Liddles not the first player to be quoted as saying that Wilson was a great manager. maybe he was not as bad as we all think he was.

didn't porter also say he was the best manager he's played under?

Could it be a sly dig at our current 'manager'? Possibly.

It may well be that he just enjoyed playing under wilson?

Reading between the lines like...

IS this the same Danny Wilson who has Swindon flying in League One?

I believe it is.

But dibble doesnt like him so no one else is allowed too either.

Porter said it as well last season before we went down there for the 1-0 win

Liddle says Wilson is one of the best managers he's played for. Given that he's only played first team for Wilson and Turner it does suggest that Wilson's only second best.

More importantly will Foley be on the bench on Saturday - we might need a last minute penalty

I'm confused here.
ADG - have you had a complete personality transformation in the last two weeks or is this just your scizhophrenic other half talking these days?
I may be wrong but I'm sure two weeks ago you would have bet on us winning the champions league if we were in it. Perhaps I'm missing some irony or humour.
Anyway - Liddle; does it really matter? Or is this just you feigning anger to get your point across? It's just what footballers say. He may have liked Wilson and played crap under him. Swindon may go up and Wilson may come back in for him, who knows. It doesnt really matter what he said about Wilson in the paper. It matters how we play against them...

ADG talks through his stomach.

Which is slightly higher up and on the opposite side to the orifice which you use.

I'm not biting Ripper.

Good decision...you don't know where he's been

Opposite side?? I'll have to claim a refund on my Gray's Anatomy.

Golden shower eh?

Why wasn't Nelse playing for Norwich? Is he injured?

yes against mk couple weeks ago

BWH, here is my theory. ADG is a Viking...no matter what you say or what precautions you take, he will break through the defences and come marauding back. The only answer is Danegeld. I'll be coming round with my bucket at the next home match. Give generously, you all.....

Ah I remember that now. That cheered me up watching him limp off.

yep me too the wanker

That he did, in a live interview without any prompting, he was asked who was the best manager he had played for, Danny Wilson was his answer.

It is obviously difficult for some people to get their heads around, but the players liked Danny Wilson.

ADG, could you please give a reasoned explanation as to why you seem to loathe Danny Wilson and his tenure? I will give you some reasons as to why, as a Hartlepool United fan, I find your distain towards everything DW, misdirected and somewhat strange, especially when you seem not to have a bad word to say about the current 'regime', despite some fairly obvious shortcomings in their track record both past and present, but that is another thread....
I'll tell you why I as a pools fan didnt mind DW, he took charge at the club, after one hell of a depressing season under Scott ......, and brought in some bright new talent, turned the team we all love into the best team to watch in league 2 which ultimately lead to promotion, the entertainment along the way was first class, outstanding the next season had its ups and downs, but we were once again established as a lg1 side. Up until the time he left last year, we were still a decent lg1 side, but more importantly an entertaining side to watch. I looked forward to going to games then, u knew it would be exciting, and we still won our fair share ( upwards of 40% of his games ). Cant understand why any pools fan would hold much against him. Its not as if he walked out on the club, he was shown the door

I agree. Some of the abuse shown towards Wilson was disgraceful as was the treatment of Newell.
The only 2 managers in recent years to get us promotion and they were treat as though they'd taken us down

In my eyes the wankers who posted such shite about wilson were wrong. Sad, frustrated people.

Danny Wilson wasn't probably the right man in the long term to manage Hartlepool United, that doesn't mean he did a bad job. I also think one of the biggest problems was that Danny Wilson didn't really want to be at Hartlepool United for the long term.

Because he didn't do a bad job and I'd struggle to find a reason to say why he did, we achieved 88 points in a season more than any other season in the history of the club then stayed up without ever being relegation threatened, and since he left the football has got worse. The results have also got worse, I like Chris Turner, I respect Chris Turner but Wilson has got more off as a football manager. Look at the respective CV's and look at the results. He also is a decent bloke, I've never heard anyone in football or who spoke to him while he was here say anything to suggest he isn't.

He didn't float my boat or engage with the fans but I struggle how you could argue with what I have just said, I'm sure some will try

anyone who signs players such as ALB, Budtz, Ali Gibb etc deserves a poke in the eye

Wilson, as with all managers, has his faults.....lots of them too.

Decent lower league manager, who made baffling decisions.

Yes I agree he had loads of faults but did he do a BAD job?

Just to clarify I'm glad he isn't still our manager but I see no reason for hostility towards him

ADG - I would much rather players said what they actually think than polish turd and say what they think YOU want to hear.

It's a shame that DW didn't want to be at Pools for the long term but he'll of had his reasons for wanting to leave. As for calling him names, that's up to you but I certainly do't class him as a c*** and nor is Nelson either.

I wasn't particularly enjoying it but I preferred it a hell of a lot more than what has been served up since he left.

One thing people seemed to forget really quickly is that under Wilson Pools went on the best unbeaten run in the club's history, where we hardly conceded a goal and walked over nearly every side we faced. Who remembers the "We are unbeatable" chant?

One of mates who is an Oxford fan looks out for Pools' results. His opinion is one of a fairly neutral outsider. Last season before Wilson left, my mate said he would love Wilson to manage Oxford, based on what he achieved at Pools - he inherited a completely dispirited side, got them to within a whisker of winning the League Two title, acheived mid-table consolidation in League One with little money spent, and looked to be doing the same last year before departing.

Someone mentioned earlier that Wilson never looked at Pools as a long term job, where I think Turner does. Of the two, Wilson is undoubtedly the better manager, but Turner is more passionate about the club. It's a right shame. Especially for my mate, who hates Swindon with a passion.

A few poor games and all of a sudden everyone thinks Danny Wilson wasn't so bad after all.
We needed a keeper, fullbacks, a decent centre half pairing and we've got them, we dont let in goals for fun and are hard to break down.
The problem is we dont have anyone near the quality of Joel Porter and Sweeney is crap in centre mid.

You say Wilson took over a dispirited side, which is completely true.

However this team had at least 3 or 4 championship quality players in it.

Porter, Nelson, Clark, Dimi, Brown.....way, way, way too good for that level. All Wilson had to do was put his arm around a few shoulders and we were as good as up.

There are a few things i will remember Wilson by...

Releasing Effion Williams
Signing ALB
Signing Budtz
Signing Ali Gibb
Signing Godwin Antwi (on loan)
Playing Antwi in front of Ben Clark
the Long Diagonal Ball
not signing a single full-back
only having 3 recognised defenders (all centre backs)
refusing to recognise Porter as our main striker for so long

now i'm sure there are plenty positives (mainly from the promotion season) however some of the ones listed above were bordering on criminal.


He did a job (promotion) then quickly got bored and wanted out, that became obvious as most of the players looked like they were just going through the motions.

All of the above is absolutely correct. As a Poolie who sees more away than home games the last few months of Wilson's tenure was truly awful. I was very pleased to see the back of him.

I just wanted to point out that Wilson was not all bad, and that unbeaten run/promotion/consolidation was soon forgotten by many.

The first crime on that list was absolutely the correct decision. As much as I love Effion.

He was a bit of a damned bounder though wasn't he

Every manager will make decisions and do things that not everyone agrees with but all I am basing my argument on is the actual football we watched under Wilson was better than we have witnessed at times of late. I really don't want Pools to turn into a long ball side. On the face of it Danny Wilson did a pretty decent job at Pools, results wise Chris Turner is currently worse than Keith Houchen.

I think the key points have been made - Wilson is a far better manager than Turner it's just a shame that he didn't want to be here for whatever reason.

Misterb - you do have a habit of talking a load of crap at times. Eifion Williams was rubbish and that is why he was released - he scored next to no goals in a quality side in Division Four. he went to Wrexham and they went down - and he scored even less goals.... What does that tell you ?

DW did sign some shite, but he didn't appear to get the backing that Turner got this pre season.

I still think it is a bit early to judge Turner this term, we will see how things lie mid november....

He might be a nice guy, he did a job for a couple of seasons but his last 2 seasons at Pools were poor, scored a cracker against Darlo but as PJ says it was the right time to release him....

if you are going to accuse people of talking shite then at least read their post properly first! I listed some of the things that reminded me of the danny wilson reign, not things he did wrong!

It might be an idea to work out exactly how many managers young Liddle has played under and then realise he said 'ONE of the best managers I have played under..'

Kind of takes the sting out of the comment.

I used to love working for some managers in my working life. I enjoyed working for them, their comfortable style of management, going to work was a joy, no pressure and they were happy with what we did, always.... doesn't mean they were good for the organisation though, does it ...?

Precisely, a lot of the players probably liked Newell....

As for Wilson, his record isn't that bad, but....here's the rub. he appeared to have the perennial problem with old pro's in management, he seemed to be interested in the plating side, but that was was it. Managers and players come and go, the mainstay of any club is the supporters and the man had absolutely no rapport with the fans at all. He came over to me as a sort of competent jobbing builder of football who was here to do a job, which he did, but gave the distinct impression he was sniffing the wind for the job he really wanted and it showed. the is sort of relationship can work for a while, but owners and fans want to see some sort of bond and it just wasn't there.
To go forward as a club, you need a leader and Scott and Wilson were totally estranged from the fans and I think this explains the strange muted atmosphere we now experience at the Vic. This all goes back to getting a manager, in the mould of Cooper, who you felt was hurting and believing just like you, failing that, a manager who could at least fake sincerity would have helped....!
It's got to be decision time soon for Turner, who this time around appears reluctant to push his case as he did in his previous tenure as manager, all very unsettling.