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 Post subject: Turners lack of faith in his signings...
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:35 am 
It's about time this was brought up.

His substitutions are nonsensical and illogical at times, tonight’s just about ended the game. Firstly I'm not having a go at young Billy Greulich he's young lad trying to make his way in the game and good luck to him BUT!

On the bench we had, Bjornsson, Fredriksen, and McSweeney all on a good decent wage all summer signings (yes I know Greulich was as well, but he's a kid and someone I didn't expect to feature in the first team this season). The two lads he saw play once in Norway don't get a sniff, Fredriksen doesn't even get the opportunity to play in his proper position in the reserves.

The options were;A striker who's played international football with a lot to prove to us who could have came on for Behan.

McSweeney on the right, putting a promising (and having started the last two fooking games as well) front two back together in Brown and Boyd. My vote.

He has even started Monkhouse on the right lately so he could have shifted Brown up front, Monky to the right, Freddy in his proper position on the left.

But no, he puts on a young green as grass lad against an extremely experienced but not very good side especially the centre backs, strong but shite they must have been laughing when a kid came on.

Clueless if you ask me. But he's under no real pressure is he so we'll just plod on letting team we could beat tickle our belly because they are a 'bigger club' and have a divine right. We were terrible second half tonight and for some reason I was totally pissed off by it all.


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 Post subject: Re: Turners lack of faith in his signings...
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:40 am 
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Yeah i really cant get my head around that substitution tonight and in other games. Hes brought these lads in from abroad yet doesnt want to play them, what was the young kid meant to do when he came on. He shouldnt really be on the bench never mind coming on. I wish CT would do another one of those 'ask chris' things on the official site because i will be asking him about his reasons in never playing Armann and freddie!


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 Post subject: Re: Turners lack of faith in his signings...
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:47 am 
He was quoted the other week saying young Billy isn't ready yet, but picked him first out of six subs sctatchinghead

All the other options were players HE has signed as senior pro's sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: Turners lack of faith in his signings...
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:00 am 
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Turners record in the transfer market since January is poor. He has done a good job of sorting the defence with Flinders and Austin (still not convinced by Hartley) but the forward players he has brought in leave a lot to be desired.

Out of Henderson, Parker, Guy, Lange, Nardiello, Freddie, Bjornsson, McSweeney, Boyd, Greulich and Behan there is Nardiello for me who proved he can consistently play at League 1 standard. That's fcking worrying.

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 Post subject: Re: Turners lack of faith in his signings...
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:57 am 
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My pre match optimism drained from me the moment I heard the team read out. Brown, IMO, needs to be upfront.

I was fearing he'd be stuck back on the wing the moment I knew Larkin was out. Brown is out most dangerous attacker. He's quick and he has the ball skills to beat people. We managed to get the ball into Southampton's box on several occasions last night but there's no one there to take advantage of it. Behan doesn't get involved enough for me and Boyd doesn't play well with him as a partner. Against Orient, a poor team admitedly, he had a good game with Brown alongside him. Why didn't Turner try this again and try someone else on the wing?

Turner simply doesn't know how to change a game around or even realise things need changing given last night's display and similar ones against Brentford and Wycombe. 15 mins to go, 2-1 down, and he didn't change a single thing, aside from bringing Greulich on for Behan, which of course he had no choice but to do given the latter's injury.

Grrrrrr banghead


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 Post subject: Re: Turners lack of faith in his signings...
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:35 pm 
PJ_Poolie wrote:
McSweeney on the right, putting a promising (and having started the last two fooking games as well) front two back together in Brown and Boyd. My vote.



Exactly what Mr.LightningTree Text me last night after the substitution!!!! confised confised


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 Post subject: Re: Turners lack of faith in his signings...
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:36 pm 
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Out of Henderson, Parker, Guy, Lange, Nardiello, Freddie, Bjornsson, McSweeney, Boyd, Greulich and Behan there is Nardiello for me who proved he can consistently play at League 1 standard. That's fcking worrying.


Not Boyd???? sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: Turners lack of faith in his signings...
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Its another home game with another abject performance though the first half we made quite a decent effort to play the ball.

I wouldn't trust turner with 50p in the transfer market.

Did he watch the Iceman before he signed him sctatchinghead
Did he watch Freddy before he signed him sctatchinghead
Did he watch Behan before he signed him sctatchinghead

Of course he took plenty of positives out of the teams display stpid
What about the foooking negatives Mr Turner banghead

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 Post subject: Re: Turners lack of faith in his signings...
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MutleyRules wrote:
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Out of Henderson, Parker, Guy, Lange, Nardiello, Freddie, Bjornsson, McSweeney, Boyd, Greulich and Behan there is Nardiello for me who proved he can consistently play at League 1 standard. That's fcking worrying.


Not Boyd???? sctatchinghead

Boyd has done fck all in the games I've seen bar Swindon away and has been as frustrating as ever IMO. I'm still yet to be convinced it was a good idea bringing him back.

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 Post subject: Re: Turners lack of faith in his signings...
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I agree. He just seems to drift in and out of games.
So foooking frustrating banghead

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RichyHpool wrote:
I wish CT would do another one of those 'ask chris' things on the official site because i will be asking him about his reasons in never playing Armann and freddie!



Let it not be said that the bloke doesn't listen....

http://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10326~1885511,00.html


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 Post subject: Re: Turners lack of faith in his signings...
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:36 pm 
Bamboo Kid wrote:
Five games unbeaten = CT critics go quiet.
Two defeats = sack him.


Who has said sack him in this thread? It's not going to happen so it would be a waste of energy to do so.

I was airing some frustrations about the blokes substitutions and the fact he clearly doesn't rate players he's only just signed. What was the point in signing them? How much has he seen of them before signing them? Have they improved our squad, yes Flinders, Austin, Hartley, Boyd, and Behan are regular starters but what about the other 8??

We have gone behind in 8 home games this season, we have replied with one single goal (Boyd at home Wycombe) when that has happened, we've lost the other seven without even coming back and scoring. That speaks volumes about his ability to change the course of a game.


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Mr I wrote:
RichyHpool wrote:
I wish CT would do another one of those 'ask chris' things on the official site because i will be asking him about his reasons in never playing Armann and freddie!



Let it not be said that the bloke doesn't listen....

http://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10326~1885511,00.html


Fair play to the guy, he puts his neck on the line and always has, PR wise he's one of the best managers we've had.

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 Post subject: Re: Turners lack of faith in his signings...
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These "ask Chris" sessions are all very well and credit to him for doing them.
They are inclined to be stage managed.
CT is breaking his neck to appear approachable and is desperate to win the fans over.
However the best measure of winning the fans over is bums on seats and, in that area, he is not having much success.
My advice is simple..........Go back to your other job and get a motivator/tactician in who can get the best out of our budget restricted squad. Win the fans over that way and maybe the missing throng will come back.

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PJ_Poolie wrote:

We have gone behind in 8 home games this season, we have replied with one single goal (Boyd at home Wycombe) when that has happened, we've lost the other seven without even coming back and scoring. That speaks volumes about his ability to change the course of a game.


precisely sadx sadx

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