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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:29 pm 
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rolfl rolfl rolfl rolfl

Although im not sure about which clubs are interested but doesnt it just show he is good enough for us if Championship teams and Sctottish premiere legue are wanting him. why would we let him go for free?


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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
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I have a feeling he won't be leaving for free like.

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I have a feeling he will be leaving shortly though so we can bring in another midfielder. Also is this the reason why Turner took up the option of the extra year knowing he was on his way out for the hope of the extra transfer funds? If so this is good business sense.


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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
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He's under 23 so extra year or not, Jones couldnt sod off for nothing cos of the bosman ruling.

Who knows the ins and outs of the full thing but it is a shame as i'd prefer us to get another midfielder to play with jones not instead of.

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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
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And what Chris Turner says is gospel rolfl

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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
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He's under 23 so extra year or not, Jones couldnt sod off for nothing cos of the bosman ruling.

Who knows the ins and outs of the full thing but it is a shame as i'd prefer us to get another midfielder to play with jones not instead of.


He couldn't go for nothing.

If you can't agree a fee with the other club it's set by a tribunal. We wouldn't get much because it takes into account development of the player and we've only had him for a year.

Turner should be assuring him that he is part of his plans, if he isn't I question what the fook is going on at our club.


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He can go for nothing if we agree he can.

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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
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He can go for nothing if we agree he can.


If we did that I'd question what the fook is going on X1000!!

Why would we do that!!!??


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Wage bill? Someone else lined up in the mould of Healey sctatchinghead

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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:15 pm 
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Wage bill? Someone else lined up in the mould of Healey sctatchinghead


Well if we needed to get players off the wage bill would it not make sense to get rid of the ones who aren't good enough?

As I said if that happened you'd have to question the decision making at our club and what the fook is going on.


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Depends if he is one of the highest earners, come on, Mackay, Foley and Power won't be on much, any maybe just maybe turner doesn't rate him.

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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
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Depends if he is one of the highest earners, come on, Mackay, Foley and Power won't be on much, any maybe just maybe turner doesn't rate him.


Mackay and Foley shouldn't be on anything they aren't good enough. Sorry, they just aren't and never will be. I don't care what they are on I bet combined it won't be a kick in the bollocks off what Jones is on.

You'd have to question Turner if he was willing to let a very promising player leave for nothing to free up wages for a 'big signing'. Hopefully their isn't as much in this has been made out because if their is I'm worried about where we are going this season.


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Depends if he is one of the highest earners, come on, Mackay, Foley and Power won't be on much, any maybe just maybe turner doesn't rate him.


Surely Mackay and Foley could of been released and there wages could of gone towards a decent player. Also if Turner rates the three named above and not Jones there is something wrong there.


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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
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Of course there is but he sees him everyday in training, maybe its an attitude thing I don't know. Maybe it will never come out, hopefully it wont and Jones will still be here next season.

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From what ive been told I cant see him been here at the end of next week.


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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
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i would be highly surprised if we let him go for free. a payment of say £50,000 is the bare minimum we should want, more likely though it should be over £100,000 however i doubt we will get it.

If it is a FACT that we are willing to get him go then we must be doing so knowing that someone better is due to join.

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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
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I agree. I think turner has not yet played his last card.

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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
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All you need to know is that its true.

I think you should name your sourse or it becomes a rumour.


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bluesmicky wrote:
Poolie_k wrote:
All you need to know is that its true.

I think you should name your sourse or it becomes a rumour.


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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
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bluesmicky wrote:
Poolie_k wrote:
All you need to know is that its true.

I think you should name your sourse or it becomes a rumour.


With the amount of peoples backs I got up before and the grief I got im happy for it to go down as a rumour than say the word fact again.


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Grave wrote:
bluesmicky wrote:
Poolie_k wrote:
All you need to know is that its true.

I think you should name your sourse or it becomes a rumour.


sctatchinghead


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if i was a betting man id have money on turner being the media manipulator rather than jones.

him and his cronies squeal about stuff coming out on the internet, but 9 times out of 10 its them who are leaking it.

wish he was as good at football management as he is at p.r.


Poolie_k is Turner? :shock: :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
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Good work Poolie K :laugh:

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Mr Ripper wrote:
chip fireball wrote:
if i was a betting man id have money on turner being the media manipulator rather than jones.

him and his cronies squeal about stuff coming out on the internet, but 9 times out of 10 its them who are leaking it.

wish he was as good at football management as he is at p.r.


Poolie_k is Turner? :shock: :laugh:
No its poolie-k en hodcroft rolfl


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Thanks poolie-k for good info it seems rather than the rubbish that sometimes comes on here :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
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chip fireball wrote:
plenty of know nothing halfwits dissed the lad on this thread.

some are very slow to make their apologies.

probably the only decent thread of the last week as well.

who are you to call people no nothing half wits when you know very little about most things you comment on?

he claimed a transfer requested HAD been made and HAD been accepted, which wasnt true at the time.

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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:55 pm 
This thread's going to descend into analysis of every word used.

for that reason, I'm out.

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This thread's going to descend into analysis of every word used.

for that reason, I'm out.

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:laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
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chip fireball wrote:
plenty of know nothing halfwits dissed the lad on this thread.

some are very slow to make their apologies.

probably the only decent thread of the last week as well.


You're wasting your time Chip. Your first post on this thread made me think you'd heard something similar (if not exactly the same). Perhaps you should take a leaf out of dribble's book and abandon subtlety!

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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
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misterb2001 wrote:
chip fireball wrote:
plenty of know nothing halfwits dissed the lad on this thread.

some are very slow to make their apologies.

probably the only decent thread of the last week as well.

who are you to call people no nothing half wits when you know very little about most things you comment on?

he claimed a transfer requested HAD been made and HAD been accepted, which wasnt true at the time.


This was true at the time unless you are saying I can see the future?


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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
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Sorry just dont appreciate all the grief that he give me although I was right and he still finds it hard to accept.


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if he is not on the pfa list he isnt officially on the transfer list. Thats my argument. And yes i will apologise if it makes you feel better

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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
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Must have somebody in mind to bring in, Surely?


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 Post subject: Re: Ritchie Jones
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Obviously he realises that he needs a quality midfielder with the attempted Healy signing hopefully he will have one lined up as well as a much needed left back.


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Now on the offical site about Jones handing in a transfer request


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Me thinks the lad needs to knuckle down and prove his worth rather than running away from a challenge.

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it still looks like he is running at the first sign of trouble rather than trying to prove turner wrong. Who knows what has really gone on but it does give us scope to bring someone else in to balance out the midfield properly. Poolie_k my humblest apologies sir a pint will be in the offering at the next pools match for you as way of an apology.

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Yep, from the outside this purely looks like Jones has spat his dummy out over some competition (or has been tapped up by someone else). Can't see how this is Turner's fault at all.

Obviously Jones thinks he's too good for us. Fine by me, as long as we get a fee.


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It could be that Hodcroft has said to CT that he needs to offload as well as recruit, especially in central midfield.

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I agree with CT in that we need some quality in our midfield. Although Jones looked a good prospect when he arrived he didn't maintain it throughout the season - to be honest I don't think he is as good as he perhaps thinks he is. Just because you have come from Manure this doesn't automaticially guarantee you a place in our starting line-up. If he wants to go, then so be it...


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theres none so blind as those who wont see. :roll:


turner has already lied to the mail about the jones saga, and yet you still prefer his version of events.

i give up.


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I don't want to see any more midfield players come through the door until at least two defenders join. If they do I'll throw this brand new laptop at the fcking wall.

Has anyone got a list of players that Turner has signed either on loan or permanently since he took over? I reckon it must be around about 12-15. I reckon about 3 of them are defenders which given the defensive record he inherited is very very worrying.

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I agree with CT in that we need some quality in our midfield. Although Jones looked a good prospect when he arrived he didn't maintain it throughout the season - to be honest I don't think he is as good as he perhaps thinks he is. Just because you have come from Manure this doesn't automaticially guarantee you a place in our starting line-up. If he wants to go, then so be it...


list all the 21 year olds in their first full season that come in and are superb consistently for an entire season ? even james brown had dips in form in his first season.

because he came from man utd some people expected him to be consistently brilliant.

kid is still learning his craft and wasnt helped by tubbs playing him as a winger, which he definitely isnt.

as previously stated he got through 40 odd games last season, thats an awful lot for a lad his age. deffo had potential imho, certainly more than quite a few on the books.

So its ok to say that about Jones, but not about Liddle, double standards creeping in Mr Fireball?

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chip fireball wrote:
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I agree with CT in that we need some quality in our midfield. Although Jones looked a good prospect when he arrived he didn't maintain it throughout the season - to be honest I don't think he is as good as he perhaps thinks he is. Just because you have come from Manure this doesn't automaticially guarantee you a place in our starting line-up. If he wants to go, then so be it...


list all the 21 year olds in their first full season that come in and are superb consistently for an entire season ? even james brown had dips in form in his first season.

because he came from man utd some people expected him to be consistently brilliant.

kid is still learning his craft and wasnt helped by tubbs playing him as a winger, which he definitely isnt.

as previously stated he got through 40 odd games last season, thats an awful lot for a lad his age. deffo had potential imho, certainly more than quite a few on the books.

So its ok to say that about Jones, but not about Liddle, double standards creeping in Mr Fireball?


The difference being that Liddle has underperformed pretty much every week for two years whilst Jones has played well regularly for the last year. :roll:

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Has anyone got a list of players that Turner has signed either on loan or permanently since he took over? I reckon it must be around about 12-15. I reckon about 3 of them are defenders which given the defensive record he inherited is very very worrying.


I make it 13, though 6 of them came and went

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3 defenders :roll: banghead banghead

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"I've read things on the internet about the situation.

"But there's no player in this squad on the transfer list.

"There's nothing more we're going to say about it.

"I will be having a discussion with Ritchie in due course."


Now, I'm usually a big Turner fan, but for him to vehemently deny Jones was rumoured to have have handed in a request, and then for the Club to announce on the website that Jones has handed in a request - that seems quite stupid to me. confised

I think it suggests that Turner may have been trying to deflect attention away from the rumour.


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