Am I missing something or has social housing changed it's definition?

All newly built developments have to include social housing (required by law, I believe), but it's not housing for druggies or a halfway-house, etc., but is intended for teachers, nurses, etc. i.e. those who have difficulty in being able to pay the full price of a house but whose skills are essential for the local community. Maybe all the residents of Bishop Cuthbert are in BUPA or pay tuition fees so they don't need such people?

Or have I got it wrong?

Ripper...

I can not believe how much you either just post on here for a laugh to get a bite, or secondly just completely generalise and steretype every single thing you talk about.

Firstly, renting a house doesnt make you a scutty scum bag, i rent, i work full time, i simply don't have the money to put down on a house, not many 'new families' do these days.

Secondly, i grew up in council houses in king oswy and in west view, my grandparents also did in the headland and in clavering.

Not a scum bag in the family, just people priced out of the buying market.

Which is what these houses are aimed at i reckon.

I put a one line post on here, and pop out for a few hours, and all hell breaks loose. After reading all of the 4 pages of replies it seems the majority of you agree with my finding the ridiculousness of the situation laughable.



Snowy sums up the situation perfectly for me.

We were unfortunate enough to have a family of chavs move in next to us, going upmarket from Thornaby to Billingham , luckily they overstretched themselves, and indeed the house was returned to the bank, and they moved out to a council flat next to the Town Centre instead. Everyone has their own tales to tell in these situations, you can't go bleating to the papers, crying for compensation at every little upset.

The stuck up gets want to give their fecking heads a shake, ffs who on earth do they think they are

This could be the REAL Reason Joel Porter buggered off! Maybe he had a tip-off.

So every person who rents does that then?

I'm not "on a wind-up" with regards thinking that it's wrong to change the plans for what is supposed to be built there as per my first points on the thread.

But I think that you know I am with regards the exaggerated generalisations that followed.



PS. The true Aryan race has the same colour hair as me, Uncle Adolf's default position to blonde was due to the higher numbers of blonde haired folk in Germany.

Just a reply, i actually live over the road from the proposed development and i am neither stuck up or an oik, i have lived in a terraced house and spent a small fortune doing it up, then selling it for a decent profit, we decided to move up here for our kids. We do not want any druggies or general scumbags up here, just as most of you dont want them living near you. Oh and by the way our MP(Ian Wright) lives about 400 yards from the development, but for some reason has kept quiet, i wonder why??

Also pools were utter shite last night.

Well said.

Everyone in the Cuthbert club keeps up with the Jones's. A couple of my mates live up there and i am sure all they talk about with each other is morgages and what job /car they are doing or buying. I cant speak for all the people up there but the ones I know remind me of Margo of the good life.

I refer the right honourable Mr Compo to my very first post on this thread.

Fair enough, couldnt be arsed reading all the thread. Its a case of not in my back yard like wind farms etc, these houses have to go somewhere and people will just have to bite the bullet

mr bosh, i appreciate the effort you have made to live in such a nice house, it is commendable.

But the presumption that anyone in social housing is a druggie is totally incorrect.

I tell you what i blame shameless for this, everyone now presumes that anyone on benefits is like that.

Couldn't disagree more.

These people spent a lot of money based upon information provided to them by Bellway and Hartlepool Borough Council via their Town Plan. Bellway and the council are now wanting to move the goalposts and it shouldn't be allowed.

I reckon our MP is also culpable in this in his role as housing minister when he bigged up his role in getting this money for the town, can he now explain what he knew about potential locations instead of saying it's got nowt whatsoever to do with him?

i'm gunna move up cuthbert now

I'll go on the benefits, get me couch in me front garden, have wild drug fuelled parties till 4am and shit in there plant pots just to prove them up market stuck up tossers they are right.

I bring the rave tape and the hot tub*

*kids paddling pool

don't forget your horse in the front bedroom

Bet that Bishop Cuthbert interfeared with alter boys as well.

Ripper I wonder if the council have considered the loss of revenue from these "super" properties once they are devalued by having all these scombags living next door...

did he have a facebook account as well

Iain Wright was a Junior Housing Minister, however, i'm sure thats not his post these days. I think he is now a Parliamentary under seretary for childrens and families etc...

He just might have.

Snobs Nuff said!!!!!

The way some people are talking on this thread, you'd think the Queen lived in Bishop Cuthbert.

Throston come West View!

No lawrence wont move from the town centre.

Nobody is been stuck up and a snob and i am all for affordable housing it will kick start the housing market which will give me more work and better prices(I'm a brickie).

But when these people bought there houses they will have done it off plan, they pick which plot they want so they can decide about houses around them or what is overlooking them so its not right to now change it. There is plenty of land still up there why not build them on that

A sensible post from somebody not consumed by jealousy.

Who is jealous?

From where I'm sat I'd say most of the folk who are laughing about it and saying it serves them right.

I went to view a property in cuthbert and i wasn't impressed, i'm more than content where I live.

Cheers though.

I looked at a few round there when we moved house a few years ago and likewise I wasn't impressed. In fact I wouldn't live there if you paid me to as I think the whole estate is a bit pokey. But it doesn't mean that whats happening to those who do live there is right or funny.

I've never claimed it's funny or right, but i take offence at the remarks that all people in council houses / rented houses or druggy scumbags.

And the attitude of that stuck up rarf in the mail is shocking too.

I had a new detatched house there and lived in it for a year and hated every minute of it but i still think its wrong what they are gonna do

Did you build it like!!

You must be joking i would never live in a house ive built

I doubt very much I would ever buy a new house, apart from not being able to afford it, the standards they are built to are sh*te, and you never know what is going to be built nearby.
I would much rather buy a well established, well built older house, in an area without any available building land nearby, saves all this hassle.

I reckon people in areas like this are going to have to get use to the phrase "affordable housing" as in the current economic climate this kind of housing will appear in a lot of places over the next few years.

The phrase "affordable housing" is complete left wing spinny twaddle. All housing is affordable to somebody, that's one of the benefits of a free market economy as prices are set by what people can afford to pay.

The leftie doils just use the phrase to try and justify their social engineering agenda.

there are far to many left wing morons in this town with backwards left wing opinions, some places need to remain desirable, decent, places to live and bishop cuthbert is one of them. The grant should be spent elsewhere

nimbys

Look what you've started billy!

I've got the opposite problem. I buy a nice decrepit looking house, falling down around my ears, masses of street-cred, and what happens? They're only going to build some poncy new flats over the road for up-and-coming young professionals.

Easington Road ?

This must be what it's like to be PoK, start a thread, and stand back and watch the explosion.

Theres nothing wrong with having the desire to better yourself and if that means you find a way to move to a better area like Bishop Cuthbert or West Park then great. To want an improved lifestyle for you and your family is perfectly natural and to achieve it is to be applauded. I grew up in a poor, even by Hartlepool standards, family. My overriding ambition was to have my kids have a different and yes much better lifestyle. I achieved that and I apologise to no one for it. I am not alone in this in fact a lot of the guys on here have done likewise. I know a lot of the lads on here who now live in nice houses grew up in the same raggy arsed way I did.

Now the other side of the coin is that whats good for the goose is good for the gander. If a not so well off family of today can aspire to do likewise even if it is on a buy to let basis then so what? What right does any of those/us upwardly mobile have the right to pull the ladder up after us? You can't reasonably suggest that just because someone lives in a poor area they are less important that you or I. They have exactly the same right to opportunity for betterment as we have.

To have the gall to suggest that just because a family wants to move from a poor area to a good is inherrently wrong, is hypocritism in the extreme. Those of us who have escaped the slums should be grateful we were blessed with the intelligence to achieve in terms of career and earnings, we should also have the humility to congratulate those who earn or are given the chance to do likewise.