Please get rid of Chris Turner and Colin West from my club the club is becoming to comfortable for Turner and his pals and if there is any truth in the rumour that Colin West and Kevin Richardson will be in charge next season i fear the worst.
As a outsider of my club because thats how i feel IOR it looks like a comfy set up at pools with Hodcroft. McCrea. Green. Turner and now West if my facts are right Turner from his last 77 league games as a manager has won 13 he has no idea of tactics or how to change a game with subs his choice of players to bring to the club is poor.
IMO the problem is with Turner Mr Hartlepool United as he see himself.
We need change a strong manager with his own ideas and given a free roll and money to spend without a DOF hovering in the back ground watching his every move.
Act now IOR before the fans vote with there wallets.

we got beat off a quality side ffs and we have a massively unbalanced squad which will be resolved in the summer. Talk about drama queen

I,m not talking about 1 game look at the league position ffs.

right well they can only resolve it in the summer

Turners last 77 league games as a manager and only 13 wins you think he is the answer to sort it..

i didn't say he was the answer, i said the deficencies that we ALL see in the team (Turner included) are going to be resolved in the summer. Both Turner & Hodcroft have stated this very recently (turner several times in the media, Hodcroft in his latest programme notes).

Do i think that Turner will get the job full time?.....YES

Do i think he deserves it?.......Based on what he has done so far then NO. However give him a chance to sign his own players then you never know.

i'm extremely positive that next season will be a lot better than this, if the noises coming from the club turn out to be true. We can only wait and see. More importantly, if Turner does get the job permanently then we should all get behind him & the team and give them our support.

misterb2001 it's fans like you that put us in this fu%king mess look at the facts!!! boll&cks to giving people a chance turner and west can going and shove it both are not the answer and if either of them are in change next season we will be back in div 2

we need a strong manger with his own ideas and not scared of people, but if we did get a manger like that if he did not dance to hodcrofts tune he would be out the door happened twice in the past 5 years


in fact i think we need rid of that muppet hodcroft






walkies

so its MY fault we are in a mess???? That has got to be the bigest deluded peice of rubbish i have ever heard on this message board

This Turner out hatred is getting stupid now, Wilson had a few cock ups everybody called for Wilson to be sacked and he was, the same TEAM yes i said it TEAM that Wilson assembled is still underperforming. Had Turner had James Brown like Wilson did we would be much further up that league than we are. We can all point the finger but as previously stated we were beaten from a quality team yesterday.

This team of misfits had given up a long time before Turner took over yet people seem to forget this and just decide to give him the blame because his managerial record has not been too great since he left. You say he is getting too comfortable?? in what way? Communicating with the fans and bleeding blue and white? since when is a manager not allowed to show passion without being called too comfortable?

Haway man give your head a shake will you? Let Turner bring in his faces and he will get the backing from me and i can assure you the rest of the die hards.

You talk about fans making decisions with there wallets? Well you don't speak for me mate i will be there and again as previously stated the news coming from the club is promising they know they made mistakes and Turner and Hodcroft are out to correct them.

Bloody Drama Queens all over, just remember who assembled this "squad".

Oh dear people losing the plot, No Hodcroft no IOR and blaming fans like "us" for this mess even more

Staying away proves nothing Pal.

misterb you ovisously have no ambition, and are happy we are where we are says it all really

your another numpty, wilson sacked??? he wanted to leave sorted his move out befoe we 'sacked' him he is also stated as saying and i quote 'it's nice to come to a club with ambition' reading between the lines me thinks he don't think we have it which i agree with but no doubt that will be seen as being negitive instead of realistic!!!!

to be honest your continuing to spout absolute total and utter tripe, and it's difficult to take you serious. however i will humour you on this occasion.

I like to think i am realistic with where i expect Pools to be. We are the 2nd worst supported team in this division. Automatically that puts 90% of teams at a financial advantage to us. We struggle to attract quality because of where we are situated in the country. So we face an uphill battle each and every season to attract the quality needed in order to be where we want to be.

The last 2 seasons have been poor to say the least. Our squad is nowhere near good enough and is completely unbalanced. Things are now being put right by the powers that be, Turner has come in, has brought in some quality but has been totally unlucky with injuries.

I fully believe we will make some very good signings in the summer and will be a top half team next year, even if Turner is in charge.

misterb do you fancy a side bet for charity? if turner or west is in charge next season i think it will be another struggle

your last post i have to say was spot on, apart from the last bit about quality signing!!!

and you say you will humour me, my opintion is just as important as every other single poster on here, or is it because i'm not in the bunker elite???







walkies

I'll bet you £10 you don't finish top half Chris?

Your opinion is worth jack to me when your blaming 'fans like me' for Pools being near the relegation zone. A competely laughable statement. However ignoring it and moving back to your other point about quality signings, i'm only going off the noises that are coming from the club

why is that statement laugable?

i blame narrow minded fans, with lack of ambition and the fact that turner is a poor excuse as a league manager could be given the job full time, and your happy about it is just crazy to me

77 games and 13 wins?????? give me a break



what about the bet?? if we finish in the top half with either turner or west in the hot seat i'll give money to a charity of your choice but if either turner or west is sacked or we finish in the bottom half you have to give to my choosen charity








walkies

can someone tell me how to turn the shit filters on, please?

its ok i have done it!

turner shouldnt be in charge next season. we need a new manager to bring it new idea's. the while club needs a change, as someone said in a previous post, its getting very comfy at pools.

If some fans believe Turner and West are the answer to our problems and over the summer they will sort it out thats there opinion.
But from what i,ve seen this season under Turner it does not fill me with joy gates have been falling game upon game and with money being tight and Turner in charge as i say i fear the worst.
If fans are happy with what is happening with results or happy with IOR because we were shiite years ago fair play to them but if the fans have no ambition how can you expect the club to.

And i never posted this thread for a slagging match between pools fans i'm just very concerned.

I don't think Turner is the answer, i don't think many people do. All i'm saying is he has had to contend with several key injuries at key times. And with a more balanced squad with a bit more quality then his record next season if he is in charge would read better than it currently does.

I would rather try and nick Jim Gannon from Stockport if possible, but if Turner gets the job, he will get my full support.

Its all well and good saying replace Turner, but I haven't seen one suggestion as to who we should bring in, and thats without even taking into account whether we could afford such non existant suggested footballing genious who is available!

dave penny

See above, Jim Gannon, did brilliant with Stockport, but their fucked financially, has previously said isn't happy with the situation Stockport are in.

yeah they said they would make sure we never got relegated again.....they have been right so far!!!!

when we got relegated before it was because we had no strikers, Boyd & Porter were injured long term and we brought in young, inexperienced strikers. It wasn't enough....

This season we have brought in Nardiello, Parker, Lange & Guy and even though three of them have had injuries/suspensions and only having a half fit Porter, it has been enough....just.

So lessons are being learned, although slowly by the looks of it. Danny Wilson left us with a hugely unbalanced squad, which will be sorted during the summer. We just have to keep the faith

We're in the position we are because of a number of reasons.

A wafer thin squad from day one that in some games have proved they can match a number of teams in the division. Scunthorpe played off park, Peterborough, defeated at their place, and a couple of other games, we all know which.

But they have been far to inconsistent over the season, yes we know if they were more consistent they would be playing in a higher league, but players at times havent put in 5-6 average games on the belt.

Another factor is the injuries, but I'm sure many other supporters of other teams will be saying the same.

And a major factor in my opinion was the appointment of Turner, short term I had no problem with, but I believe someone else should have been appointed, and although he and which ever players are still here next season will get my support, it can only be for so long if we dont have a better season. I know he has the club at heart, but so do I and many other's does that mean one of us should be made manager.

If he in charge at the start of next season any team that runs out will be HIS TEAM, AND THEREFORE HIS RESPONSIBILITY.

As for manager's who may be tempted.

Gary Brabin doing good job at Cambridge

There's Aidy Boothroyd who still out of a job. And Im sure many other's can name many more.

The problem as I see it is who would come in with Turner back in his position of Director of Sport, and overseeing them.

Yes we need a clear out and that may have to start with Turner being told his services are no longer required in any capacity, and a new man having total control of the footballing side.

I will always respect him for what he did in his first stint at Pools' but as they say you should never go back.

We've been on this downward spiral for the last two seasons. It's fair to say if it wasn't for the first third of last season then we'd have gone down.

Last season the players were inconsistent and looked disinterested at times, especially against the smaller teams.

This season we started off very inconsistent and looked disinterested at times, especially against the smaller teams. Nothing's really changed.

We lost Brown which was a major blow.

We need to do some major restructuring of our squad, we need to sign decent players or we'll struggle next season. We don't have a natural right back, left back or right winger. Not many teams can get away with that.

The next manager already has a great record at Pools:

That's Pauline Quirke

Do enlighten us as to just what would happen if Hodcroft left .......do you still reside in the never-never land where we wave Uncle Ken good-bye and usher in the next financial backer before the smell of Uncle kens exhaust has blown away from Clarence Road ....? it sounds so easy in 'your world' .... try waking up and facing the facts of everday life in the real world where the rest of us have to eke a living. as opposed to the world you inhabit.

What Snowy said.


Oh, fook it, what EVERYONE said.


And by the way, stop calling him UNCLE Ken. He can't have that many sisters and brothers.