Am I the only one who thinks this situation is as funny as fook.

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/Hu ... 5706493.jp

I read it in Mail and couldnt really understand what the fuck they were on about. In a nutshell whats it all about?

Sort of.

When I first read it I laughed more than I had done since darlow had 10 points deducted.

But the more I think about it it's a bit shyte.

Regardless of the fact that a lot of dicks and pretentious snobs live (beyond their means) at Bishop Cuthbert not everbody who lives there is like that. And if our bent council proposed sticking a load of chavs, druggies, thieves and general layabouts over the road from me I'd be furious, and that'd be before I even considered the financial implications on house values and the like. You can bet your bottom dollar that none of the councillors responsible for this live anywhere near there. And I notice that our horrible cretin of an MP is saying that it's all down to the council and nowt to do with him even though he's been banging on for months how he's so great for getting big grants from the government to provide this kind of housing in the town.

Just read it there, poor bastads fear their homes may be devalued by "oiks" coming to live close to them..

FFS they're only 5 minutes away from throston/west view...

Serves the jumped up bastads right.. LØL

Whats wrong with Throston you jumped up oik

i think its great idea build the houses

Whether it's funny or not though it's fundamentally wrong.

These people bought houses based on the planning permissions and town plans in place at that time for the area. To change this so radically in a relatively short period of time shouldn't be allowed and if they've been mis-sold their properties by Bellway they should consider a class action against Bellway for compensation.

totally agree feck em

So what if they did things change.. I for one think its hilarious..
They're just a bunch of stuck up kuntz who deserve something like this."Oh we can't have all those normal people living near us."

What a load of shitte.. Should've bought a proper posh house in West Park if they where that bothered (or couldn't they afford one) ...

They're hardly going to build a ghetto are they. These houses will probably be shared ownership with decent hardworking people living in them ..

Get them built I say .. We've far to many brickies on the dole as it is and the work will be most welcomed...

They'll get over it

Pierrepoint is bones new mush verbal

Blimey, stop being so ... Labour.

You'd do exactly the same. What if the council moved the Rowbothams in your street or even next door to you? By your reckoning you'd invite them round for tea and biscuits.

so just because i live in bishop cuthbert i'm a jumped up bastard,and it serves me right, Why does it serve me right? all we've done is save and work hard for years to live in a nice area for our family to live in . This is just another quick rich scheme from bellways who have lied to all of us when we were buying our homes and as for hartlepool council this just somes them up couldn't give a shit.

and i reckon we'll win 4-1 tonight

yes i would and i,d say OY DONT START IN MY STREET

Can't see anything funny myself. I would hate to think a bunch of lower class yobs would move into this village.

Who's to say building these houses will bring down your area?Did Bellway actually say that nothing would ever be built near you? Did you get it writing? How many of your plush house are rented in the private sector already.. You'll be surprised how many are. I know several that are definitely rented out. Just because the houses to be built will be "affordable" / shared ownership doesn't mean that the people in them are any less of a person than you...

Tonight I'll go for the same score we played them at the Vic when I was on a rig 8-1

why are they stuck up?

these people are spending a hell of a lot of money on a house and why should they all of a sudden change the plans and insted of being overlooked by 30 nice houses they are gonna cram 50 smaller ones there that are rented out to maybe God forbid Peter Owens

Its not on really

Ive just got it

"As the crowd backed the suggestion, Mr Hope replied: "It is something that has been thought about, possibly under the Trades Description Act."

That Mr Hope clearly knows nothing whatsoever about the trade descriptions act
It clearly has not been thought about very much.

Just becasue the houses are affordable doesn't mean the likes of Peter Owens would be inhabiting them. Why are they doing this..maybe its because they can't sell the welcome to the board big ones anymore?

Finally I know you live in near Nottingham these days MrI but "Bishop Cuthbert" is not a village its in Hartlepool for Christ sake five minutes walk away from West View and Throston.. They need to grow up

I haven't let a dumb bastad in on your joke

Mr Pierrepoint, you live at Seaton don't you?

Would it be hilariously funny if a shed load of scruffy gypos parked their caravans up near your house and decided they were staying there for the long term?

Oh how the hard working folk on Bishop Cuthbert might laugh at your plight if it happened.

But my whole point is just because the houses are smaller doesn't mean to say they'll be full or scruffs does it ? Or am I missing something?

Yes, I think you are.

Is there a house big enough in Bishop Cuthbert for Fatty Owens?

What then.. I only got the truncated version here so I'm making my judgement on that. So I'm assuming that the definition of affordable housing is housing within reach of the normal average working man in Hartlepool..

Also I'm making a judgement on stuck up snobs who thinks anyone who comes from a council house is a low life scruff .

More like Bishop 'lovely lovely person' bert

Probably the majority of posters here were brought up in council housing at one time or another. So we know all council tenants are not scruffs. But what's wrong with working hard and wanting a nice house in a nice area away from the shyte that fill the columns of Not-so Night Mail?

Nothing Mr Atweasle absolutley nothing but who's saying that these lowlifes will gravitate to these houses? I personally don't think they would.
Like I say I don't know the full story so maybe I shouldn't be commenting but the one thing that DOES get my back up is snobbery.

Do these people know what it going to take for their children to get a house?..Maybe they'll be glad of these affordable houses in a few years time.

It was the same on the Fens, we let all these low life's in from Owton Manor and then before we knew what was going on, we had fun.....

Them birds from Torquay Avenue were filthy....

Suddenly you could go in the Rossmere without getting filled in and drink at 15.

Ask Mr Parmo what it can be like living next door to tenants as opposed to home owners and also remember that these rent a house bods will have their couch on the front drive given the first sight of sunshine while they swig their white lightning and 8 Ace.

Maybe Bellways could by up 50 derelict street / terraced houses do them up and give them back to the council to turn into social/affordable housing ?

Look on the bright side there wont be far to go for your smack and knock off stuff.

It all depends what end of "affordable housing" range they're going to be . Surely the council won't shove anyone in them if only to protect their investment.. I thought the whole idea of this affordable housing was so people could buy a share in the house rather than just renting or am I mistaken?

BTW As I said I know of several houses in Bishop Cuthbert that are already rented out..

Anyway I 've had enough of this I'm going back to being my normal Daily Mail reading self..

I know, why don't we just kill all the people who need affordable housing? Then all the smashing people who live on good estates can sleep easy in their beds, safe in the knowledge that the price of their lovely houses will never again be affected by poor people moving into the neighbourhood.

Is that you Ripper?

I reckon that's a fantastic idea but unfortunately I don't think we'll ever manage to get it actioned.

Why don't we just kill all the people who need affordable housing?

Great idea when pools are away we can have public hangings. Stonning and general
mayhem.

7 O'clock starts, or would that be a bit early?

All I can say is remember your oppostion to affordable housing when you're stuck with Mr Ripper jnr, Mrs Ripper jnr and Child in 25 to 30 years time..

Mouldy for Home Secretary !!!!!

Would that be affordable home secretary Mri

Here's the way it is, most of the houses will be of the half buy, half rent deal, so the houses will in fact be owned by the occupier at a reasonable and affordable price. The reason there'll be more, is because they'll obviously be smaller. The fly in the ointment is that 15 of the houses will be rented and you have to ask why they just couldn't have been built anywhere else. The answer is that the government now insist on mixed developments of private and social housing, the usual dogma driven social engineering. The only good thing is they've got a responsible landlord, but the landlord won't be responsible for the tenants personality.

they'll all be new houses, they will look ok and you'll be surprised just by what exactly affordable means - people who want to buy these houses will be the type of people who used to buy terraced houses as a starter home years ago before they went stupidly priced and so on - yes there may be issues, but they'll be thin on the ground and people really should get off their delusions of granduer. The nouveau riche of New Throston - bishop wotsit my arse - should stop being so prissy and look at the bigger picture.

Bit fucking silly really

Most of the trouble with the housing market was caused by people moving up the housing ladder by getting inflated prices for their original homes. The result is that for the first time, even people with good jobs can't afford mortgages and these are the people buying the affordable homes. Greed has buggered up the market and some of thoe with their big houses will find that their houses are the banks houses and they'll be out on their arse if they lose their job ...looking for somewhere to rent.

planning rules usually dictate that a percentage of affordable housing is made available whenever a residential development is consented. It's standard and another way for the Government/local authority to tick a box/reach a target.

Oh and my brother lives in one of the roads mentioned

Housing Hartlepool have the powers to evict people for such things as having a messy garden so there won't be any anti-social problems from tenants. If there is they'll be straight out. It's the private landlords who own houses in the terraced town centre streets who create the problems.

As for the standard of houses, i've spent at least 20 grand on mine since i moved in, in 2005. How many up there can say that?

Like Mutley said it's laughable the way they are going on. Someone even mentioning "solicitors" and "the trades descriptions act" in the mail

It's Bishop Cuthbert not Darras Hall or Wynyard

Some of them pompous gets need to remember where they come from and who they are and what they do for a living before they start acting like some millionaire landowner with 90 acres of land.

I'm from Throston and lived in Bishop Cuthbert for a while.....does that make me a stuck up scumbag oik...lol...

Anyway, affordable housing for all has to be built and when I first lived in Norwich a similar scheme went ahead on a new estate. It did not devalue the area and brought good affordable homes to decent people.

Just because you live in a shiny new home doesn't make you a class above everyone, it means you've got somewhere ok to live.

I just don't understand the need for public outcry in a pub car park for this...

I'm just reading the rest of this thread and will catch up later....