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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:14 pm 
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Nah im gonna give it 30minutes or so and calm down.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:19 pm 
Why don't we put a man on the post at free-kicks? I thought one man made the difference today. They took their chances, we didn't. And if Jones had made it 3-1, the game was over. All ifs and buts though. Good performance in general. We'll be ok. Hopefully. :uhoh:


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 Post subject: Re: Today
PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:21 pm 
They had four chances and took three of them Elvis.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:21 pm 
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They had 3 shots on target..........

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 Post subject: Re: Today
PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:22 pm 
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They had 3 shots on target..........


I thought you were going to give it half an hour? rage


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Obafemi Obsession wrote:
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They had 3 shots on target..........


I thought you were going to give it half an hour? rage


Fuck it. Our defence and keeper are a disgrace and Turner also for failing to recognise it.

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And there were THREE defensive errors that lead directly to their 3 goals. Undefendable I'm afraid.



True but that doesnt mean he isnt to blame for being unable to save shots. We may aswell play with a statue in goal. Too quick to go to ground and cant protect his near post.

Oh and unable to get anywhere near a free kick.

When you take over a club you start at the back and build forward. Not sign 7 strikers.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:29 pm 
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Problem today was lack of bottle, we have none at all. 60 minutes we looked fantastic, one goal and we lost the plot. If it was the other way around and they were two up and we pulled one back they would have had the bottle to hold out. Pathetic from us.


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 Post subject: Re: Today
PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:30 pm 
I thought Sweeney's goal was tremendous.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:33 pm 
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martin83 wrote:
Problem today was lack of bottle, we have none at all. 60 minutes we looked fantastic, one goal and we lost the plot. If it was the other way around and they were two up and we pulled one back they would have had the bottle to hold out. Pathetic from us.



Agreed and quite worrying was how little fight we had once they scored.

Both Sweeneys goals were brilliant. Just a shame Jones is no good in front of goal or we would have been out of sight.

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 Post subject: Re: Today
PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:36 pm 
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god damn it, after 60 minutes we were cruising and were looking fantastic for 3 points and probably safety. I wouldn't even say our heads went down. they just hit us with three goals quickly. Both centre backs at fault, i wouldn't specifically blame ALB for any of the goals, however, good goalkeepers manage to pull off top saves each match, whereas ALB doesnt. a Dimi or any other GOOD keeper would have stopped at least one of those goals.

Its difficult to know where it went wrong. However i will say that Turner stated a few weeks ago that we are in the position we are in because we don't score enough goals. well im sorry Mr Turner, you need to look at the other end of the pitch for the problems.

A defeat snatched from the jaws of victory.

I fear for the mental state of our players after a defeat in that manner.

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 Post subject: Re: Today
PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:39 pm 
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we beat ourselves today and no more

ALB was at fault for the first. what keeper lines his wall up in the centre of play and puts the smallest player on the outside of that wall when a right footer is taking the free kick. then to stand behind the wall is criminal in my honest opinion.

then two more defensive errors gifted millwall the game!!!

Turner needs to have a good hard look at the defence and sort summit out cause we are far from safe. i think it will go to the second last game and against leeds who will be lookin to push for the playoffs

we are fcuked


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can't really blame ALB for the freekick....he says where he wants the wall...not which players to stand where...but to put parker (must be no bigger than 5ft 5 on the end was a joke)

2nd goal Nelson was awful turned as if he wasnt there

3rd Collins fucked up....ALb all over for the goal


Why oh why will turner only make 1 sub...bad thing is everyone knows what we need...a big clearout but it will not happen so if we don't get relegated this year then every season from now we will more than likely get worse

im worried enough about going down this season, and next season we will be even further down once joel goes


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chunky1988 wrote:
can't really blame ALB for the freekick....he says where he wants the wall...not which players to stand where...but to put parker (must be no bigger than 5ft 5 on the end was a joke)



totally disagree. thats what training is for. they must practice taking / defending free kicks, so it should be addressed before they go out on the field if x y or z happens this is wwhat we do.

this seems to be th eproblem. we dont seem to understand the basics. i am a keeper and i dont think i would ever stand behind the wall on a free kick there.

if he lines his wall to one side with the tallest player (monkhouse) on the widest outside point and stands to one side, and the ball goes over and finds the net fair point. but he done the same last home game!!! Turner as a keeper must be kicking himself something rotten


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loyal blue wrote:
chunky1988 wrote:
can't really blame ALB for the freekick....he says where he wants the wall...not which players to stand where...but to put parker (must be no bigger than 5ft 5 on the end was a joke)



totally disagree. thats what training is for. they must practice taking / defending free kicks, so it should be addressed before they go out on the field if x y or z happens this is wwhat we do.

this seems to be th eproblem. we dont seem to understand the basics. i am a keeper and i dont think i would ever stand behind the wall on a free kick there.

if he lines his wall to one side with the tallest player (monkhouse) on the widest outside point and stands to one side, and the ball goes over and finds the net fair point. but he done the same last home game!!! Turner as a keeper must be kicking himself something rotten


But Turner thinks he is one of the best keepers in the league rolfl

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I wasn't at the game, I heard it on Pools World & have read the comments on here. The emergency loan transfer window shuts on Thursday - I seriously think we need to bring in some defenders & a keeper. I guess from Turner's comments a keeper is out of the question so at least a couple of defenders.
Unless the conspiricy theory, of going down with less costs & the possibility (by no means a certainty) of doing well in the lower division, bringing in higher gates, is a reality.


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loyal blue wrote:
chunky1988 wrote:
can't really blame ALB for the freekick....he says where he wants the wall...not which players to stand where...but to put parker (must be no bigger than 5ft 5 on the end was a joke)



totally disagree. thats what training is for. they must practice taking / defending free kicks, so it should be addressed before they go out on the field if x y or z happens this is wwhat we do.

this seems to be th eproblem. we dont seem to understand the basics. i am a keeper and i dont think i would ever stand behind the wall on a free kick there.

if he lines his wall to one side with the tallest player (monkhouse) on the widest outside point and stands to one side, and the ball goes over and finds the net fair point. but he done the same last home game!!! Turner as a keeper must be kicking himself something rotten



sorry but you can't tell me you actually think we practice set plays.....we are shit at attacking set plays...and shit at defending them....so quite clearly we do not practice


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or that they do practice, it's just and that they are simply not good enough for professional football

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 Post subject: Re: Today
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:24 pm 
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chunky1988 wrote:
can't really blame ALB for the freekick....he says where he wants the wall...not which players to stand where...but to put parker (must be no bigger than 5ft 5 on the end was a joke)



totally disagree. thats what training is for. they must practice taking / defending free kicks, so it should be addressed before they go out on the field if x y or z happens this is wwhat we do.

this seems to be th eproblem. we dont seem to understand the basics. i am a keeper and i dont think i would ever stand behind the wall on a free kick there.

if he lines his wall to one side with the tallest player (monkhouse) on the widest outside point and stands to one side, and the ball goes over and finds the net fair point. but he done the same last home game!!! Turner as a keeper must be kicking himself something rotten



Just take a look at the pictures on the official site to see who is commited to stopping the ball going in.

http://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/page/Gallery/0,,10326~1599127,00.html

picture mo814 then the next one shows how close it was to the post.

It was a good free kick would of had to be a cracking save if he were to keep it out.


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Unless the conspiricy theory, of going down with less costs & the possibility (by no means a certainty) of doing well in the lower division, bringing in higher gates, is a reality.

IOR aren't in this to save money; they're in it to raise their profile.
Not much of a conspiracy that, is it?

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Unless the conspiricy theory, of going down with less costs & the possibility (by no means a certainty) of doing well in the lower division, bringing in higher gates, is a reality.

IOR aren't in this to save money; they're in it to raise their profile.
Not much of a conspiracy that, is it?


Probably a higher (and definitely a more acceptable) profile doing well in the lower division than struggling as at present. Still, only a conspiricy theory - get Moulder & Scully on the case.
Case against the conspiricy will be proven for me if they sign a couple of defenders before Thursday - they could also let a couple go.


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chunky1988 wrote:
can't really blame ALB for the freekick....he says where he wants the wall...not which players to stand where...but to put parker (must be no bigger than 5ft 5 on the end was a joke)



totally disagree. thats what training is for. they must practice taking / defending free kicks, so it should be addressed before they go out on the field if x y or z happens this is wwhat we do.

this seems to be th eproblem. we dont seem to understand the basics. i am a keeper and i dont think i would ever stand behind the wall on a free kick there.

if he lines his wall to one side with the tallest player (monkhouse) on the widest outside point and stands to one side, and the ball goes over and finds the net fair point. but he done the same last home game!!! Turner as a keeper must be kicking himself something rotten



Just take a look at the pictures on the official site to see who is commited to stopping the ball going in.

http://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/page/Gallery/0,,10326~1599127,00.html

picture mo814 then the next one shows how close it was to the post.

It was a good free kick would of had to be a cracking save if he were to keep it out.



The ball goes over the head of Monkhouse & Sweeney. Parker could have been stood on a step-ladder, and it would have made no difference.

Having a man on the post may well have stopped it, but then you run the risk of playing them them onside should the ball come loose.

I'd have expected ALB to do better for the other goals - but then he was faced by one of the best finishers in the league (and Millwalls history) - and Nelson & Collins mistakes.

When our defence make a mistake, we get punished - when other teams do, we don't punish them.

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just watched the goals on virgin, have to say that a bloke on the post probably wouldnt have stopped the free kick however their second goal ALB dived over the ball like on the weetabix advert utter rubbish

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just watched the goals on virgin, have to say that a bloke on the post probably wouldnt have stopped the free kick however their second goal ALB dived over the ball like on the weetabix advert utter rubbish


The keeper is a complete joke. He reminds me of the young kid in someones avatar on here where he lets soft goals in.

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just watched the goals on virgin, have to say that a bloke on the post probably wouldnt have stopped the free kick however their second goal ALB dived over the ball like on the weetabix advert utter rubbish


The keeper is a complete joke. He reminds me of the young kid in someones avatar on here where he lets soft goals in.


gremmlins avatar kid would have stopped the second goal

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