Ritchie Jones

Poolie_k · **Joined:** Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:37 pm **Posts:** 414

Tax Paying Poolie wrote:

mr maker wrote:

http://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10326~1732517,00.html
Say no more, not even a run out against York for Ritchie Jones.
So thats just over half a game so far in total. He is on his way out by the looks of it.
The club are keeping us all in the dark over this when they promised to have an open relationship with the fans.

He's on the bench so I don't think that necessarily equates to 'on his way out'

As for your last comment- stpid

Unless something changes he is on his way out transfer request accepted FACT.

mr maker · **Joined:** Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:41 pm **Posts:** 14

Tax Paying Poolie wrote:

mr maker wrote:

http://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10326~1732517,00.html
Say no more, not even a run out against York for Ritchie Jones.
So thats just over half a game so far in total. He is on his way out by the looks of it.
The club are keeping us all in the dark over this when they promised to have an open relationship with the fans.

He's on the bench so I don't think that necessarily equates to 'on his way out'

As for your last comment- stpid

The Manager has stated that all players need minutes on the pitch and that the result is not the priority. If Jones is in his plans he is not getting shared time on the pitch.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

He put FACT in capitals guys this is true.

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:37 pm

mr maker wrote:

Tax Paying Poolie wrote:

mr maker wrote:

http://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10326~1732517,00.html
Say no more, not even a run out against York for Ritchie Jones.
So thats just over half a game so far in total. He is on his way out by the looks of it.
The club are keeping us all in the dark over this when they promised to have an open relationship with the fans.

He's on the bench so I don't think that necessarily equates to 'on his way out'

As for your last comment- stpid

The Manager has stated that all players need minutes on the pitch and that the result is not the priority. If Jones is in his plans he is not getting shared time on the pitch.

He has featured in every pre season game.....

Poolie_k · **Joined:** Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:37 pm **Posts:** 414

I dont really care if you dont think its true your the one that will look like a wanker when its released.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Who will look like a wanker?

And why will they?

No one's said your lying here.

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:45 pm

Poolie_k wrote:

I dont really care if you dont think its true your the one that will look like a w**ker when its released.

Any need?

I'm sure their is something in it just don't be so adamant you know the facts. Here's my guess, Jones has seen Turner's comments about Healy and us needing that type midfielder and he has some concerns about his own future.

He should just get his head down if that's the case he's a good enough player to be a regular if he does that.

Poolie_k · **Joined:** Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:37 pm **Posts:** 414

Just seems like people are burrying their heads in the sand.

Poolie_k · **Joined:** Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:37 pm **Posts:** 414

PJ_Poolie wrote:

Poolie_k wrote:

I dont really care if you dont think its true your the one that will look like a w**ker when its released.

Any need?

I'm sure their is something in it just don't be so adamant you know the facts. Here's my guess, Jones has seen Turner's comments about Healy and us needing that type midfielder and he has some concerns about his own future.

He should just get his head down if that's the case he's a good enough player to be a regular if he does that.

Thats the thing i do know the facts thats what ive been saying but people just taking the piss. Everything I have posted on this matter is fact. I only posted them to see what other peoples reactions were on the subject but they seem more bothered I aint trying to get peoples backs up or anything although some of my posts do look like it. I just wanted to know other peoples opinions.

Kolley Kibber · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:52 pm

Poolie_k wrote:

PJ_Poolie wrote:

Poolie_k wrote:

I dont really care if you dont think its true your the one that will look like a w**ker when its released.

Any need?

I'm sure their is something in it just don't be so adamant you know the facts. Here's my guess, Jones has seen Turner's comments about Healy and us needing that type midfielder and he has some concerns about his own future.

He should just get his head down if that's the case he's a good enough player to be a regular if he does that.

Thats the thing i do know the facts thats what ive been saying but people just taking the piss. Everything I have posted on this matter is fact. I only posted them to see what other peoples reactions were on the subject but they seem more bothered I aint trying to get peoples backs up or anything although some of my posts do look like it. I just wanted to know other peoples opinions.

Do you know the facts though? I've spoken to other people who have stated you're blowing what has happened out of all proportion.

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:52 pm

Poolie_k wrote:

PJ_Poolie wrote:

Poolie_k wrote:

I dont really care if you dont think its true your the one that will look like a w**ker when its released.

Any need?

I'm sure their is something in it just don't be so adamant you know the facts. Here's my guess, Jones has seen Turner's comments about Healy and us needing that type midfielder and he has some concerns about his own future.

He should just get his head down if that's the case he's a good enough player to be a regular if he does that.

Thats the thing i do know the facts thats what ive been saying but people just taking the piss. Everything I have posted on this matter is fact. I only posted them to see what other peoples reactions were on the subject but they seem more bothered I aint trying to get peoples backs up or anything although some of my posts do look like it. I just wanted to know other peoples opinions.

Read that again and then you might release why people are rubbing you up the wrong way....

It's not a matter fact is something you've been told, unless it's from the horses mouth but if it is fact just fooking tell people how you know it is!!

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:55 pm

look at it from our point of view poolie_k. You are claiming it a fact without no evidence. Its not surprising people dont believe you.

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:58 pm

misterb2001 wrote:

look at it from our point of view poolie_k. You are claiming it a fact without no evidence. Its not surprising people dont believe you.

BUT - it is obviously true as he used the word "FACT"! We have established that a statement cannot be doubted in such circumstances.

Poolie_k · **Joined:** Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:37 pm **Posts:** 414

Yea I understand that but I hav been asked not to disclose where the information has come from and I know they read these boards and I would rather take shit of people that I dont know than upset people or piss people off that i do know. Hope that makes sense to you.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:02 pm

well tell who ever told you it to shut their fucking mouth and stop spreading shit the 'lovely lovely person'

Poolie_k · **Joined:** Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:37 pm **Posts:** 414

ok i cant be bothered to argue to be honest im sure we will find out in the next couple of days or so.

HUFC Poolie · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:11 pm

HUFC Poolie · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:12 pm

Poolie_k wrote:

ok i cant be bothered to argue to be honest im sure we will find out in the next couple of days or so.

Find out?

i thought it was 100% nailed on

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:16 pm

chip i wouldnt be too bothered if it were true. We need a tough tackling midfielder in there. Jones is a half decent player but is not what we desperately need at this point in time

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:21 pm

misterb2001 wrote:

chip i wouldnt be too bothered if it were true. We need a tough tackling midfielder in there. Jones is a half decent player but is not what we desperately need at this point in time

That is a very short term view to have.

Jones is already a good player, he could develop in to a really excellent one we get a lot of money for in the future he has all the attributes. It would be criminal to let him go at the age of 22 after one promising season.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:25 pm

PJ_Poolie wrote:

misterb2001 wrote:

chip i wouldnt be too bothered if it were true. We need a tough tackling midfielder in there. Jones is a half decent player but is not what we desperately need at this point in time

That is a very short term view to have.

Jones is already a good player, he could develop in to a really excellent one we get a lot of money for in the future he has all the attributes. It would be criminal to let him go at the age of 22 after one promising season.

thats assuming he progresses at all. Some players dont.

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:26 pm

PJ_Poolie wrote:

misterb2001 wrote:

chip i wouldnt be too bothered if it were true. We need a tough tackling midfielder in there. Jones is a half decent player but is not what we desperately need at this point in time

That is a very short term view to have.

Jones is already a good player, he could develop in to a really excellent one we get a lot of money for in the future he has all the attributes. It would be criminal to let him go at the age of 22 after one promising season.

Got to agree with this. I would also say that Jones is pretty 'tough tackling' imo. He doesnt seem shirk challenges judging by last season. If it turns out to be true that Jones is/was happy here but turner wants rid then CT can go feck himself. Obviously nothing has been confirmed yet but these rumours usually have some truth and I got to admit that I believe Poolie K for some reason. sadx

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:28 pm

misterb2001 wrote:

PJ_Poolie wrote:

misterb2001 wrote:

chip i wouldnt be too bothered if it were true. We need a tough tackling midfielder in there. Jones is a half decent player but is not what we desperately need at this point in time

That is a very short term view to have.

Jones is already a good player, he could develop in to a really excellent one we get a lot of money for in the future he has all the attributes. It would be criminal to let him go at the age of 22 after one promising season.

thats assuming he progresses at all. Some players dont.

Seen as I used the word 'could' I don't think I made any assumptions.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:30 pm

why are people assuming turner doesnt want to keep jones? Jones is the one who has apparently asked to leave.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:00 pm

let me elaborate more instead of just using smilies eh? We have 3 potentially VERY good central midfielders, Sweeney, Liddle & Jones. The problem being that no combination of the 3 works consistently (maybe Turner should go back to his 3-5-2 formation and play all 3, that may work.)

In mine and many others opinion, we need a holding midfielder alongside one of them for it to work.

My personal preference would be Sweeney alongside a.n. other as Sweeney has proved he can get several goals at this level. That would give a much more balanced midfield compared to the one we have now.

That would leave both Jones & Liddle as squad players.

Yes we need a solid defence, but we also need a midfield which doesn't get over-run, which at present is.

Poolie_k · **Joined:** Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:37 pm **Posts:** 414

Could Jones not play the holding midfielder he can pick a pass out and doesnt bottle any tackles. At least it has to be worth a try even if its just pre season.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:22 pm

Poolie_k wrote:

Could Jones not play the holding midfielder he can pick a pass out and doesnt bottle any tackles. At least it has to be worth a try even if its just pre season.

i seen him bottle plenty of tackles last season, maybe with time and coaching he could be moulded into that style however

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:35 pm

chip fireball wrote:

you are defeating your own argument now.

either way i lost interest when you mentioned gary liddle and very good midfield player in the same breath.

oh do grow up

hufc 4eva · **Joined:** Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:07 am **Posts:** 67

To to totally honest i wouldnt mind too much if it was true and Jones wanted to leave as yes he was good last season but it wasnt hard to be our best midfielder last season and he only scored 2 goals in about 30 odd games and i cant remember that many assists either??
If he wants out then surely we are better to let him leave as his heart will not be in it and if someone is wanting to leave this early in the season then thats shows that he is obviously is not committed for the season ahead. How can things change so much from last season where he signed his new contract? if it was Turner freezing him out of the set up then surely it would Turner putting him up for sale and trying to get some money for a player that is not wanted at a club and it wouldnt be Jones asking for a transfer?? How can people say Turner has frozen him out when he played majority of games last season and hasnt been as involed in pre season (Turner may just be trying out different people in midfield) which is what friendlies are about!!
I think if we can sell Jones for a fee and get a hard tackling player who will not be afraid to bollock other players who are not putting it in and make opposition players fear us i would be quite happy as i feel Jones is similar to sweeney and liddle so exchanging him for a hard tackling midfielder would improve the side no end!!

I think, if a player wants to leave a club then let him leave as he will not be willing to give 100% at a club he doesnt want to be at!!!

SELL HIM AND GET A HARD MAN IN~!!!!!!

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:18 pm

chip fireball wrote:

anyone else wanna jump on the get a hard man in bandwagon ?

it will make our woefully slow centre halves quicker, our goalkeeping better,lead to us scoring goals away from home, and solve the long term left back problem after all. :roll:

I admit it would be nice to have some 'character' in the middle especially for away games but we need QUALITY first and foremost, someone who can control a game.

A bit of pace would be nice too.

hufc 4eva · **Joined:** Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:07 am **Posts:** 67

we need a left back first of all. But a midfield play maker (colin healy) would be perfect and we were unfortunate not to get him and must praise turner for trying his hardest to get healy as he would be a class act in league 1!!

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

Grave wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

anyone else wanna jump on the get a hard man in bandwagon ?

it will make our woefully slow centre halves quicker, our goalkeeping better,lead to us scoring goals away from home, and solve the long term left back problem after all. :roll:

I admit it would be nice to have some 'character' in the middle especially for away games but we need QUALITY first and foremost, someone who can control a game.

A bit of pace would be nice too.

The only quality we had/have is Joel Porter and James Brown, ones fooked off and the others injured.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

chip fireball wrote:

you are defeating your own argument now.

either way i lost interest when you mentioned gary liddle and very good midfield player in the same breath.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:06 pm

Poolie_k wrote:

This is true he handed it in a day or two ago not sure if it has been accepted but he hs requested a move.

Very reliable source and FACT.

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/hufc/Turner-denies-Jones-transfer-request.5493696.jp

a FACT eh?

Cheb

BillinghamPoolie · **Posted:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:12 pm

"I've read things on the internet about the situation.

"But there's no player in this squad on the transfer list.

"There's nothing more we're going to say about it.

"I will be having a discussion with Ritchie in due course."

poolie_k stpid

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

misterb2001 wrote:

Poolie_k wrote:

This is true he handed it in a day or two ago not sure if it has been accepted but he hs requested a move.

Very reliable source and FACT.

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/hufc/Turner-denies-Jones-transfer-request.5493696.jp

a FACT eh?

Cheb

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:16 pm

Tax Paying Poolie wrote:

misterb2001 wrote:

Poolie_k wrote:

This is true he handed it in a day or two ago not sure if it has been accepted but he hs requested a move.

Very reliable source and FACT.

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/hufc/Turner-denies-Jones-transfer-request.5493696.jp

a FACT eh?

Cheb

What?

Hawklord · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:27 pm **Posts:** 3116

Not wishing to pour oil on the flames but the language used by Turner seems to point to some kind of differences between them. "Not to me at the moment, no" and "I will be having a discussion with Ritchie in due course."
Turner doesn't deny anything emphatically - he could have said 'there's nothing in the rumours whatsoever', an interesting word he used was 'moment'.

If there were any truth in the rumour I'd find it hard to believe that Jones (or at least his agent) did not have something lined up, otherwise he would be risking his career / wages.

On another note, having met Ritchie Jones partner I have to say he should be on a par, skills wise, with Scott Flinders.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:52 pm

Hawklord wrote:

Not wishing to pour oil on the flames but the language used by Turner seems to point to some kind of differences between them. "Not to me at the moment, no" and "I will be having a discussion with Ritchie in due course."
Turner doesn't deny anything emphatically - he could have said 'there's nothing in the rumours whatsoever', an interesting word he used was 'moment'.

If there were any truth in the rumour I'd find it hard to believe that Jones (or at least his agent) did not have something lined up, otherwise he would be risking his career / wages.

On another note, having met Ritchie Jones partner I have to say he should be on a par, skills wise, with Scott Flinders.

he categorically denies that anyone has put in a transfer request, which is what was being claimed as FACT on here.

Poolie_k · **Joined:** Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:37 pm **Posts:** 414

Yea just keep waiting.

hufc01 · **Joined:** Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:11 pm **Posts:** 14

Poolie_k wrote:

Yea just keep waiting.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

The more I think about it, if Turner prefers either Sweeney or Liddle to Jones than he has lost it completely.

And I aint a huge Jones fan!

LeicesterPoolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:48 pm **Posts:** 1278

Re-arrange the words

"lines between the read"

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:13 pm

the lines read between

Hawklord · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:27 pm **Posts:** 3116

Grave wrote:

the lines read between

you're being daft now, it's

between the read lines

Spender · **Posted:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:01 am

I always stop reading when I see the words 'I cannot reveal my source......'

This is mainly because there isn't one apart from a one line peice of cack on BBC606. :roll:

Bamboo Kid · **Posted:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:35 am

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

The more I think about it, if Turner prefers either Sweeney or Liddle to Jones than he has lost it completely.

And I aint a huge Jones fan!

Same here .. he gets stuck in and learned a lot last season. There must be more to this than meets the eye, because if he's been sidelined on ability/effort alone, then Turner is a, well, he's nothing short of a .. well, you know.

yloop · **Posted:** Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:54 pm

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 18,00.html

More than meets the eye?

And a few apologies required to poolie_k if Sky Sports' sources are true (unless he is the source to sky :shock:

)

Poolie_k · **Joined:** Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:37 pm **Posts:** 414

yloop wrote:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_5456218,00.html

More than meets the eye?

And a few apologies required to poolie_k if Sky Sports' sources are true (unless he is the source to sky :shock:

)

No im not the source to sky sports but I do know this story.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

You should have said...

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