirer who tried to disband chrisitanity, well thats what i read anyway.

Yup....someone made the Bible up, someone else mistranslated it, and someone else again invented footnotes. I stick to proper fiction, meself.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

What will probably happen now is that some Islamic fundamentalist group will declare a Jihad on Switzerland and suicide bombers will appear.
Can anybody tell me which Islamic country treats Christians with equal reverance to Muslims?????
Can anybody tell me how many Christian churches have been erected in any country which has adopted Islamic fundamentalism????
Before anybody jumps up and down, all I am interested in are level playing fields.

Frodraff · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:03 pm

grabec wrote:

Did you know that nowhere in the Bible is Hell mentioned? Some Pope or other made it up, apparently.

Oh aye, you and Ian Paisley eh....... blaming the Catholics.

IT'S ALL THE FAULT OF THE CATHOLICS I TELL YEE.

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

derwent wrote:

What will probably happen now is that some Islamic fundamentalist group will declare a Jihad on Switzerland and suicide bombers will appear.
Can anybody tell me which Islamic country treats Christians with equal reverance to Muslims?????
Can anybody tell me how many Christian churches have been erected in any country which has adopted Islamic fundamentalism????
Before anybody jumps up and down, all I am interested in are level playing fields.

Getting to the point....... Spot on.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

chip fireball wrote:

why dont you try turkey for starters ? although 95% of its population is muslim secularism is actually written into its constitution.

then again that would be facts getting in the way of people taling bollocks again. :roll:

Why don't you answer the question????
There is no one, and I mean no one, who talks more bollox on here than you, my sexy friend. :wink:

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

chip fireball wrote:

for the record theres just over 300 catholic/greek orthodox/anglican churches in turkey.

And how many of those churches were built under an Islamic fundamentalist state?????
Just for the record like.

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:07 pm

derwent wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

for the record theres just over 300 catholic/greek orthodox/anglican churches in turkey.

And how many of those churches were built under an Islamic fundamentalist state?????
Just for the record like.

Torkee is a secular society

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22671

chip fireball wrote:

why dont you try turkey for starters ? although 95% of its population is muslim secularism is actually written into its constitution.

then again that would be facts getting in the way of people taling bollocks again. :roll:

Stick to lurve Chip, history doesn't seem to be your strong point.

Istanbul was Christian before they built the mosques. The Hagia Sophia - biggest mosque in the world was actually a Christian church before the Ottoman Sultan Mehmed got the keys.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

Mr I wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

why dont you try turkey for starters ? although 95% of its population is muslim secularism is actually written into its constitution.

then again that would be facts getting in the way of people taling bollocks again. :roll:

Stick to lurve Chip, history doesn't seem to be your strong point.

Istanbul was Christian before they built the mosques. The Hagia Sophia - biggest mosque in the world was actually a Christian church before the Ottaman Sultan Mehmed got the keys.

Sometimes, just sometimes, Mr chip has some good points regarding football. Not all the time mind you, as he reflects the level he played at which, at best can only be described as mediocre, but with regard to the ways of the world he generaly talks very very amateurish.
Personally I think his attempts at gaining kudos from trying to convince the rest of us of his Casanova resemblance or Bond like gambling expertise is nothing short of pathetic.
Sorry Mr Chip, but...................... aw go on I'll say it..............perhaps you should have followed POK's example and got yourself a real education.
HTH.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

TalbotAvenger wrote:

derwent wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

for the record theres just over 300 catholic/greek orthodox/anglican churches in turkey.

And how many of those churches were built under an Islamic fundamentalist state?????
Just for the record like.

Torkee is a secular society

Which is not the answer to my question. It is written in quite intelligible English, probably to much for Mr Chip though. :roll:

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22671

Incidentally, the bloke on my avatar was Mehmet's lifetime enemy.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

Mr I wrote:

Incidentally, the bloke on my avatar was Mehmet's lifetime enemy.

Quite.

Bramstein · **Joined:** Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:49 pm **Posts:** 1526

I dare say there have been precious few churches built in states which are under Islamic Law. What's your point Derwent?

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

Bramstein wrote:

I dare say there have been precious few churches built in states which are under Islamic Law. What's your point Derwent?

Are you serious?????

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

Further to the church of the Holy wisdom ( Hagia Sophia )

Built as a Christian Church in C 537 AD by Arthemius of Thalles and Isadorus of Miletis.

It became a mosque in 1453, over nine hundred years later, at which point the four minarets were added.

Bramstein · **Joined:** Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:49 pm **Posts:** 1526

Quote:

Are you serious?????

With regards to what? Asking what your point is or that I don't think many Churches have been built in states which are currently under Islamic Law? The latter was merely an educational guess on my behalf. I have no idea if any have or haven't but in a state which adheres to Islam I wouldn't have thought other religions would be suppressed. Much in the same way that any religion were suppressed in states alligned to Communist ideology during the cold war.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

Bramstein wrote:

Quote:

Are you serious?????

With regards to what? Asking what your point is or that I don't think many Churches have been built in states which are currently under Islamic Law? The latter was merely an educational guess on my behalf. I have no idea if any have or haven't but in a state which adheres to Islam I wouldn't have thought other religions would be suppressed. Much in the same way that any religion were suppressed in states alligned to Communist ideology during the cold war.

Which is exactly my point.
A hue and cry because Muslims are denied in so called Christian countries. I am highlighting what happens in reverse. Agreeing with you in short.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

chip fireball wrote:

derwent, your question was:

Can anybody tell me which Islamic country treats Christians with equal reverance to Muslims?????

my answer was turkey, which actually has secularism written into its constitution despite over 98% of it population being muslim.

i have answered your question with a factually correct answer and yet you have made comments like :

"It is written in quite intelligible English, probably to much for Mr Chip though."

"Personally I think his attempts at gaining kudos from trying to convince the rest of us of his Casanova resemblance or Bond like gambling expertise is nothing short of pathetic.
Sorry Mr Chip, but...................... aw go on I'll say it..............perhaps you should have followed POK's example and got yourself a real education "

"There is no one, and I mean no one, who talks more bollox on here than you."

surely i cant be the first person to make you look a c*** ?

So Christians are treat the same as Muslims in Turkey. In one post you said Muslims were 95% of the population and in another you said they were 98%.
Now who is making who look a c*** ?
You can't even correlate one post with another.
Go on tell me that there is no prejudice against Christians in Turkey???? rolfl

There is prejudice against minorities in every country, including this one.
Isn't that what the thread is all about.............starting with Switzerland..........or are you so gullible that you pin your faith on constitutions.

ANTHRAX · **Posted:** Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:43 pm

My ORIGINAL post (a while ago) was why do they feel unwelcome, they can have mosques (or places of worship) just not minnarets

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

chip fireball wrote:

and i certainly wont be the last..... :laugh:

another retard who talks when he should be listening. no wonder most of the fookers with anything worth saying have deserted this sinking piece of shyte.

trimdon

monty

mad john

all gone cos of the constant sub bnp crap, that has fook all to do with pools, the town, or football in general, and simply attracts more cretins by the day.

I don't know Trimdon or Monty, they must be before my time on here.
No matter what the subject is on here, it seems to attract you.............are you the consummate cretin????
If this board is a sinking piece of shyte then you must take some responsibility for that...............probably due to the fact that anybody who hammers you down ( like me ) rolfl

, is usually called retard, cretin etc etc.

I take it you are ignoring my question on Christian churches built in Islamic fundamentalist states. You only got Turkey wrong by about 900 years.
Turkey was Christian until 1453 and now you say it is either 95% or 98% Muslim. Any idea how that came about oh wise one. Go on tell us the Christians were so overwhelmed by the Isamic argument that they converted en masse. rolfl

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22671

I bet the Swiss bankers will not be happy, they might experience a few withdrawals.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

Nobody is questioning the turkish constitution. I am questioning whether there is an Islamic country where Christians are held in the same esteem as Muslims.
Muslims are held in higher esteem in Turkey than Christians, especially where religion is concerned. Are you seriously suggesting that any Muslim in Turkey seriously considers any Christian to be a religious equal.
Islam itself sees any Infidel ( non believer ) as inferior.
It is the nature of the religion.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

As for the rest of your claptrap like turning The Hartlepool Mosque into a Pasty shop, that is a measure of your intelligence.
You pack up posting if you want, that's your choice. People always say if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.......so that's your choice.............it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. HTH :wink:

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

I'm going to bed now so you have all night to conjure up more claptrap.

Maybe you can explain why Muslims threw eggs at Baroness Warsi, and then tried to justify their act by saying she wasn't a true Muslim.
Go on, Chip.............I'm sure it says in our constitution something about all British citizens being equal.

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

[x] worst cyber argument ever.

GroovyCrimes · **Posted:** Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:42 am

TalbotAvenger wrote:

derwent wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

for the record theres just over 300 catholic/greek orthodox/anglican churches in turkey.

And how many of those churches were built under an Islamic fundamentalist state?????
Just for the record like.

Torkee is a secular society

I thought it was just a seaside town in Devon

Basil Fawlty · **Posted:** Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:37 am

We wouldn't have islamaPHOBIA if THEY didn't keep trying to KILL US ALL

confised

Fark Orf

Spender · **Posted:** Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:52 am

Bramstein wrote:

Much in the same way that any religion were suppressed in states alligned to Communist ideology during the cold war.

We've got both a mosque and a cathycat church in town although most of the people round here are either Bhuddist or Taoist. The French built quite a few catholic churches round here back in the 1800's.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12375

chip fireball wrote:

derwent wrote:

Muslims are held in higher esteem in Turkey than Christians,.

ah, yr now an expert on the thoughts of the entire turkish population, as well as islam ? presumably you have interviewed every last one of them personally ?

junior headlander is in the building. :roll:

Ah, selecting pieces of posts rather than the full text now are we????
Junior Ian Wright in the building.
For every insult or name calling you'll get one back my illiterate fantasist.
Then maybe you'll learn how to debate without calling people retards, c**** or cretins.
I doubt it like. therethere

Obafemi Obsession · **Posted:** Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:17 am

40-15

Salty · **Posted:** Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:56 pm

John 11:35

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