I.m hearing some thing called nagra 3 is about to stop signals to all dodgy boxes you lose channels first then its gone.
Have you heard anything No6 bus.

Nagravision 3(nagra 3/N3) What is it and what channels are affected by it?

Q: What is nagravision 3 (Nagra3 for short) ?

Nagravision is an encryption method used by both satellite providers.
This locks and secures their channels so that only subscribers who have authorization can view.
Nagravision 1 and nagravision 2 (nagra 1 & nagra 2) have been compromised and exploited, allowing unauthorized access via hardware and or software to view their channels. Naturally when this happens the providers must find a way to lock their signals again, if only as a way to inconvenience you momentarily in hopes you find an easier way. (Just pay them monthly). Remember, if no one paid for the birds in the sky you wouldn't be watching them.its always a very very good idea to pay for their services. If only for a basic subscription.

Q: What about new software?

No one knows this information besides the coders. They will not disclose to much info before hand, but at the moment no Fixes or hack's have been invented.

Q: If it does get cracked, how long will it take?

Again, the same thing applies. We simply do not know.
We do know however, the switchover from Nagra 1 to Nagra 2 was only a matter of a few weeks. But this may not be as easy as last time. Only skilled coding teams will know what it takes. Most of the upper/common coders,or spokesman's for them have already stated that they are working on it. As soon as the files are finished we will have it published free. A rough Guess would be over a year, thats how long Nagra2 took.

Q: What channels have already switched over to Nagra 3, thus resulting in a black screenm or "Bad or Scrambled Channel"

NTL (Virgin) is currently making the switch now, shutting off the lights to Nagra 2 and only using Nagra 3 as their encryption method.
Many channels such as HD and some premium fillum channels have been reported down, it is only a matter of time before is completely dark.
As from February 19th, the switch has started in the UK and Ireland. (Mostly Ireland) and All the Adult channel's as well as a few sport's channel's have been switched over.

Remember,there is a whole sky up there full of channels that in many cases are free and clear,using 0% encryption.that's why your receivers are 100% legal. Of course I only recommend buying and using your fta receivers for their intended use,and any other information as always is for educational use only.

So in short the dark days are ahead and only coders releasing new software for Nagra 3 will turn the lights back on.

We recommend that you start recording some of the shows in case of prolonged blackout.

The N3 switch, what to do & what you should not do...

Except for old timers, most of you have never seen a Nag switch.
There is no need to keep posting (I lost channel x, how do I get it back?)
We all know the providers are switching to N3. You will lose more & more channels until they are all gone. You will get scrambled channels, sound but no video, ect. All that is to be expected during a switch, there is nothing you can do about it except making sure the channel loss is not on your end.

As time goes on, rumors will surface like you have never seen. You will also see many scams.

Example:
N3 was hacked by a monkey in China, he has the hack for sale, we need money..
The monkey opened a private site , only $500.98 to join..
We almost have the fix, we just need to tweak it, but ran out of money..
Your receiver won't work for N3, buy this one...
Keys will work...
My friend's uncle"s sisters, cousin has the fix, all channels wide open...

Keep your old receivers, we don't know what will work & what won't. If you have to have a new unit, buy a $100 one until this is over..

We have experienced people on this forum, that have been through these changes from the F card to N1, N2 & now N3.
We know where to look for bins & info, We have enough experience to know fact from rumors & scams.

We will be very busy, searching for info to keep you up to date. We will not have time to correct useless post by people who have no idea what they posted.

All we can do now is ride it out, & watch for new developments.

More info on N3:
Nagravision is a company of the Kudelski Group that develops conditional access systems for cable and satellite television. The name is also used for their main products, the Nagravision encryption systems.

Three versions of Nagravision are in common use for digital satellite television, known as Nagravision, Nagravision Cardmagedon, and Nagravision Aladin. Nagravision Cardmagedon and Aladin are often confused with each other. Nagravision Cardmagedon is however, a complicated combination of Nagravision Aladin and Mediaguard SECA 2 encryption.

The decryption unit is either integrated into a receiver, available as a conditional access module (CAM), or as one of many encryption schemes supported on a CAM emulator.

Nagravision has been adopted all over the world as a conditional access system, with providers like Virgin Media in the UK and Dream Satellite TV Philippines (on Nagravision 1), Polsat of Poland, Digital+ Spain (now on Nagravision 3), TV Cabo Portugal, Premiere Germany, Digi TV Romania, B** TV and and Dish USA (On Nagravision 2).

The original Nagravision 1 is now almost obsolete after it was originally compromised in 1999, although Dream Satellite maintain relative security by changing keys several times throughout the day, causing great inconvenience to unauthorized viewers.

The Nagravision Aladin providers have been confronting the issue of satellite signal piracy and smart card piracy, since the system was publicly compromised in summer 2005. At first, security of the system was regained, with software revisions, manipulation of the Nagravision encryption algorithm, along with the phasing out of older cards, like the ROM101, ROM102, ROM103 in USA and ROM110,ROM120,ROM130 in Europe, in favor of the newer ROM142/ROM180.

Card hackers have, however, continued to compromise the encryption system, with continued software and key releases being made available to the public. Software emulation of the Nagravision system has been implemented in many Free-To-Air Satellite receivers, allowing unauthorized viewing to those who do not own an official card. As of the summer of 2008, the next version of Nagravision, nagra3, has been compromised in Europe.

Nagra 3 will be the same Nagra 3 here as there. There will be changes in map calls & timers like there is now. If Nagra 3 is cracked in Europe it will be cracked here as well. That does not mean there will not be upgrades to the code. There will always be that.

The real question is , will your current boxes (Starview etc.) & units handle the upgraded code?

The reason we have to wait is because our providers will adjust the ECMS so that it takes longer to hack, and so the coders cant just use the Euro coders work.

Hold Tight, and in the mean time I suggest you watch Free view, or pay for it

Would it be remiss to point out that dodgy boxes are not satellite recievers.

Mri i'm confused enough after reading my last post.

These things seem more hassle than they're worth, I couldn't be arsed personally. If you want Sky that much you should pay for it.

now go back and read the date at the top of the page you copied
scaremongering

Hopefully they stop all dodgy boxes from operating and catch you all.

Your bag.

What you are doing is illegal, I've never stolen anything in my life personally. Do you think think the people who are ultimately making a lot of money from this dodgy box scam are honest good folk?

you're a fool to yourself then!!
Nick what you can from corporate business and governments, I say!!!
A few of us enjoy a "rob" from the motorway service stations!!
We laugh when we eat the sarnies and see the price on there. "Look how much they charge for these things!!!Robbing bastards"!!!!!

nagra3 has been rumoured for the past 1 and half years, wont happen anytime soon, as VM do not have the money to do it. N3 is partially cracked but not fully cracked, apparently it is cracked in portugal but it is unconfirmed!

it will happen eventually but i honestly cant see it coming in for another year or so

fuck'em!!! Charging 50 quid a month for telly!!!!
Sky are missing out as well, which pleases me no end.

I'll set me dog on them

You're right and I thank you all for showing me the error of my ways. I've just took a hammer to my dodgy box and I'll be off to the Police to hand myself in shortly. I'm very contrite.

You have got to ask yourself, would your heroine have used a dodgy box? I think you know the answer. I hope the sentence you get isn't too harsh.

Whatever sentence they give me I will accept with humility. I have broken the law and deserve to recieve punishment up to the full force of the law. I hope I am imprisoned as an example to others who are considering this henious crime.

Sorry must take this more seriously.

After all I am one of the fools that does pay for the services I receive.

Hanging would be too good for you all.

Sorry guys never realised it was old hat i can relax now and count my savings from this dodgy box.

Common thieves the lot of you

I ask again what type of people are making the money out of this scam?

It's still organised crime, whatever way you look at it, hardly heinous I know and Sky probably do deserve it but it's still crime however flipantly you dress it up.

I'm just off to illegally download some music

I would also ban places like www.piratebay.com which allow to illegally download any film/album/software/audio book etc etc

Terrible.

That's awful, I'll have to bookmark it's so awful.

Sickening.

shocking isnt it